Re: Text box edit

In article , Peter Young wrote: > On 27 Oct 2012 Dave Symes wrote: > > In article <52e55560eerh.li...@phone.coop>, Russell > > Hafter - Lists wrote: > > [Snippy] > >> The following failed: RBS + NatWest (UK) (unsupported > >> browser), Cumberla

Re: Text box edit

In article , Peter Young wrote: > On 27 Oct 2012 Dave Symes wrote: > > In article <52e55560eerh.li...@phone.coop>, Russell > > Hafter - Lists wrote: > > [Snippy] > >> The following failed: RBS + NatWest (UK) (unsupported > >> browser), Cumberla

Re: Text box edit

In article <60d73fe552.jess@itworkshop.invalid>, Jess Hampshire wrote: > In message <52e512dff0d...@triffid.co.uk> Dave Symes >wrote: > > FWIW. I still use NetSurf on RO for a few bits and > > bobs, but recently the final nails started to fall when > > LTSB reworked their online bank

Re: Nervous tick

In article , Martin Bazley wrote: > Everyone seeing the flickering is using a real StrongARM > RiscPC or similar. Everyone not seeing the flickering is > using an Iyonix or better, or StrongARM VRPC (which has > an option to go much faster than a real StrongARM). Well, I tried the link and noti

Re: Error converting PNG

In article <5235515cf3j...@jaharrison.me.uk>, John Harrison wrote: > In article <856d4d3552.davehig...@dsl.pipex.com>, Dave >Higton wrote: > > Every picture I view from the Railway Herald site's > > Imaging Centre causes "Error converting PNG" to flash > > briefly on the bottom line, but on

Re: Bank of Scotland/Halifax

In article <4e77254c.6070...@druck.org.uk>, David J. Ruck wrote: > On 19/09/2011 11:53, John Williams wrote: > > In article, > > Dr Peter Young wrote: > > An interesting fact is that these 'little keypad > > thingies' are all the same, just badged differently. > > So if you need to, you

Re: Nsational Rail Enquiries

In article <38844.87.112.101.90.1304603624.squir...@webmail2.orpheusnet.co.uk>, Dave Lawton wrote: > >> or for longer journeys > >> http://reiseauskunft.bahn.de/bin/query.exe/en > >> HTH > Did you try the German site ? I have not looked at it under RISC OS for years, so I thought I would tr

Re: iGoogle not displaying?

In article , David Pitt wrote: > You could check your facts, Firefox 4 was released on the > 22nd of this month. As I said, FF advised of the upgrade to reach 3.6.16 after that date - from which it was reasonable to deduce that Mozilla did not think that Ver 4 was ready yet. I was ignoring b

Re: iGoogle not displaying?

In article <51b97dea78d...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > Rumours? of a version 4, keep up that man at the back, > Beta 4 versions have been out and about for ages... Well > I've had them on my machines for what seems like ages. ;-) > Version 4 RC was released last weekend(ish), followed by

Re: iGoogle not displaying?

In article <51b97dea78d...@triffid.co.uk>, Dave Symes wrote: > As I understand it, this is mostly due to the Dumbass > users, computer arrives with IE whatever installed, and > that's how it stays, mostly as time passes, they don't > know or care that newer versions are available, or that > Firef

Re: iGoogle not displaying?

In article , David Pitt wrote: > "make sure you have the latest version of your browser" > indeed!! The latest mainstream browsers are Safari 5, > Firefox 4 and IE9. This is not really on topic, and I do not use Safari, and only very rarely IE. My version of Firefox is 3.6.16, to which it wa

Re: OpenDNS and (Re: Problem on test build page.)

In article <20110322105125.ga15...@rjek.com>, Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:25:56AM +, Tim Hill wrote: > > As a side note, this also reveals that OpenDNS may not > > be a good idea with NetSurf because OpenDNS error pages > > use javascript and the section doesn't work >

Re: OpenDNS and (Re: Problem on test build page.)

