[netmod] Re: origin "system" in system-config-09

ovided by , and allows a subset of configuration in that flows from yet is not configured or overridden explicitly in to use "system" as its origin value." Best Regards, Qiufang -Original Message- From: Jürgen Schönwälder Sent: Friday, November 8, 2024 10:23 PM To: maqiu

[netmod] Re: origin "system" in system-config-09

in RFC8342. Best Regards, Qiufang -Original Message- From: Jürgen Schönwälder Sent: Friday, November 8, 2024 8:10 PM To: maqiufang (A) Cc: Jason Sterne ; Kent Watsen ; netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] Re: origin "system" in system-config-09 On Fri, Nov 08, 2024 at

[netmod] Re: origin "system" in system-config-09

Hi, Jason, all, I think all system configuration that is non-deletable should be defined in , if things differ from case to case, I have concern that it is hard to enumerate all cases. The draft already states that may change dynamically. Deletable system configuration should be present in ,

[netmod] Re: FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-netmod-system-config-09.txt

, September 30, 2024 8:22 PM To: maqiufang (A) Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-netmod-system-config-09.txt Hi Qiufang, Thank you for this update. I believe this fully addresses the issue raised by Juergen. I appreciate the simplicity and

[netmod] Re: shepherd review for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

01 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET mailto:mohamed.boucad...@orange.com>>; maqiufang (A) mailto:maqiufa...@huawei.com>> Cc : draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407...@ietf.org<mailto:draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407...@ietf.org>; netmod@ietf.org<mailto:netmod@ietf.org> Objet : Re: [netmo

[netmod] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-netmod-system-config-09.txt

: Chong Feng ; Qin Wu ; Qin Wu ; maqiufang (A) Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-netmod-system-config-09.txt A new version of Internet-Draft draft-ietf-netmod-system-config-09.txt has been successfully submitted by Qiufang Ma and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft-ietf-

[netmod] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-immutable-flag-02.txt

Hi, all, This version has made some editorial changes from the previous one. At the moment the authors believe this draft doesn't have any open issues, i.e., ready for WGLC. We would also like the WG to take the time to review this draft, would appreciate any comments and suggestions. Thanks

[netmod] Re: shepherd review for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

Thanks Med, the update looks good to me, could you please go ahead with submission? I will then update and submit my write-up on Datatracker. Best Regards, Qiufang From: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com [mailto:mohamed.boucad...@orange.com] Sent: Friday, September 27, 2024 4:55 PM To: maqiufang (A

[netmod] Re: shepherd review for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

PM To: maqiufang (A) ; draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407...@ietf.org Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: RE: shepherd review for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis Hi Qiufang, Thank you for the careful review. The diff to track the changes can be found here: Diff: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis.txt - draft-ietf-netmod

[netmod] shepherd review for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

Hi, authors, WG, As part of my shepherd write-up for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis, I've reviewed the latest version of the draft and have got some editorial comments (most of which are nits), hopefully they could be fixed before progressing the document. The Idnits

[netmod] Re: comments on system-config-08 draft

Hi, Andy, Changing the running config so it is split into 2 datastores makes operations more complicated. It doesn't actually work since YANG is hierarchical and has cross-references. IMO the only improvement needed is to add metadata to so a client can better understand the system config and

[netmod] Re: 2nd WGLC on system-config-08

Hi, Kent, Jan, all, Sorry for being late in replying, thanks Jan and Jürgen for the review, I will see how to address the comments once we reach agreement on this “copy or merge” issue… please find more reply inline… From: Kent Watsen [mailto:kent+i...@watsen.net] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 20

[netmod] Re: comments on system-config-08 draft

Hi, Andy, Thanks for the comments, please see reply inline… From: Andy Bierman [mailto:a...@yumaworks.com] Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2024 12:34 AM To: NetMod WG Subject: [netmod] comments on system-config-08 draft Hi, I do not think this draft is ready. 1) Behavior changes to conventional d

[netmod] Re: Yang Scalability

Hi, Deepak, Thanks a lot for bring this to IETF, I’d like to comment on the #3 requirement you mentioned below, regarding the use of templates, I believe this is related to your slides from #11 to #14. First, I think the default and mandatory statements defined in the YANG modules should follo

[netmod] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-immutable-flag-01.txt

Hi, all, -01 is available now, this version incorporates inputs received at the interim (minutes available at : https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/minutes-interim-2024-netmod-02-202402061400/): · State that “Servers may suppress the annotation if it is inherited from its parent node or

