Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

2018-01-22 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 06:05:15PM +, Robert Wilton wrote: > > Hence, for me, I see the choice as: > 1) do we publish the existing model now (perhaps also mark the draft as > experimental) followed by an updated draft with the NMDA compatible module? > 2) do we publish both models in a single

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

2018-01-22 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Robert Wilton writes: > On 17/01/2018 16:40, Martin Bjorklund wrote: >> Ladislav Lhotka wrote: > > > Ok. I'm ok with keeping the inline case as it is. However, I think >>> I don't agree. The metadata annotation solves real issues. >> One issue with the annotation is that since the schema

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

2018-01-22 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Kent Watsen writes: > Hi Dean, > > "As Lou mentioned, schema mount can be used with or without YANG library. As > author who uses the schema mount in a draft and in product, don’t want to > hold back the publication. We, IETF, are too slow. Getting data model RFCs > published takes too much ti

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

2018-01-22 Thread Ladislav Lhotka
Juergen Schoenwaelder writes: > On Fri, Jan 19, 2018 at 06:05:15PM +, Robert Wilton wrote: >> >> Hence, for me, I see the choice as: >> 1) do we publish the existing model now (perhaps also mark the draft as >> experimental) followed by an updated draft with the NMDA compatible module? >> 2)

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model-15

2018-01-22 Thread Kent Watsen
Hi Mahesh, Thanks, it doesn't get much more concrete then a pull request ;) Okay, so from a chair/shepherd perspective, can folks please consider this update to -15 as the LC solution to removing the open issue Juergen found in the draft? As a contributor, I don't think the name of the groupi

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

2018-01-22 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
Hi Lada, My primary concern is that the YANG Schema Mount delay will not only hold the NI/LNE but all the models that are dependent on them (e.g., L2VPN and L3VPN). This is for a document that has already finished WG Last Call. Additionally, your estimate for the size of the change and time to

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

2018-01-22 Thread Jeff Tantsura
+1, with Acee Cheers, Jeff On 1/22/18, 08:18, "netmod on behalf of Acee Lindem (acee)" wrote: Hi Lada, My primary concern is that the YANG Schema Mount delay will not only hold the NI/LNE but all the models that are dependent on them (e.g., L2VPN and L3VPN). This is for a docum

Re: [netmod] AD review of draft-ietf-netmod-entity-06

2018-01-22 Thread Benoit Claise
Dear all, Since almost everyone who spoke up in the WG preferred option 2, let's go with that one. Martin, can you please post a new draft version. This document is on the IESG telechat this Thursday. Regards, Benoit Hi Martin, We agree with option 2. Regards, Bart -Original Message--

[netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-entity-08.txt

2018-01-22 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Network Modeling WG of the IETF. Title : A YANG Data Model for Hardware Management Authors : Andy Bierman Martin Bjorklund

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

2018-01-22 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
Acee, the documents that have already finished WG Last Call have a normative reference on schema mount, which has not yet finished WG Last Call as far as I recall. I think the RFC editor does not publish a document with a missing normative reference. I continue to believe that the time difference

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

2018-01-22 Thread Acee Lindem (acee)
It was WG Last Call’ed: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/netmod/csUvs6408En0yY-vapyU3IFcJqQ And it was closed: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/netmod/gbXE4Le1I_3Y5oaNnpjYoZZZ4lw However, it may not have ever completed. Thanks, Acee On 1/22/18, 11:45 AM, "Juergen Schoenwaelder" w

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

2018-01-22 Thread Juergen Schoenwaelder
Thanks. The longer WG last call thread started with Rob's message in which he also asked about alignment with the YANG library update (posted November 2nd). So the document is in a limbo state since November 6th. /js On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 04:58:15PM +, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote: > It was WG

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model-15

2018-01-22 Thread Eliot Lear
Hi Kent and Mahesh and Sonal, Thanks very much for working on this draft.  I have noted one problem that I think needs correcting.  I come prepared with a diff. The current model has {source,dest}-port-or-range hanging off ipv4 or ipv6.  This is a transport parameter and is not appropriate for pr

[netmod] moving forward with schema mount

2018-01-22 Thread Kent Watsen
Thank you all for the important discussion since the completion of WGLC on Nov 6th. Per normal process, drafts typically progress once LC comments are address unless significant faults are found. Post LC comments have been made, which needed consideration, notably the relationship with NMDA a

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model-15

2018-01-22 Thread Mahesh Jethanandani
Eliot, I am not sure about what is a basic function, and what is not. Tomorrow, somebody can argue that TCP SYN flag is a basic function and should be broken out from under the TCP header. I would rather that port definition remain under TCP/UDP with the feature statement ‘match-on-tcp’ and ‘m

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model-15

2018-01-22 Thread Eliot Lear
I'm ok with this as well, Mahesh. Thanks, Eliot On 22.01.18 22:48, Mahesh Jethanandani wrote: > Eliot, > > I am not sure about what is a basic function, and what is not. > Tomorrow, somebody can argue that TCP SYN flag is a basic function and > should be broken out from under the TCP header. >

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model-15

2018-01-22 Thread Alex Campbell
Hi, Good point - adding on to that, I'd like to point out that there are more protocols that use ports besides TCP and UDP, such as SCTP and DCCP. If the port number was not protocol-specific then devices would also have to match SCTP ports, DCCP ports, and other protocol ports, even for proto

[netmod] Closure - : WGLC - draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams

2018-01-22 Thread joel jaeggli
Greetings, This WGLC is concluded. We have consensus to advance the document. The authors should submit an update reflecting the result of the dicussion on the text representation of tree diagrams not being usable by machine parsers. The exchange between Robert Wilton and Martin Bjorkland I thi

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-acl-model-15

2018-01-22 Thread Eliot Lear
On 22.01.18 23:02, Alex Campbell wrote: > > > Hi, > > > Good point - adding on to that, I'd like to point out that there are > more protocols that use ports besides TCP and UDP, such as SCTP and DCCP. > If the port number was not protocol-specific then devices would also > have to match SCTP port

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

2018-01-22 Thread Andy Bierman
Hi, On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder < j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > Thanks. The longer WG last call thread started with Rob's message in > which he also asked about alignment with the YANG library update > (posted November 2nd). So the document is in a lim

Re: [netmod] schema mount and YANG library

2018-01-22 Thread Martin Bjorklund
Andy Bierman wrote: > Hi, > > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2018 at 9:44 AM, Juergen Schoenwaelder < > j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de> wrote: > > > Thanks. The longer WG last call thread started with Rob's message in > > which he also asked about alignment with the YANG library update > > (posted Nov

[netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-yang-tree-diagrams-05.txt

2018-01-22 Thread internet-drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Network Modeling WG of the IETF. Title : YANG Tree Diagrams Authors : Martin Bjorklund Lou Berger Filename: