Hi Brian, Sean,

> On 25 Nov 2020, at 01:19, Sean Cubitt <sean.cub...@unimelb.edu.au> wrote:
> 
> Eco-socialism yes - but only if the 'social' is rethought - and re-practiced 
> - no longer exclusively as human: The Commons is a better phrase, common 
> land, general intellect (including those forms it takes when congealed into 
> machines and infrastructures). We could start with that absurd contradiction 
> 'intellectual property' - commons as peer-to-peer ecology/economy may start 
> from undoing at least property as core concept of western Enlightenment. That 
> this implies undoing the 'proper' as the principle of individualism is one 
> way to recognise where anarchism belongs to capital and when it doesn’t

I agree with Sean that the discourse and practices of the commons is one of the 
few truly hopeful political tendencies of recent times. My guide into the 
domain of the commons has for a long time been David Bollier and his excellent 
work on the subject (http://www.bollier.org/ <http://www.bollier.org/>).

However, I also agree with Brian that we (desperately) need a state, or some 
more stable form of collective governance in this equation. One of the most 
interesting things about the commons is that it operates beyond both state and 
market, but it operates not so much in contradiction to these two as that it 
operates complementary or in parallel to them.

From the extended debates on the commons it has become gradually clear that 
while community-governed solutions can work well locally and translocally (more 
or less in the vein of Elinor Ostrom's work on governance of the commons) the 
most beneficial situation is where an accountable state can guarantee and 
facilitate the commons to thrive.

In good old Europe meanwhile the green deal is at the heart of political 
debates here, and bitterly opposed by predictable political agents (i.e. 
Brexiteers in the UK, nationalist governments in Hungary and Poland, and so 
called ‘populists’ across the board). In The Netherlands the worst political 
agent in this regard cynically named the Forum for Democracy (Forum for 
Demagogy would be a much better name for them) just went into complete meltdown 
over a scandal involving their youth organisation spreading antisemitic and 
nazi-adoration materials. Mind you they won the most recent provincial election 
and are holding now most seats in the senate (First Chamber), but nowhere near 
a majority – the Dutch political landscape is thankfully totally fragmented. It 
is of crucial importance to use this momentum here to avoid another right wing 
outgrowth to take over again. They are complete climate change denialists, etc. 
needless to say.

Replacing the social with the collective of humans and non-humans is another 
good starting point for a new kind of political discourse and new political 
practices. I think this is already beyond the unthinkable. Some local examples 
come to mind, such as the most obvious one the Animal Party which has a steady 
representation in Dutch Parliament now for about 10 years. There are also 
interesting trajectories launched from the cultural sphere, such as the Embassy 
of the North Sea, which treats the sea and all its stakeholders / constituents 
(human / non-human / biological / material) as political actors with interests 
and rights - see: https://www.embassyofthenorthsea.com/ 
<https://www.embassyofthenorthsea.com/>

Also the extensive Neuhaus project organised last year by Het Nieuwe Instituut 
in Rotterdam is a relevant example to start thinking these new relations and 
how they can be implemented in the political body - 
https://neuhaus.hetnieuweinstituut.nl/en 
<https://neuhaus.hetnieuweinstituut.nl/en> 

Also in 2019 I developed a course called The Four Ecologies, drawing on 
Guattari’s still highly relevant Three Ecologies text (referencing the material 
/ social / subjective ecological registers) and extending this with a fourth 
register, that of non-human experience (building on Latour, Morton, Haraway 
etc.).

There’s more examples, in many places - Open Humanities Press has been 
publishing a lot of relevant material in this direction as well, etc etc..

So, all this is certainly not unthinkable. The point is to start applying these 
insights. For that we need strong collective actors (the green state and 
manifold communities sustaining and growing the commons). 

So we need commons AND states.

grtngs,
Eric

p.s.  - and yes, ‘intellectual property = cultural theft’

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