[netmod] Re: Yangdoctors last call review of draft-ietf-netmod-system-config-06

...@orange.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2024 3:30 PM To: maqiufang (A) ; Michal Vaško ; yang-doct...@ietf.org Cc: draft-ietf-netmod-system-config@ietf.org; last-c...@ietf.org; netmod@ietf.org Subject: RE: [netmod] Yangdoctors last call review of draft-ietf-netmod-system-config-06 Hi Qiufang

[netmod] Re: Yangdoctors last call review of draft-ietf-netmod-system-config-06

Hi, Med and Michal, Thanks for your review, the authors have submitted a new version (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netmod-system-config-07) to resolve the nits you raised below, together with some other updates received from the WG. Please review the diff (https://author-

[netmod] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-system-config-06.txt

Lindblad (jlindbla) [mailto:jlindbla=40cisco@dmarc.ietf.org] Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2024 12:14 AM To: maqiufang (A) mailto:maqiufa...@huawei.com>>; netmod@ietf.org<mailto:netmod@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [netmod] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-system-config-06.txt Qiufang, WG, T

[netmod] Re: copy-minimum vs. copy-all of "resolve-system" parameter// I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-system-config-06.txt

Hi, all, There is a comment received during the WGLC of this draft, which is about the copy scope of "resolve-system" parameter, i.e., should the server only auto-copy the minimum to make configuration valid or the entire contents of a referenced list entry? Like any value provided by the serv

[netmod] Re: I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-system-config-06.txt

Hi, all -06 tries to address comments received during WGLC, thanks a lot to Jan, Rob and Jason for your valuable inputs. Major updates are following: 1. remove the definition of inactive-until-referenced system config, -06 only defines two kinds of system config now: immediately-present vs. co

[netmod] Re: WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-acl-extensions-06

Thank you Med for taking care of my comments, the update looks good to me. Best Regards, Qiufang -Original Message- From: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com [mailto:mohamed.boucad...@orange.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2024 2:38 AM To: maqiufang (A) ; Lou Berger Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject

[netmod] Re: WGLC on system-config-05

Hi, Jason, Thanks for getting back to me. Please also find my response below inline... -Original Message- From: Jason Sterne (Nokia) [mailto:jason.ste...@nokia.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2024 2:57 AM To: maqiufang (A) ; Rob Wilton (rwilton) ; kent+i...@watsen.net; NETMOD Group

[netmod] Re: WGLC on system-config-05

Hi, Jason, Thanks for getting back to me. Please see my reply inline... I think there are a couple of important fundamental issues raised below: Only auto-copy things missing to make valid vs auto-copy the entire contents of a referenced list entry from system->running. [Qiufang] Please see mo

[netmod] Re: WGLC on system-config-05

[resending due to mailarchive issues] From: maqiufang (A) Sent: Saturday, May 11, 2024 3:38 PM To: Jan Lindblad (jlindbla) mailto:jlind...@cisco.com>>; Jason Sterne mailto:jason.ste...@nokia.com>> Cc: Qin Wu mailto:bill...@huawei.com>>; chong feng mailto:fengchongl...@gmail.c

Re: [netmod] WG Last Call: draft-ietf-netmod-acl-extensions-06

Hi, Lou, all, I've reviewed this document and believe it is ready for publication. Some comments/nits that should be fixed before publication: - Sec.1.1 Why are the IANA-Maintained Modules provided in A.2, B.2 and C.2 being asked to be removed from the final RFC? Should the editor then also re

Re: [netmod] I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-schedule-yang-01.txt

Hi, all, This version resolves comments from Dhruv during the WG adoption call. It also reflects some comments and suggestions we received from the authors of draft-ietf-tvr-schedule-yang at IETF 119: some recurrence with UTC time format related groupings are defined separately without the time

Re: [netmod] Adoption call for draft-ma-opsawg-schedule-yang-04

Hi, Dhruv, Thanks a lot for your comments, the authors have submitted a new version to address them: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ietf-netmod-schedule-yang-01. Please also see my reply inline… From: netmo

Re: [netmod] Adoption call for draft-ma-opsawg-schedule-yang-04

Hi, all, As a co-author, I support the adoption of this work. It is separated from another WG item in OPSAWG because of its wide applicability. The groupings defined in this draft now has a couple of consumers, the authors believe different work related to scheduling contexts can benefit from s