In article <51b7e8c26f...@timil.com>, Tim Hill wrote: > As a side note, this also reveals that OpenDNS may not be > a good idea with NetSurf because OpenDNS error pages use > javascript and the section doesn't work here > either. As an openDNS user for a couple of years, I have to say that I ac

Re: Bookmarks Open New Window

In article <4d794583.2010...@ntlworld.com>, Mark Williams wrote: > This happens in the GTK version. It would be preferable > if a bookmarked site opened in the already running > instance of Netsurf. IMHO no. I do so wish that Firefox worked that way, but I have to open a new tab each time when

Re: in HTML

In article <163affa451.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter wrote: > On 13 Feb 2011 Dave Higton wrote: > > My experiments yesterday and today show that Netsurf > > ignores font attributes within HTML, e.g. > > (and all the other generic face > > types) are ignored, whereas the equivalen

Re: Black Blobs

In article , Steve Fryatt wrote: > On 24 Dec, Russell Hafter - Lists wrote in message > <518a919fd1rh.li...@phone.coop>: > > I have never noticed any problems with SparkPlug 2.28, > > but thought modernising might be a good idea. > > > > Both NetSurf and

Re: Black Blobs

In article , David Pitt wrote: > There is a setting in in !SparkPlug.Options. The catch is > that SparkPlug cannot edit its options so it is a > StrongED or Zap job. The byte at &40 needs to be &2F, > '/', it was &5F, '_'. > The latest SparkPlug 2.29 is correct. > http://www.davidpilling.co

Re: NS2.60 and F8

In article <52712e5c51.roger...@rogerarm.freeuk.com>, Roger Darlington wrote: > this may be normal behaviour for any program (??) : > If I use F8 to view a (local) HTML page in NS2.60, and I > edit it, when I come to save it, it has not got the > correct save address. > But if I instead Menu >

Re: Shortcut to Save Location as ANT URL?

In article , wrote: >John Williams wrote: > > Why not just Shift-drag from the URL field? Or is that > > also too mouse-based? > It is a very useful facility - pity it only works on RISC > OS 5. What is the effect of ANT URL rather than URL? Shift drag using r10638 under RO 4.02 gives

REPEAT: WHERE DO YOU WANT ME TO SENT THIS LOG?? (Downloading zip files (from mw-software)

In article <1279823129.22137.14.ca...@duiker>, John-Mark Bell wrote: > On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 19:16 +0100, Russell Hafter - Lists > wrote: > > In article <1279822036.22137.11.ca...@duiker>, > >John-Mark Bell wrote: > > > > > > Are you runnin

Re: Downloading zip files (from mw-software)

In article <1279823129.22137.14.ca...@duiker>, John-Mark Bell wrote: > On Thu, 2010-07-22 at 19:16 +0100, Russell Hafter - Lists > wrote: > > In article <1279822036.22137.11.ca...@duiker>, > >John-Mark Bell wrote: > > > > > > Are you runnin

Re: Downloading zip files (from mw-software)

In article <1279822036.22137.11.ca...@duiker>, John-Mark Bell wrote: > > Are you running a (recent) version of NetSurf with all > > the logging turned on? If so, is it possible for you to > > email that log to one of us privately? There's no way > > for us to identify where the fault may lie

Re: Downloading zip files (from mw-software)

In article <55621.82.109.43.222.1279803381.squir...@91.84.211.154>, Steve Fryatt wrote: > On Thu, July 22, 2010 12:40 pm, Dr Peter Young wrote: > > As I want to be kind to my hard drive, I haven't dared > > go beyond 10649. Sorry, developers! > In what way do you expect the logging to be unki

Re: Downloading zip files (from mw-software)

In article <20100722102119.641f5...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 10:07:03 +0100 Russell Hafter - Lists > wrote: > > > Can you give us an example URL that demonstrates > > > this? > > Given that in b

Re: Downloading zip files

In article , Brian Howlett wrote: > On 22 Jul, Russell Hafter - Lists wrote: > > Twice in the last week or so I have downloaded zipped > > archives from MW Software, using r10638. > > In both cases I did not get an archive icon to drag to > > a filer window, but t

Re: Downloading zip files

In article <20100722091803.660ac...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 08:42:25 +0100 > Russell Hafter - Lists wrote: > > Twice in the last week or so I have downloaded zipped > > archives from MW Software, using r10638. >

Downloading zip files

Twice in the last week or so I have downloaded zipped archives from MW Software, using r10638. In both cases I did not get an archive icon to drag to a filer window, but the NetSurf window filled up with the data. I then had to save the page and re filetype it as 'archive'. This never used to ha

Re: Base Style Sheet Failed to load

In article <5136ba75aat...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > In article <5136b96b12rh.li...@phone.coop>, Russell >Hafter - Lists wrote: > > This is the error message I receive using NetSurf > > 10636, just downloaded today. Nothing loads beyon

Base Style Sheet Failed to load

This is the error message I receive using NetSurf 10636, just downloaded today. Nothing loads beyond this! Tried it on my own website, google, wikipedia, The Phone Coop, and gave up. -- Russell Hafter - Mailing Lists rh.li...@phone.coop Need a hotel?

