Re: [newbie] Ballmer: Win more secure that Lin

2003-10-25 Thread John Wilson
On October 24, 2003 05:48 am, HaywireMac wrote: On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:17:30 -0400 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: We know that journalists are bought by advertising dollars and we know which software model has the money to buy them. They are respected by the public slightly

Re: [newbie] Ballmer: Win more secure that Lin

2003-10-24 Thread John Wilson
On October 23, 2003 03:28 am, HaywireMac wrote: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105_2-5094279.html Ballmer also disputed the notion that open-source code is more secure than Windows. The data doesn't jibe with that. In the first 150 days after the release of Windows 2000, there were 17 critical

Re: [newbie] Ballmer: Win more secure that Lin

2003-10-24 Thread HaywireMac
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 23:49:45 -0700 John Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Now..onto Linux. Whatever number of vulnerabilities are reported and patched the fact remains that these are often discovered by the development team and patched BEFORE any reported attempt to exploit the

Re: [newbie] Ballmer: Win more secure that Lin

2003-10-24 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Friday 24 October 2003 12:59 am, Michael Adams wrote: snip Trouble is Bryan, mainstream press quote these statements verbatim and do not quote anything to the contrary alongside it. They are not interested in doing any 'investigitive journalism' nowadays when they can cut and paste from

Re: [newbie] Ballmer: Win more secure that Lin

2003-10-24 Thread HaywireMac
On Fri, 24 Oct 2003 08:17:30 -0400 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: We know that journalists are bought by advertising dollars and we know which software model has the money to buy them. They are respected by the public slightly more than politicians and slightly less than used-car

Re: [newbie] Ballmer: Win more secure that Lin

2003-10-24 Thread Aron Smith
On Fri, 2003-10-24 at 01:46, HaywireMac wrote: On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 23:49:45 -0700 John Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Now..onto Linux. Whatever number of vulnerabilities are reported and patched the fact remains that these are often discovered by the development team and patched

Re: [newbie] Ballmer: Win more secure that Lin

2003-10-24 Thread HaywireMac
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 06:28:03 -0400 HaywireMac [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105_2-5094279.html Ballmer also disputed the notion that open-source code is more secure than Windows. The data doesn't jibe with that. In the first 150 days after the release of Windows

[newbie] Ballmer: Win more secure that Lin

2003-10-23 Thread HaywireMac
http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105_2-5094279.html Ballmer also disputed the notion that open-source code is more secure than Windows. The data doesn't jibe with that. In the first 150 days after the release of Windows 2000, there were 17 critical vulnerabilities. For Windows Server 2003 there were

Re: [newbie] Ballmer: Win more secure that Lin

2003-10-23 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 06:28, HaywireMac wrote: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105_2-5094279.html Ballmer also disputed the notion that open-source code is more secure than Windows. The data doesn't jibe with that. In the first 150 days after the release of Windows 2000, there were 17 critical

Re: [newbie] Ballmer: Win more secure that Lin

2003-10-23 Thread Kaj Haulrich
On Thursday 23 October 2003 07:16 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: snip 2) More security issues are reported with Linux at times both because of the honesty of the working team and because the working team is worldwide, with more eyeballs. Less bugs are reported on M$ by M$ because they are liars.

Re: [newbie] Ballmer: Win more secure that Lin

2003-10-23 Thread Lyvim Xaphir
On Thu, 2003-10-23 at 17:41, Kaj Haulrich wrote: On Thursday 23 October 2003 07:16 pm, Lyvim Xaphir wrote: snip 2) More security issues are reported with Linux at times both because of the honesty of the working team and because the working team is worldwide, with more eyeballs. Less

Re: [newbie] Ballmer: Win more secure that Lin

2003-10-23 Thread Paul M. Bucalo
On Thursday 23 October 2003 04:26 pm, Anne Wilson graced me with: On Thursday 23 Oct 2003 11:28 am, HaywireMac wrote: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1105_2-5094279.html Ballmer also disputed the notion that open-source code is more secure than Windows. The data doesn't jibe with that. In the

Re: [newbie] Ballmer: Win more secure that Lin

2003-10-23 Thread Bryan Phinney
On Thursday 23 October 2003 04:33 pm, Paul M. Bucalo wrote: Balmer may be conveniently throwing in *all* of Red Hat's critical vulnerabilities in its *distribution release*, which amounts to many, many applications, not just the O/S. If he compares O/S to O/S, instead of O/S to total

Re: [newbie] Ballmer: Win more secure that Lin

2003-10-23 Thread Michael Adams
On Thu, 23 Oct 2003 17:45:56 -0400 Bryan Phinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thursday 23 October 2003 04:33 pm, Paul M. Bucalo wrote: Balmer may be conveniently throwing in *all* of Red Hat's critical vulnerabilities in its *distribution release*, which amounts to many, many