Re: [netmod] IPR Call on draft-ietf-netmod-system-config-05

Hi, Kent, No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Best Regards, Qiufang From: Kent Watsen [mailto:kent+i...@watsen.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2024 9:31 AM To: maqiufang (A) ; Qin Wu ; Chongfeng Xie Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: IPR Call on draft-ietf-netmod-system-conf

Re: [netmod] IPR Call on draft-ma-opsawg-schedule-yang-04

Hi, Kent, No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Best Regards, Qiufang From: Kent Watsen [mailto:kent+i...@watsen.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2024 7:45 AM To: maqiufang (A) ; Qin Wu ; Mohamed Boucadair ; Daniel King Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: IPR Call on draft-ma-o

Re: [netmod] Draft IETF 119 NETMOD Agenda posted

Hi, Jan, all It seems that we need to revisit what we have agreed at the interim. Please see my reply below inline. From: Jan Lindblad (jlindbla) [mailto:jlind...@cisco.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2024 1:03 AM To: Kent Watsen Cc: maqiufang (A) ; netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] Draft

Re: [netmod] Draft IETF 119 NETMOD Agenda posted

Hi, chairs, For system-config draft (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-netmod-system-config/), the authors have submitted a new version to reflect the outcome of the interim, the main updates are following: 1. Address the "origin" issue a. The current document explicitly

Re: [netmod] Adoption call for draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-09

Thanks chairs. We will upload the renamed draft when the submission window is reopened. Thanks all for your support and valuable comments, the authors will address them in a new version (as well as comments received from the interim discussion). Best Regards, Qiufang //co-author From: netmod [

Re: [netmod] Next steps for draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

Hi, Med, Kent, all 2) In the Security Considerations section, the template should be amended to have the following paragraph: Please be aware that this YANG module uses groupings from other YANG modules that define nodes that may be considered sensitive or vulnerable

Re: [netmod] Adoption call for draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-09

Hi, Chair, all As a co-author, I support the adoption of this work. This proposal is complementary to the system-config work, the discussion (which the authors will incorporate in a future version) at the interim allows it to be better accomplished. I believe this document has great maturity n

[netmod] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-system-config-05.txt

Hi, all This version reflects the outcome of the interim we had last month: 1. the "origin" issue * The current document explicitly states that system configuration copied from into have its origin value being reported as "intended" and update the examples accordingly *

Re: [netmod] IPR poll for draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-09

Hi, chairs, all No, I am not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Best Regards, Qiufang 发件人：Kent Watsen mailto:kent+i...@watsen.net>> 收件人：maqiufang (A) mailto:maqiufa...@huawei.com>>;Qin Wu mailto:bill...@huawei.com>>;Balazs Lengyel mailto:balazs.leng...@ericsso

[netmod] MUST offline-validation of alone be required? possible solution and further discussion

Hi, all I want to bring up a key issue that has been discussed before but hasn't really been agreed upon: MUST offline-validation of alone be required? The question behind this issue is about: must referenced system config always be copied into to satisfy referential integrity constraints, or

Re: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-08

Hi, Jürgen Thanks a lot for the thorough review, please see my reply inline... -Original Message- From: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jürgen Sch?nw?lder Sent: Saturday, September 9, 2023 5:09 AM To: Jan Lindblad Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] Adoption po

Re: [netmod] Regarding IPR on draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-08

Hi, chair, all No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Best Regards, Qiufang From: Kent Watsen [mailto:kent+i...@watsen.net] Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2023 9:47 PM To: maqiufang (A) ; Qin Wu ; Balazs Lengyel ; Hongwei Li Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: Regarding IPR on dra

Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-07.txt

Hi, Kent Cherry picking a few items below. [Rob Wilton (rwilton)] I think that the document is unclear about how it interplays with the system datastore, e.g., I find very few references to the system datastore, so I think that it would be helpful for that to be clarified. [Qiufang] Sure. Tha

[netmod] FW: I-D Action: draft-ietf-netmod-system-config-02.txt

Hi, all v-02 is available now, most of the update reflects comments raised by Jason (thank you Jason!), as well as some recent discussion happened on the list. A diff compared from the previous version is available at: https://author-tools.ietf.org/iddiff?url2=draft-ietf-netmod-system-config-

Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-07.txt

Hi, Rob Thanks for getting back to me, please also see inline. From: Rob Wilton (rwilton) mailto:rwil...@cisco.com>> Sent: Saturday, July 1, 2023 1:09 AM To: maqiufang (A) mailto:maqiufa...@huawei.com>> Cc: Kent Watsen mailto:kent+i...@watsen.net>>; Jan Lindblad (jlin

Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-07.txt

Hi, Jan Thanks for supporting this work! Please see inline. From: Jan Lindblad (jlindbla) [mailto:jlindbla=40cisco@dmarc.ietf.org] Sent: Friday, June 2, 2023 10:23 PM To: Kent Watsen mailto:kent+i...@watsen.net>>; maqiufang (A) mailto:maqiufa...@huawei.com>> Cc: Jürgen

Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-07.txt

...@watsen.net>>; Jan Lindblad (jlindbla) mailto:jlind...@cisco.com>>; Jürgen Schönwälder mailto:jschoenwaelder@constructor.university>>; Andy Bierman mailto:a...@yumaworks.com>> Cc: maqiufang (A) mailto:maqiufa...@huawei.com>>; netmod@ietf.org<mailto:netmod@ietf.org&g

Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-07.txt

choenwaelder@constructor.university>>; Rob Wilton (rwilton) mailto:rwil...@cisco.com>>; maqiufang (A) mailto:maqiufa...@huawei.com>>; netmod@ietf.org<mailto:netmod@ietf.org> Subject: Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-07.txt On Thu

[netmod] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-07.txt

ource of truth. Thanks a lot. Best Regards, Qiufang -Original Message- From: internet-dra...@ietf.org [mailto:internet-dra...@ietf.org] Sent: Thursday, May 25, 2023 4:52 PM To: Balazs Lengyel ; Hongwei Li ; Qin Wu ; Qin Wu ; maqiufang (A) Subject: New Version Notification for draf

Re: [netmod] Comments on draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-06

Hi, Kent I support ensuring XC/Y remains transactional, such that a client can always move from valid config-A to valid config-B in a single update. I also support requiring a "with-immutable" flag in client-requests in order for the "immutable" annotations to be returned (like "with-defaults"

Re: [netmod] Comments on draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-06

en a "anydata" or "anyxml" node is immutable - the node, and all of its recursive descendants, if any, is/are "immutable=true", unless toggled back to "immutable=false" by a descendent node. Agree, I see it similar to a “c

Re: [netmod] J. Sterne comments on draft-ietf-netmod-system-config-00

Hi, Jason Apologies for replying so late, there are a lot to chew on;-) And many thanks for the detailed comments, all good points. I try to respond here and also welcome others to join the discussion if there are any other different points of view. Please see my reply inline. From: netmod [mai

Re: [netmod] Comments on draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-06

Hi, Jan Thank you so much for the follow-up, please see my reply inline. From: Jan Lindblad (jlindbla) [mailto:jlindbla=40cisco@dmarc.ietf.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 10:05 PM To: maqiufang (A) mailto:maqiufa...@huawei.com>> Cc: Kent Watsen mailto:kent+i...@watsen.net>>

Re: [netmod] Comments on draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-06

Hi, Kent, Rob, Jan Apologies for reacting to this thread late. I think that regarding the isInvariant concept in the liaison, 3GPP is asking to model the object which cannot be modified once created. While it's just a natural workaround for the clients to first delete it and then recreate with

Re: [netmod] system configuration/datastore and the keystore/truststore drafts

Hi, Jan In the second case you've described below, " servers accept references to pieces of hardware that are currently missing, and just mark them as operationally down." Is this missing hardware related configuration also not present in ? Would a server treat this configuration as invalid if

Re: [netmod] system configuration/datastore and the keystore/truststore drafts

Hi, Rob It seems that we are getting back to the discussion about whether must always be valid (https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/netmod/t6qgW7c-RiaioejjYWWb9jbOpR0/). Comments from the WG on this issue are quite split. I fully agree things would become much easier if we don't always ask

Re: [netmod] WG adoption call: draft-dbb-netmod-acl-03

Hi, all I've read this draft and support the adoption of it. Just mention that we are also working on the ACL extension targeting the enterprise network scenario (https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ma-opsawg-ucl-acl/), will see how to coordinate with this work. Nits: · Sec. 3

Re: [netmod] Balazs comments on draft-ietf-netmod-system-config-00

Hi, Balazs, Thanks for the comments, much appreciated! I am trying to prepare a new version resolving your comments, please also see my reply below. From: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Balázs Lengyel Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 11:01 PM To: netmod@ietf.org

[netmod] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-04.txt

-Original Message- From: internet-dra...@ietf.org [mailto:internet-dra...@ietf.org] Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2022 4:19 PM To: Balazs Lengyel ; Hongwei Li ; Qin Wu ; Qin Wu ; maqiufang (A) Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-04.txt A new version of I-D, draft

[netmod] should the immutable-flag solution be an update to NACM?