Re: Netsurf failure on a BBC site

In article <3ac5493451.harr...@blueyonder.co.uk>, Harriet Bazley wrote: > On 8 Jul 2010 as I do recall, wrote: > > In NetSurf's hotlist follow the entry NetSurf to > > 'NetSurf bug tracker' where you can peruse 1125 entries > > before using 'add new' if you need to. > Just to clarify - my NetS

Re: Netsurf failure on a BBC site

In article <5133a12c7b...@timil.com>, Tim Hill wrote: > In NetSurf's hotlist follow the entry NetSurf to 'NetSurf > bug tracker' where you can peruse 1125 entries before > using 'add new' if you need to. That does look less user unfriendly than it used to. But I still imagine that many people wi

Re: test builds after 2.5

In article <20100518172458.4024b...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, Rob Kendrick wrote: > Where did the developers say this? I don't remember any > of us every saying this. Just that it was likely if > somebody didn't come in and help with the RISC OS front > end. > Can people who keep sayi

Re: NetSurf 2.5 still steals memory

In article <510ff9e4f4t...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > In article <510df29b0frh.li...@phone.coop>, Russell >Hafter - Lists wrote: > > Leaving it on www.xe.com for about 60 minutes this > > morning nevertheless reduced available memory from &g

Re: NetSurf 2.5 still steals memory

In article <510ff9e4f4t...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > In article <510df29b0frh.li...@phone.coop>, Russell >Hafter - Lists wrote: > > Leaving it on www.xe.com for about 60 minutes this > > morning nevertheless reduced available memory from &g

Re: NetSurf 2.5 still steals memory- but works much better elsewhere

After my problem with www.xe.com on NetSurf 2.5 I thought that I would try and see if another page that has caused problems in the past with older versions of NetSurf was now any better... Some time ago I reported (I think it may well have been on a csa. newsgroup rather than here) about how NetSu

Re: NetSurf 2.5 still steals memory

In article <4bd5ad5c.1070...@druck.org.uk>, David J. Ruck wrote: > Either expand your Risc PC to the maximum amount of > memory it will take (256MB) and put off the problem for > another few hours, or face the fact that an almost 20 > year old computer with a fraction of the processor power > an

Re: NetSurf 2.5 still steals memory

In article <20100426104206.287b6...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Mon, 26 Apr 2010 10:39:02 +0100 Russell Hafter - Lists > wrote: > > Seeing the information on Netsurf 2.5 I got the > > impression that the memory theft problem had been >

NetSurf 2.5 still steals memory

Seeing the information on Netsurf 2.5 I got the impression that the memory theft problem had been sorted. Leaving it on www.xe.com for about 60 minutes this morning nevertheless reduced available memory from 47028k to 28k. And in case it is useful, RPC, Strongarm, RO4.02. -- Russell Hafter - Ma

NetSurf 2.5 still steals memory

Seeing the information on Netsurf 2.5 I got the impression that the memory theft problem had been sorted. Leaving it on www.xe.com for about 60 minutes this morning nevertheless reduced available memory from 47028k to 28k. -- Russell Hafter - Mailing Lists rh.li...@phone.coop Need a hotel?

Re: 9764 grabs all the free memory

In article <80463fd150.r...@user.minijem.plus.com>, Richard Porter wrote: > On 29 Dec 2009 rick...@argonet.co.uk wrote: > > <3e6526d150.wra...@wra1th.plus.com> Gavin Wraith wrote: > >> NetSurf 9764 appears to grab all the free memory once > >> it has downloaded http://slashdot.org/ , making it

Re: LloydsTSB

In article <2425c8aa50.davehig...@dsl.pipex.com>, Dave Higton wrote: > In message <501e2bj.mccart...@blueyonder.co.uk> John > McCartney wrote: > > In article > ><1255613403.4ad723dbca...@netmail.pipex.net>, dave > >higton wrote: > > > Move your account to a bank that does

Re: LloydsTSB

In article <8bc4c8aa50.davehig...@dsl.pipex.com>, Dave Higton wrote: > > I can't speak for others, but the amount of work > > required to transfer all My/Our banking stuff elsewhere > > doesn't bear thinking about. > Maybe you're a business customer? I imagine that that is what Dave S is talkin

Re: BBC weather site using hige amounts of memory.

