Re: [EXT] Re: Thoughts on coups

2020-11-25 Thread Brian Holmes
On Tue, Nov 24, 2020 at 6:20 PM Sean Cubitt wrote: The unthinkable has to be thought. > That's exactly it. I like this discussion. It's fascinating how the ideas spring up like mushrooms. I especially like Oliver's call for all the approaches that people might be experimenting with - aesthetic,

Re: Thoughts on coups

2020-11-25 Thread John Young
An-archism vs. mon-archism, many vs. few, devil vs. deity, wilderness vs borderlands, mob vs. cops, they vs. we, other vs. I, id vs. ego. Same old duplicitous dichotomy, constitutional democracy as if much different from constitutional monarchy. "Constitutional" the playbook to invest

Re: [EXT] Re: Thoughts on coups

2020-11-25 Thread oliver lerone schultz
thanks for this interesting discussion to everyone, I think a crux is to look at altermodern epistemologies and systems of knowledge – and the (political) question is how to (finally) acknowledge and federate these to the planetary political. – this can be spelled out in terms of

Re: [EXT] Re: Thoughts on coups

2020-11-25 Thread Andreas Broeckmann
Sean, Brian, others, thank you for the interesting and engaging contributions. (Some of it gets a bit cryptic since it refers to political discourses that are not immediately apparent, at least to this reader, but that's generally OK for a most-of-the-time lurker.) Sean Cubitt wrote (Nov 24,

Re: [EXT] Re: Thoughts on coups

2020-11-25 Thread Eric Kluitenberg
Hi Brian, Sean, > On 25 Nov 2020, at 01:19, Sean Cubitt wrote: > > Eco-socialism yes - but only if the 'social' is rethought - and re-practiced > - no longer exclusively as human: The Commons is a better phrase, common > land, general intellect (including those forms it takes when congealed