Re: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-04-15 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi all, These proposed changes are now implemented in the public version. Cheers, Med De : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET Envoyé : mercredi 20 mars 2024 23:13 À : netmod@ietf.org Objet : RE: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis Hi all, After reviewing

Re: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-03-20 Thread mohamed . boucadair
:52 À : Christian Hopps Cc : Jürgen Schönwälder ; netmod@ietf.org Objet : Re: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 2:41 AM Christian Hopps mailto:cho...@chopps.org>> wrote: > On Mar 15, 2024, at 19:13, Per

Re: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-03-16 Thread Andy Bierman
On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at 2:41 AM Christian Hopps wrote: > > > > On Mar 15, 2024, at 19:13, Per Andersson (perander) > wrote: > > > > Christian Hopps on Friday, March 15, 2024 20:10: > >>> On Mar 15, 2024, at 13:26, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote: > >>> > >>> Re-, > >>> I’m not sure to agree

Re: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-03-16 Thread Christian Hopps
> On Mar 15, 2024, at 19:13, Per Andersson (perander) > wrote: > > Christian Hopps on Friday, March 15, 2024 20:10: >>> On Mar 15, 2024, at 13:26, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote: >>> >>> Re-, >>> I’m not sure to agree with your last statement, Andy. >>> The reality is that the OLD reco

Re: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-03-15 Thread Per Andersson (perander)
Christian Hopps on Friday, March 15, 2024 20:10: >> On Mar 15, 2024, at 13:26, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote: >> >> Re-, >> I’m not sure to agree with your last statement, Andy. >> The reality is that the OLD reco is inducing many cycles and waste of time >> for no obvious technical

Re: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-03-15 Thread Christian Hopps
> Cheers, > Med > De : Andy Bierman > Envoyé : vendredi 15 mars 2024 18:01 > À : Jürgen Schönwälder ; Andy Bierman > ; BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET > ; netmod@ietf.org > Objet : Re: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: > draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bi

Re: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-03-15 Thread mohamed . boucadair
: Re: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 9:42 AM Jürgen Schönwälder mailto:jschoenwaelder@constructor.university>> wrote: Yes, for long XPath expressions, one likes to have short prefixes, the shorter the better. In

Re: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-03-15 Thread Andy Bierman
On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 9:42 AM Jürgen Schönwälder wrote: > Yes, for long XPath expressions, one likes to have short prefixes, the > shorter the better. In other contexts, such as type definitions, one > may want to use longer prefixes providing more context. It seems you > can't have both at

Re: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-03-15 Thread Jürgen Schönwälder
Yes, for long XPath expressions, one likes to have short prefixes, the shorter the better. In other contexts, such as type definitions, one may want to use longer prefixes providing more context. It seems you can't have both at the same time. Given this inherent conflict, I am not sure that

Re: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-03-15 Thread Jan Lindblad (jlindbla)
Andy, very good summary! /jan On 15 Mar 2024, at 16:22, Andy Bierman wrote: On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 7:24 AM Jürgen Schönwälder mailto:jschoenwaelder@constructor.university>> wrote: I wonder which problem we are solving with adding more little rules. Perhaps a future version of YANG will do

Re: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-03-15 Thread mohamed . boucadair
 : Re: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: draft- > ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis > > > Jürgen Schönwälder writes: > > > I wonder which problem we are solving with adding more little rules. > > Perhaps a future version of YANG will do away with prefixes but &

Re: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-03-15 Thread Christian Hopps
Jürgen Schönwälder writes: I wonder which problem we are solving with adding more little rules. Perhaps a future version of YANG will do away with prefixes but until this happens, I do not think we need to add more rules about how to choose prefixes. The original intend was that they are

Re: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-03-15 Thread Andy Bierman
On Fri, Mar 15, 2024 at 7:24 AM Jürgen Schönwälder wrote: > I wonder which problem we are solving with adding more little rules. > Perhaps a future version of YANG will do away with prefixes but until > this happens, I do not think we need to add more rules about how to > choose prefixes. The

Re: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-03-15 Thread mohamed . boucadair
are prefixed with 'iana-". Cheers, Med > -Message d'origine- > De : Jürgen Schönwälder > Envoyé : vendredi 15 mars 2024 15:24 > À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET > Cc : netmod@ietf.org > Objet : Re: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: draft- > iet

Re: [netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-03-15 Thread Jürgen Schönwälder
I wonder which problem we are solving with adding more little rules. Perhaps a future version of YANG will do away with prefixes but until this happens, I do not think we need to add more rules about how to choose prefixes. The original intend was that they are short to keep YANG snippets concise

[netmod] On prefixes again RE: IETF#119 I-D Status: draft-ietf-netmod-rfc8407bis

2024-03-15 Thread mohamed . boucadair
Hi Andy, (changing the subject to ease tracking this) The thread I was referring is: https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/netmod/6VkSrroaxwXHSI19Jj0j-tbFCjA/ I do personally think that it is a good guidance to prefix IETF modules with “ietf-“ and IANA-maintained ones with “iana-‘. This is