Bill Stoddard wrote:
The protocol Lotus Notes uses is keepalive (yea, it is a proprietary protocol and
may not count in
this discussion).
Yes, that may. As a protocol guru I am probably not allowed to see the
protocol definition?? :-))
Doesn't BXXP (is that what it is called now?)
On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 04:26:54PM -0600, David McCreedy wrote:
Are the name "Apache" and the feather trademarks of the Apache Software
Foundation?
The reason I ask is that I would like to use them in an upcoming
presentation.
If they are trademarked I will add a notice to that effect.
(A
The fact that Apache-2.x's build system doesn't support the extra feature
from 1.3's scares me a bit. I don't think external modules can be added
without a lot of hassle in the current build system. That worries me.
We'd have to generate the config.m4 file on the fly. Hmm... --
Iain Brown wrote:
'Pologies for inserting my thoughts into what really is a developers' issue,
but... as a user and long-term wannabee developer (one day, one day...) I
would *strongly* prefer a) or b). Building Apache with its included modules
is a breeze. Building
Joshua Slive [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 19 Apr 2001, Jeff Trawick wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
yoshiki 01/04/18 19:54:28
Added: docs/manual index.html.html index.html.ja.jis
Removed: docs/manual index.html
Log:
New Japanese translation.
Ian Holsman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
my only concen with splitting the proxy out is that
no one will actively maintain it, and keep it up to date
with the current http releases.
saying that i'm quite happy to volunteer myself to do this function,
but i'm not an ASF member, or even have
Spent a bit of time looking at this and I think the fix is in the wrong place but I'm
not enough of
a mod_include expert to say for sure.
First, mod_include generally works so I presume this is a case where a tag spans
buckets. In that
case, ctx-directive_length is wrong. Wouldn;t the best
jean-frederic clere [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi,
I have detected that the variable log_hash of mod_log_config is not initialized
correctly. It causes a core on Solaris...
just curious, plz verify...
I guess http_pre_config() is calling ap_register_log_handler() before
Bill Stoddard wrote:
Spent a bit of time looking at this and I think the fix is in the wrong place but
I'm not enough of
a mod_include expert to say for sure.
First, mod_include generally works so I presume this is a case where a tag spans
buckets. In that
case, ctx-directive_length is
Jeff Trawick wrote:
jean-frederic clere [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi,
I have detected that the variable log_hash of mod_log_config is not initialized
correctly. It causes a core on Solaris...
just curious, plz verify...
I have:
$ mdb httpd core
Greg Ames wrote:
One theme
I heard over and over was that heavyweight web workloads (database,
mod_perl) should be isolated from lightweight workloads in order to
minimize the memory footprint. Makes a lot of sense to me.
This is more
dude,
I'm about 95% now on Apache 2.0 development.
we've just finished our design, which makes use of 2.0,
and hopefuly we can start cranking out some ports of our 1.3 stuff
and release them to the wild.
the area I'll be focusing on is probably performance and stability
but there are others
Bill Stoddard wrote:
How about initing log_hash in ap_register_log_handler instead, right before the hash
table is
initialized?
Yes, that the first place where we need it. - Commit this one -
Don't submit the patch, it's easy :-).
It is Friday - I could miss a copy + paste -
Nice
I think nobody answered because this is pretty obviously the next Right
Thing to do in distributing httpd and we're to embarassed to admit we
didn't think of it first. 8^)
On Thursday, April 19, 2001, at 05:14 PM, Theo Schlossnagle wrote:
Let me throw in a different perspective of things.
dean gaudet wrote:
how does that work when the browser is making a byterange request on a
massive object... does the proxy strip the byterange before sending to the
upstream?
if so... ew.
it would seem the proxy needs to do byteranges (including caching of
partial content)... or treat
Except that we did. It's been something 1st brought up and considered
at least 3 years ago, except we used the FreeBSD "ports" analogy,
which is much better IMO :)
Chuck Murcko wrote:
I think nobody answered because this is pretty obviously the next Right
Thing to do in distributing httpd
Chuck Murcko wrote:
I think nobody answered because this is pretty obviously the next Right
Thing to do in distributing httpd and we're to embarassed to admit we
didn't think of it first. 8^)
Trouble is - we're getting ahead of ourselves. These are all great
ideas, and should be acted on,
Let's start packaging an httpd-2.0 source build including the proxy
module separately that we think is RC grade and stick it in /dist/proxy
symlinked to -lastest and tagged with the appropriate httpd-2.0 release
tag for simplicity in checkout.
Sound like a plan?
and +1 to using the FreeBSD
Perhaps I'll draw a flame (or a veto) but the question was asked at the start of this
thread and it
received more then three +1's and a -0 from Greg as I recall. Chuck solicited for a
"do you want to
change your vote" and got no responses. So it is clear to go in IMHO.
Bill
Chuck Murcko
dougm 01/04/20 09:43:40
Modified:.CHANGES
include http_config.h
server config.c
support httpd.exp
Log:
Add ap_set_int_slot() function
Submitted by: John K. Sterling [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reviewed by: dougm
I can
From: "Bill Stoddard" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 20, 2001 1:06 PM
Perhaps I'll draw a flame (or a veto) but the question was asked at the start of
this thread and it
received more then three +1's and a -0 from Greg as I recall. Chuck solicited for a
"do you want to
change your
Debugging another problem related to this patch got me to thinking
vent
Is this patch pedantic? I mean, what is wrong with letting mod_log_config handle the
%c directive
just as it always has? We are trying to file every single little nit in its tight
little spot at
the expense of
what would be really cool would be if modules.apache.org had
a) a categorization tree (so you could drill down)
b) a method of grabbing 'all' the modules out there
c) a method of seeing what is 'new'
something like search.cpan.org
this might be easier to accomplish than the ports thing, and
Well, technically, yes, but I think we might have a better idea in using
this to finally go to something like FreeBSD ports for distribution.