In article <1254248739.23233.15.ca...@duiker>, John-Mark Bell wrote: > > In any case, a bug report with sufficient details never > > does any harm and can often do some good. :) > In this particular case, there is little point in > reporting it on the bug tracker. We already know what the > prob

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

In article <509c71f91eba...@e-allen.me.uk>, Barry E Allen wrote: > Don't be silly. It is not a choice that I have to make. I > rarely use Netsurf, preferring to use Google Chrome on my > PeeCee or Firefox on my ASUS EeePC. Why would anyone use > Netsurf when there are much more capable browser

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

In article <4c6a9b0d0909170252nf91f98eqd9f6afc0319fb...@mail.gmail.com>, A W wrote: > On Thu, Sep 17, 2009 at 10:33 AM, John-Mark Bell > wrote: > > On Thu, 2009-09-17 at 00:08 +0100, aw29...@gmail.com > > wrote: > >> In message <1253105573.5804.236.ca...@duiker> > >> John-Mark Bel

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

In article <1253181177.5804.293.ca...@duiker>, John-Mark Bell wrote: > In NetSurf's case, I can guarantee that it would be less > developed, less robust, and less usable had development > remained solely on RISC OS. > Having access to such tools as valgrind and gdb is > invaluable. The tooling o

Re: Google Summer of Code Roundup

In article , wrote: > I'm wondering if they've said they'd like to but don't > have the know how or time or "provided I could work on > x,y" etc Why would anyone who does not have the "know how or time" come forward in the first place? Surely the developers have better things to do than deal

Re: Running out of memory

In article <509ae27988sjcl...@ormail.co.uk>, Steve Clark wrote: > Has anyone still got a copy of Netsurf dating to before > the memory leak problem that they could send me (offlist)? After finding that memory problems resulted in r9012 causing the machine to run out of memory I reverted to r8240

Re: Netsurf r9012 stealing all the memory

In article <508692c084rh.li...@phone.coop>, Russell Hafter - Lists wrote: > I reverted to r8240 this morning. I had not noticed this > before, but this has stolen 16MB between 0900 and 1340 > while continuously connected to www.xe.com. But I am sure > that r9012 would have just

Netsurf r9012 stealing all the memory

In article <508652d59fasg...@inspire.net.nz>, Keith Hopper wrote: > In article <50862dfe20dhw...@talktalk.net>, David H Wild > wrote: > > In article <5086254b29rh.li...@phone.coop>, Russell > >Hafter - Lists wrote: > > > I have not noticed

Netsurf r9012 stealing all the memory

I have not noticed this behaviour before, until upgrading to r9012 (so that Googlr displays correctly again). I often have www.xe.com permanently on screen to monitor movements in the GBP/EUR exchange rate, to help me decide when to buy another tranche of Euros. With earlier versions I could happ

Re: Serious error when doing a full save to disc

In article <30e4ec8050.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Dr Peter Young wrote: > On 26 Jul 2009 Richard Ashbery > wrote: > > Serious Save bug when Adjust-clicking on Save icon. A > > fatal error from NetSurf occurs (must exit immediately) > > and icon disappears from iconbar. > > A good site to t

Re: Re-direct problem?

In article <5077ca16fbcvj...@waitrose.com>, Chris Newman wrote: > The Museum of Bath at Work has a website, the URL of > which has changed over the years. The old URL still works > with Netsurf. > http://www.paulbg.com/bathatwork/ > However, the following new one given in their literature > do

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

In article <507746ffee...@timil.com>, Tim Hill wrote: > I don't understand how anyone can manage with > (a) only a handful of font families, and > (b) everything they produce looking 'the same'. I thought that was known as 'House Style', and generally to be recommended. I accept that posters

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

In article <4a51cdc4.6020...@druck.org.uk>, David J. Ruck wrote: > Russell Hafter - Lists wrote: > > Having been involved in earlier discussions about > > unicode and NetSurf (at that time) failing to display > > certain eastern European characters I am well aware

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

In article <50768756a5t...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > In article <507685eb29rh.li...@phone.coop>, Russell >Hafter - Lists wrote: > > But while that may be a reason, it does not explain the > > need for font scanning *to me*. Sorry. > Tr

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

In article <20090706092932.0493f...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Mon, 06 Jul 2009 09:13:03 +0100 Russell Hafter - Lists > wrote: > > In article > > <20090706003522.53717...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, > >Rob Kendrick

Re: NS2.1 Unicode font library could not be initialized

In article <20090706003522.53717...@trite.i.flarn.net.i.flarn.net>, Rob Kendrick wrote: > On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 21:03:02 +0100 Mike Hobbs > wrote: > > And all this trouble seems to be over fonts which > > NetSurf is never likely to use. > But NetSurf doesn't know this unless it scans them. Th

Re: Squashed formatting on Google.

