Re: Covid and the crisis of neo-liberalism - (...always) look on the bright (regenerative) side...?

2021-09-16 Thread Brian Holmes
This text on regenerative agriculture is beautiful! and powerful! Whoah, the rising tide of the biologically inclined has even swept nettime, the times are changing in so many ways. On Mon, Sep 6, 2021 at 4:42 AM martin wrote: > > Hello, > > Interesting conversation... > > On 05/09/2021

Re: Covid and the crisis of neo-liberalism - (...always) look on the bright (regenerative) side...?

2021-09-16 Thread jan hendrik brueggemeier
hi everyone interesting conversation indeed, apologies for being late to the party. thanks, martin, for sharing these references. On the note of bright regenerative side I just thought share David Holmgren's latest post, who is one of Australia's leading perma culture guru or "permis". It is a

Re: Covid and the crisis of neo-liberalism

2021-09-06 Thread Joseph Rabie
In “Face à Gaïa”, Bruno Latour states that we have to identify the irreconcilable enemy against whom we are at war. The enemy all point to here is capitalism, capitalists and the ravages that they cause. Wars have been waged and lost against capitalism before. The USSR ultimately lost their’s,

Re: Covid and the crisis of neo-liberalism - (...always) look on the bright (regenerative) side...?

2021-09-06 Thread martin
Hello, Interesting conversation... On 05/09/2021 18:31, John Hopkins wrote: I am very sorry to hear about your ailments and wish you all the best. Then, -- though I admittedly can sometimes also be caught in a moment of weakness and despair where I forget myself and utter statements with a

Re: Covid and the crisis of neo-liberalism

2021-09-05 Thread Sean Cubitt
1. Re: Covid and the crisis of neo-liberalism (John Hopkins) 2. Re: Covid and the crisis of neo-liberalism (Vincent Gaulin) -- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 5 Sep 2021 11:31:47 -0600 From: John Hopkins I would suggest that th

Re: Covid and the crisis of neo-liberalism

2021-09-05 Thread Michael H. Goldhaber
More probably the shirt wearer was expressing himself ironically. But maybe he couldn’t press it because he lacked an ironing board. Does everyone here lack one too? Best, Michael via iPhone, so please ecuse misteaks. > On Sep 5, 2021, at 11:27 AM, Vincent Gaulin > wrote: > >  > --I

Re: Covid and the crisis of neo-liberalism

2021-09-05 Thread Vincent Gaulin
--I literally saw a guy in a cafe with a tee-shirt that read "I can't hear you -- over the sound of my freedom." I think it's important to keep in mind that "speech acts" of this kind are mimetic and consumption oriented, rather than arising from some kind of self-made ethic. Just like on social

Re: Covid and the crisis of neo-liberalism

2021-09-05 Thread John Hopkins
I tend to agree with you, Sean, about the huge problems caused by some threads of systems thinking and engineering that arose in the bowels of the Military-academic-industrial complex. However, there are other threads (i.e.,James Miller, Howard Odum) that have taken a far-wider view that

Re: Covid and the crisis of neo-liberalism

2021-09-05 Thread Lichty, Patrick M
ideas must absolutely be subjected to critique, where the latter is never a denunciation, but an interrogation of their ‘pharmacological’ limits"" Subject: Re: Covid and the crisis of neo-liberalism thanks for circulating Patrice there's a great piece responding to similar i

Re: Covid and the crisis of neo-liberalism

2021-09-05 Thread Lichty, Patrick M
email: v...@voyd.com instagram, twitter: @patlichty From: on behalf of Sean Cubitt Date: Saturday, September 4, 2021 at 5:41 PM To: "nettime-l@mail.kein.org" Subject: Re: Covid and the crisis of neo-liberalism thanks for getting to the numb of it Brian tho personally I

Re: Covid and the crisis of neo-liberalism

2021-09-05 Thread Gary Hall
ein.org You can reach the person managing the list at     nettime-l-ow...@mail.kein.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of nettime-l digest..." Today's Topics:    1. Re: Covid and the crisis

Re: Covid and the crisis of neo-liberalism

2021-09-04 Thread Sean Cubitt
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Re: Covid and the crisis of neo-liberalism

2021-09-03 Thread Brian Holmes
I agree that the "absolute failure of the West" is rhetorical vagary. But the idea that central societal tenets concerning "freedom" and "democracy" must be subjected to theoretical and practical critique is not. Currently one is free to extract fossil fuels, and also free to die in a flood or a

Re: Covid and the crisis of neo-liberalism

2021-09-02 Thread Andreas Broeckmann
please (Daniel Ross), define "absolute failure (of the West)". -a ps: i suggest to leave room, in this definition, for failures of yet other proportions. pps: looks like adjectives are generally up for grabs these days and might become redundant rubble, if not signifiers of the opposites,

Re: Covid and the crisis of neo-liberalism

2021-09-02 Thread Sean Cubitt
thanks for circulating Patrice there's a great piece responding to similar issues by Daniel Ross (aka Stiegler’s translator): https://mscp.org.au/plague-proportions/this-pandemic-should-not-have-happened a flavour: "Anthropogenic climate change and the systemic limits with which it is

Adam Tooze: Covid and the crisis of neo-liberalism

2021-09-02 Thread patrice riemens
Original to: https://www.theguardian.com/news/2021/sep/02/covid-and-the-crisis-of-neoliberalism Covid and the crisis of neo-liberalism by Adam Tooze https://www.theguardian.com/profile/adam-tooze The Guardian, Thursday 2 Sep 2021 If one word could sum up the experience of 2020, it would