Hi, all The current immutable-flag draft (https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-03.txt) defines both a YANG extension and a metadata annotation to indicate the immutability of data nodes and instances, respectively. An alternative approach discussed on the list is to u

Re: [netmod] IPR Poll on draft-ietf-netmod-with-system

No, I'm not aware of any IPR that applies to this draft. Best Regards, Qiufang -Original Message- From: Kent Watsen [mailto:kent+i...@watsen.net] Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2022 9:24 AM To: maqiufang (A) ; Qin Wu ; Fengchong (frank) ; Kent Watsen ; Jan Lindblad (jlindbla) ; Chon

[netmod] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-03.txt

e I-D, any comments and suggestions are much appreciated. Best Regards, Qiufang -Original Message- From: internet-dra...@ietf.org [mailto:internet-dra...@ietf.org] Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2022 5:45 PM To: Balazs Lengyel ; Hongwei Li ; Qin Wu ; Qin Wu ; maqiufang (A) Subject: N

[netmod] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ma-netmod-with-system-04.txt

ent: Tuesday, August 9, 2022 7:25 PM To: Fengchong (frank) ; Fengchong (frank) ; Jan Lindblad ; Kent Watsen ; Qin Wu ; Qin Wu ; maqiufang (A) Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ma-netmod-with-system-04.txt A new version of I-D, draft-ma-netmod-with-system-04.txt has been successfu

Re: [netmod] Balazs Review of draft-ma-netmod-with-system-02

Hi, all From: Kent Watsen [mailto:kent+i...@watsen.net] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2022 8:18 AM To: maqiufang (A) Cc: Balázs Lengyel ; Jan Lindblad ; netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] Balazs Review of draft-ma-netmod-with-system-02 JANL: I could accept watering down MUST NOT to SHOULD NOT

Re: [netmod] WGLC on draft-ietf-netmod-node-tags-06

Hi, Juergen, Qin How about defining a more general mechanism to cover your proposal: module: ietf-data-node-tags augment /tags:module-tags/tags:module: +--rw data-object-tags +--rw data-node* [ni-id] +--rw ni-id nacm:node-instance-identifier +--rw tag-lis

[netmod] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ma-netmod-with-system-03.txt

ble system configuration; Best Regards, Qiufang -Original Message- From: internet-dra...@ietf.org [mailto:internet-dra...@ietf.org] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2022 10:40 AM To: Fengchong (frank) ; Fengchong (frank) ; Jan Lindblad ; Kent Watsen ; Qin Wu ; Qin Wu ; maqiufang (A) Subject: N

Re: [netmod] Balazs Review of draft-ma-netmod-with-system-02

Hi, Balazs, Please see my reply inline. From: Balázs Lengyel [mailto:balazs.leng...@ericsson.com] Sent: Friday, April 1, 2022 1:22 AM To: maqiufang (A) ; Jan Lindblad Cc: 'netmod@ietf.org' Subject: RE: [netmod] Balazs Review of draft-ma-netmod-with-system-02 Hello Qiufang, While it i

Re: [netmod] Balazs Review of draft-ma-netmod-with-system-02

Hi, Balazs, Thanks for your thorough review and valuable comments! To be brief, I will incorporate some of them to the update, but I think there are still a couple of comments that need further discussion, like: · Terminology to differentiate between the same(-path) data nodes in differe

Re: [netmod] Alternative approach to draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-00

Hi, Andy, Balazs, I can see your points in some of the use cases. But as Kent mentioned, the motivation of this work is that we have some system-defined instance which are read-only to clients. And there may be some cases where a list/leaf-list data node may exist in multiple instances with diff

Re: [netmod] WGLC on draft-ietf-netmod-rfc6991-bis-11

Hi, all I have read the document and support the publication of this work. I have only one comment: It seems that Table 2 doesn’t list all the types defined in “ietf-inet-types” YANG module, e.g., protocol-number, ip-address-link-local, ip-address-and-prefix… Should this be fixed? Best Regards,