In article <0f81f77350.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Dr Peter Young wrote: > Does anyone else find this, and is it worth a bug report? > In www.google.co.uk the formatting isn't right for me > (RISC OS 5.14, NetSurf r8217 and several previous > builds; most things are a bit squashed up. A screen

Re: Failure of NetSurf to pass data on to e-mail software

In article <1246451109.32517.45.ca...@duiker>, John-Mark Bell wrote: > On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 13:16 +0100, Russell Hafter - Lists > wrote: > > In article <1246450326.32517.43.ca...@duiker>, > > John-Mark Bell wrote: > > > On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 11:00 +0

Re: Failure of NetSurf to pass data on to e-mail software

In article <1246450326.32517.43.ca...@duiker>, John-Mark Bell wrote: > On Wed, 2009-07-01 at 11:00 +0100, Russell Hafter - Lists > wrote: > > I have noticed the following problem with NetSurf for > > over a year now. > [huge mailto: url] > > Clicking on thi

Failure of NetSurf to pass data on to e-mail software

I have noticed the following problem with NetSurf for over a year now. As it is possibly not of major interest to most users I have not said anything publicly until now, but since NetSurf has become so much more usable since early this year, maybe this is now the time to draw people's attention to

Re: Squashed formatting on Google.

In article <0f81f77350.pnyo...@pnyoung.ormail.co.uk>, Dr Peter Young wrote: > Does anyone else find this, and is it worth a bug report? > In www.google.co.uk the formatting isn't right for me > (RISC OS 5.14, NetSurf r8217 and several previous > builds; most things are a bit squashed up. Yes. I

Re: target=_new_window

On 27 Jun, Jim Nagel wrote in message : > Tony Moore wrote on 12 Jun: > > Using NetSurf, you can close the blank window, as soon > > as the download dialogue box appears. The download > > continues unaffected. > is there a keyboard shortcut to close such a window? if > not, is that a usefu

Re: Slashdot unloadable

In article <5800e46a50.davehig...@dsl.pipex.com>, Dave Higton wrote: > In message Ian J > Hartley wrote: > > In message > > li...@davebarnett.me.uk wrote: > > > Using r7730 on 4.39, attempting to load Slashdot > > > http://slashdot.org/ causes Netsurf icon to disappear >

Re: Slashdot unloadable

In article , wrote: > Using r7730 on 4.39, attempting to load Slashdot > http://slashdot.org/ causes Netsurf icon to disappear > from the iconbar. Also does this on Ver 2.1 (23 May 2009) -- Russell Hafter - Mailing Lists rh.li...@phone.coop Need a hotel?

Re: target=_new_window

In article <506a3fbf40t...@netsurf-browser.org>, Michael Drake wrote: > In article , >Grahame Parish wrote: > > In RISC OS the new window fully overlays the parent in > > most cases, so you can end up with a stack of redundant > > windows hiding behind the current one. I can see it > > bei

Re: Speed of loading NetSurf

In article <52ef6d6250.wra...@wra1th.plus.com>, Gavin Wraith wrote: > In message <28366c6250.roger...@rogerarm.freeuk.com> you > wrote: > > Loading/Running NetSurf (on an Iyonix at least) seems > > to take 30 seconds whereas running Oregano2 takes less > > that 3 seconds. [I am not including the

Re: NetSurf 2.0 + Royal Mail Address Finder

In article <5053af3c60brian.jord...@btinternet.com>, Brian Jordan wrote: > In article <5053ad248brh.li...@phone.coop>, Russell >Hafter - Lists wrote: > > It was not possible to use the Royal Mail's Address > > Finder with NetSurf 1.2, though many of the m

NetSurf 2.0 + Royal Mail Address Finder

It was not possible to use the Royal Mail's Address Finder with NetSurf 1.2, though many of the more recent test builds did work OK. I have just tried it with NetSurf 2.0 and there is a problem again. www.royalmail.com/postcodes When entering info into the form here, while the cursor moves along

Re: Font Scanning

In article <5045d943c8li...@picindex.info>, John Williams wrote: > In article <5045d76fa5rh.li...@virgin.net>, Russell >Hafter - Lists wrote: > > That does not seem to be the best place to store such > > info. Surely Scrap, by definition and name, is just

Re: Font Scanning

In article , Tony Moore wrote: > Having scanned the fonts when it is first run, NetSurf > stores the result in !Scrap. Thus, to avoid font-scanning > at every start-up, !Scrap should not be kept in a RAMdisc. That does not seem to be the best place to store such info. Surely Scrap, by definition

Re: website crashes netsurf

In article <4866bc3350.old_coas...@old_coaster.yahoo.co.uk>, Tony Moore wrote: > NetSurf 2.0 (Dev) (16 Feb 2009 20:30) r6542 > After double clicking on > http://www.informationweek.com/news/windows/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=171203805 > NetSurf crashes, without opening its main window, and > di