And dump all those pesky modules from the core. 8^) Really, all of 'em
just go into the rollup build, if they work. Simple.
Chuck
On Friday, April 20,
Are you planning on removing ap_set_flag_slot which does the same
operation?
sterling
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Bill Stoddard wrote:
-1 (a veto) on this patch.
The Windows compiler doesn't like casts on the left side of the assignment. yea, it
sucks but we've
lready had this discussion.
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Bill Stoddard wrote:
I can -see- from the code being committed that ap_set_int_slot() is being added.
What is it for?
I
suggest commit comments are a good place to do more than state the obvious :-)
same as all the other ap_set_*_slot functions, but for an integer
Ian Holsman wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Greg Ames [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
One theme
I heard over and over was that heavyweight web workloads (database,
mod_perl) should be isolated from lightweight workloads in order to
minimize the memory footprint. Makes a lot of
Greg Ames wrote:
yeah, you're right. My apologies to everyone for a lame argument.
Yesterday was rough...
No apology required. It wasn't all that lame. The main thing is that you
haven't spent the last couple of weeks up to your kneck in threads and
thread droppings. This is all pretty fresh
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Bill Stoddard wrote:
-1 (a veto) on this patch.
The Windows compiler doesn't like casts on the left side of the
assignment. yea, it sucks but we've already had this discussion.
The Windows compiler handles casts on the left side of the assignment
just fine, even at
It's fixed.
Bill
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Bill Stoddard wrote:
-1 (a veto) on this patch.
The Windows compiler doesn't like casts on the left side of the
assignment. yea, it sucks but we've already had this discussion.
The Windows compiler handles casts on the left side of the assignment
This patch avoids the segfault. Basically, the core_module hook needs to run first.
Any problems
with this?
Index: core.c
===
RCS file: /home/cvs/httpd-2.0/server/core.c,v
retrieving revision 1.8
diff -u -u -r1.8 core.c
--- core.c
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The fact that Apache-2.x's build system doesn't support the extra feature
from 1.3's scares me a bit. I don't think external modules can be added
without a lot of hassle in the current build system. That worries me.
We'd have to generate
So did the discussion then stall on the best tool(s)?
I must apologize for being out of the loop then.
Chuck
On Friday, April 20, 2001, at 01:20 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote:
Except that we did. It's been something 1st brought up and considered
at least 3 years ago, except we used the FreeBSD
wasn't there some interest in making apachetoolbox.com an
asf project a while back? doesn't it address some of these
problems?
jim
On Fri, Apr 20, 2001 at 05:36:35PM -0400, Chuck Murcko wrote:
So did the discussion then stall on the best tool(s)?
I must apologize for being out of the loop
Well. I don't want to start a holy war about CPAN vs. "ports". I really
don't know to much about ports. I don't operate userland FreeBSD boxes too
often -- just lean and mean servers.
But, the thing I particularly like about CPAN is that _ALL_ of the modules are
on _every_ CPAN server. This
Rob and Karen,
I am a strong -1 on this patch. The code in find_end_sequence computes the
ctx-directive_length. That is the length of the SSI directive only, not the
whole SSI tag (which is stored in ctx-tag_length. This allows the full tag
to be parsed once, marking important indexes as it goes
Ian Holsman wrote:
I'm not sure if this means that ALL filters are slow, or if
it is just mod-include.
I'm sure that there are some aspects of mod_include that can be improved,
but the fact of the matter is that a filter that looks at every byte across
buckets and brigades is going to slow
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Paul J. Reder wrote:
I'm sure that there are some aspects of mod_include that can be improved,
but the fact of the matter is that a filter that looks at every byte across
buckets and brigades is going to slow things down. With 2.0 admins will
need to do a more judicious
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Marc Slemko wrote:
Umh... that's bogus. There is no reason and no way that simply having a
file parsed for SSIs should have to be that slow. I hope there is
something very not right here (ie. room for big performance improvements)
causing very poor results, but SSIs
Marc Slemko wrote:
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Paul J. Reder wrote:
Ian Holsman wrote:
I'm not sure if this means that ALL filters are slow, or if
it is just mod-include.
I'm sure that there are some aspects of mod_include that can be improved,
but the fact of the matter is that a
On Fri, 20 Apr 2001, Paul J. Reder wrote:
Thanks Cliff, I couldn't have said it better, except that I believe that even
on MMAP systems some price is paid whenever an SSI tag is found and replaced.
The replacement content for the tag gets put into newly allocated buckets which
I believe are
BTW.. I didn't want to start a flame on this issue
Nah, it's all healthy discussion, Apache Group style :-)
Bill
On 20 Apr 2001 20:58:29 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
jwoolley01/04/20 13:58:28
Modified:modules/filters mod_include.c
Log:
Change mod_include to use the latest bucket API tricks. This gets
rid of some obscure while loop magic that had to be done before,
making mod_include
I'd like to amen that... I'm starting to see something here that's concerning
me. I think that some of the developers have lost touch with what we as web
admins need. We need a server that does following (in order I think.) (and
all of this of course is IMHO):
1) A stable server
2) One that
Cliff Woolley wrote:
Still on my plate (I'll get it done soon, I swear) is the new memory
allocation scheme for buckets,
are you thinking about an atomic push/pop block allocator? I'll be
happy to help out if so, especially with the machine instruction level
stuff.
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