[netmod] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ma-netmod-with-system-01.txt

the draft, comments and suggestions are welcome! Best Regards, Qiufang -Original Message- From: internet-dra...@ietf.org [mailto:internet-dra...@ietf.org] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2022 6:43 PM To: Fengchong (frank) ; Fengchong (frank) ; Jan Lindblad ; Qin Wu ; Qin Wu ; maqiufang (A)

[netmod] FW: New Version Notification for draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-00.txt

Hongwei Li ; Qin Wu ; Qin Wu ; maqiufang (A) Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-00.txt A new version of I-D, draft-ma-netmod-immutable-flag-00.txt has been successfully submitted by Qiufang Ma and posted to the IETF repository. Name: draft

Re: [netmod] system DS polluting intended and operational

Hi, Jason, Please see my reply inline. -Original Message- From: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa) Sent: Monday, January 10, 2022 11:14 PM To: Juergen Schoenwaelder Cc: maqiufang (A) ; netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] system DS

Re: [netmod] Must offline-validation of alone be valid?

Hi, Andy, all From: Andy Bierman [mailto:a...@yumaworks.com] Sent: Saturday, December 18, 2021 2:06 AM To: Kent Watsen Cc: maqiufang (A) ; netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] Must offline-validation of alone be valid? On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 7:11 AM Kent Watsen mailto:kent%2bi

Re: [netmod] Must offline-validation of alone be valid?

the other remote clients and bring them surprise and inconvenience. Best Regards, Qiufang Ma From: Andy Bierman [mailto:a...@yumaworks.com] Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:50 AM To: Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa) Cc: Juergen Schoenwaelder ; Jan Lindblad ; Kent Watsen ; maqiufang (A) ; netmo

Re: [netmod] "immutable" flag

Hi, Jason, Thanks for your comments, please see my reply inline. From: Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa) [mailto:jason.ste...@nokia.com] Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:42 AM To: maqiufang (A) ; netmod@ietf.org Subject: RE: [netmod] "immutable" flag Hi Qiufang, I think there are

Re: [netmod] Should the "with-origin" parameter be supported for ?

Hi, Jason Thanks for kicking off some discussion around this question. Please see my reply inline. From: Sterne, Jason (Nokia - CA/Ottawa) [mailto:jason.ste...@nokia.com] Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2021 6:51 AM To: maqiufang (A) ; netmod@ietf.org Subject: RE: [netmod] Should the "with-o

Re: [netmod] Should the origin="system" be required for system configurations copied/pasted into ?

gt; > > // As a contributor > > > > > > > -Original Message- > > > From: netmod On Behalf Of Martin > > > Björklund > > > Sent: 24 November 2021 10:44 > > > To: j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de > > >

Re: [netmod] Must offline-validation of alone be valid?

set by the clients)”, or it is a compromise that had to be made. Best Regards, Qiufang Ma From: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jan Lindblad Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2021 1:57 AM To: Belotti, Sergio (Nokia - IT/Vimercate) mailto:sergio.belo...@nokia.com>> Cc: maqiuf

Re: [netmod] Should the origin="system" be required for system configurations copied/pasted into ?

Hi, Martin, Please see my reply inline. -Original Message- From: Martin Björklund [mailto:mbj+i...@4668.se] Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2021 3:39 PM To: maqiufang (A) Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] Should the origin="system" be required for system configurati

[netmod] Should the origin="system" be required for system configurations copied/pasted into ?

Hi, all There is still another issue which is about origin metadata annotation: should the origin="system" be required for system configurations copied/pasted into ? Currently any system configuration explicitly declared in in order to configure its descendant nodes or maintain offline-valid

[netmod] "immutable" flag

Hi, all There are some system configuration which may not be modifiable for clients(e.g., interface "name" and "type"). Should we define an "immutable" flag to indicate to the clients which system configuration is read-only or which is not? The server will return an error if the clients attemp

[netmod] Should the "with-origin" parameter be supported for ?

Hi, all In the "system-defined configuration(draft-ma-netmod-with-system)" work, an optional datastore named "system" is introduced to hold non-deletable system configurations. We define that if a server implements , MUST be merged into . So there is the cases that the clients can fetch and

[netmod] Must offline-validation of alone be valid?

Hi, all Regarding the presentation of "system-defined configuration(draft-ma-netmod-with-system)" in IETF 112, I would like to initiate a separate thread to discuss "MUST offline-validation of alone be valid". This is unknown if any RFC requires offline validation of . Then the choices become:

Re: [netmod] New Version Notification for draft-ma-netmod-with-system-00.txt

Qiufang Ma(On behalf of authors) -Original Message- From: internet-dra...@ietf.org [mailto:internet-dra...@ietf.org] Sent: Monday, October 25, 2021 7:45 PM To: Fengchong (frank) ; Fengchong (frank) ; Qin Wu ; Qin Wu ; maqiufang (A) Subject: New Version Notification for draft-ma-netmod-w

Re: [netmod] virtual interim prep

Hi, chairs, Thanks for the proposal. I agree that use-case analysis and problem statement are needed before we discuss any solution details. We will work on this firstly and reflect it on draft-ma-netmod-with-system-00. Thank you! Best Regards, Qiufang Ma -Original Message- From: Ken

Re: [netmod] [netconf] Question on Subtree Filtering Usage Example

Hi, Thanks for your reply. Cross posting to NETCONF list. Best Regards, Qiufang Ma -Original Message- From: Jürgen Schönwälder [mailto:j.schoenwael...@jacobs-university.de] Sent: Friday, August 6, 2021 6:35 PM To: maqiufang (A) Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] Question on

[netmod] Question on Subtree Filtering Usage Example

Hi, all: In RFC6241 section 6.4(https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6241#section-6.4), several single subtree filtering examples are given. I am wondering whether we can select multiple elements within the Subtree. Note that we also assume "users" parent element is the container with pres

Re: [netmod] system configuration sync mechanism

Hi, Andy, Apologize for my chiming in. Please see my reply inline. From: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Andy Bierman Sent: Wednesday, August 4, 2021 1:11 AM To: Fengchong (frank) Cc: Balázs Lengyel ; netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] 答复: system configuration sync mecha

Re: [netmod] Comments on draft-ma-netconf-with-system-02

Hi, Balázs, Thanks for the comments, please see my reply inline. P.S. I notice that some of the issues is related to auto-populate operation from into (e.g., will not delete system configurations which has already been populated into , allow a delete operation and reload automatically). Since t

Re: [netmod] system configuration sync mechanism

ences it. But any client able to do this already knows how merges into and is accounting for it. Thoughts? Kent On Jul 16, 2021, at 6:24 AM, maqiufang (A) mailto:maqiufa...@huawei.com>> wrote: Hi, Kent, Please see my reply inline. From: Kent Watsen [mailto:kent+i...@watsen.net] S

Re: [netmod] system configuration sync mechanism

Hi, Kent, Please see my reply inline. From: Kent Watsen [mailto:kent+i...@watsen.net] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2021 2:55 AM To: maqiufang (A) Cc: netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: [netmod] system configuration sync mechanism Hi Qiufang, [snip] The question is if the server implementation

Re: [netmod] system configuration sync mechanism

Hi , Kent: Apologies for the delay. I missed your reply and never saw it in my inbox(bugs?) :(. Thanks for the detailed examples and explanation, and now I have a better understanding about your proposal. Please see my reply inline. [likewise snip...] For the second category, imagine containi

Re: [netmod] system configuration sync mechanism

Hi, Kent: From: Kent Watsen [mailto:kent+i...@watsen.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2021 6:51 AM To: maqiufang (A) Cc: netc...@ietf.org; netmod@ietf.org Subject: Re: system configuration sync mechanism [CC-ing NETMOD, as I think this discussion belongs on that list...please consider removing

[netmod] 答复: Adoption poll for draft-tao-netmod-yang-node-tags-06

Hi, all Yes, I support the adoption. Qiufang Ma 发件人: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Kent Watsen 发送时间: 2020年12月8日 6:33 收件人: netmod@ietf.org 主题: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-tao-netmod-yang-node-tags-06 This email begins a 2-week adoption poll for: https://tools.ietf.

[netmod] 答复: Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10

Hi, all Support as a contributor. Best Regards, Qiufang Ma -邮件原件- 发件人: netmod [mailto:netmod-boun...@ietf.org] 代表 Lou Berger 发送时间: 2020年12月8日 6:28 收件人: NETMOD Group 抄送: NetMod WG Chairs 主题: [netmod] Adoption poll for draft-wwx-netmod-event-yang-10 This email begins a 2-week adoption p