Re: [newbie] normal user can delete root owned files!

2003-03-08 Thread robin
Benjamin Pflugmann wrote: On Fri 2003-03-07 at 17:03:31 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its all to do with the x. for a file it means the owner/group can execute that file. But for a directory, anybody in the group for that directory can delete any file in the root of that directory, even if the

Re: [newbie] normal user can delete root owned files!

2003-03-08 Thread Stephen Kuhn
On Sat, 2003-03-08 at 22:47, robin wrote: man ls and man rm a pretty good, too ;-) Sir Robin [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# man woman No manual entry for woman [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# man sense No manual entry for sense [EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# man brains No manual entry for brains -- Sun,

Re: [newbie] normal user can delete root owned files!

2003-03-08 Thread Michael Adams
On Sat, 08 Mar 2003 04:15, Todd Slater wrote: On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 02:38:20PM +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 2:26 am, cervixcouch wrote: On Friday 07 March 2003 09:09 am, Raffaele Belardi wrote: You are right, from directories other than the /home/belardi it

Re: [newbie] normal user can delete root owned files!

2003-03-07 Thread Greg Meyer
On Friday 07 March 2003 08:28 am, Raffaele Belardi wrote: nope, the same happens with non empty files! It has to be because it is in your home directory then. Even though the file is owned by root, it is fully manipulateable (is that a word) by the user that owns the specific ~/. Does that

Re: [newbie] normal user can delete root owned files!

2003-03-07 Thread Raffaele Belardi
You are right, from directories other than the /home/belardi it cannot be deleted (I tried '/' '/etc' '/home'). But still, I think that some time ago I tried to delete a root file from my home, and had to su to manage. On everybody else's system its' the same? raffaele [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [newbie] normal user can delete root owned files!

2003-03-07 Thread Brian
Yes, it is the same on my system as I could not open Kmail after moving some things around yesterday. The cause was ownership had changed to root and user did not have permissions in this case. It was in user's home directory as well. Brian On Friday 07 March 2003 09:09 am, Raffaele Belardi

Re: [newbie] normal user can delete root owned files!

2003-03-07 Thread cervixcouch
On Friday 07 March 2003 09:09 am, Raffaele Belardi wrote: You are right, from directories other than the /home/belardi it cannot be deleted (I tried '/' '/etc' '/home'). But still, I think that some time ago I tried to delete a root file from my home, and had to su to manage. On everybody

Re: [newbie] normal user can delete root owned files!

2003-03-07 Thread Anne Wilson
On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 2:26 am, cervixcouch wrote: On Friday 07 March 2003 09:09 am, Raffaele Belardi wrote: You are right, from directories other than the /home/belardi it cannot be deleted (I tried '/' '/etc' '/home'). But still, I think that some time ago I tried to delete a root file

Re: [newbie] normal user can delete root owned files!

2003-03-07 Thread Adolfo Bello
On Fri, 2003-03-07 at 10:38, Anne Wilson wrote: Why would you want something in your home directory that you couldn't delete? I'm not being obtuse - is there any reason you can think of that would make root place a file in your home directory but not want you to be able to delete it?

Re: [newbie] normal user can delete root owned files!

2003-03-07 Thread cervixcouch
On Friday 07 March 2003 09:38 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 2:26 am, cervixcouch wrote: On Friday 07 March 2003 09:09 am, Raffaele Belardi wrote: You are right, from directories other than the /home/belardi it cannot be deleted (I tried '/' '/etc' '/home'). But still, I

Re: [newbie] normal user can delete root owned files!

2003-03-07 Thread Russ Kepler
On Friday 07 March 2003 04:03 am, you wrote: I am running MDK9.0 with msec 3, vanilla kernel. I just noticed that, as a normal user, I am able to delete root-owned files (with -rw-r--r-- rights). I don't know when it started, I am almost sure it was not this way last time I tried. Does

Re: [newbie] normal user can delete root owned files!

2003-03-07 Thread Todd Slater
On Fri, Mar 07, 2003 at 02:38:20PM +, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 2:26 am, cervixcouch wrote: On Friday 07 March 2003 09:09 am, Raffaele Belardi wrote: You are right, from directories other than the /home/belardi it cannot be deleted (I tried '/' '/etc' '/home'). But

Re: [newbie] normal user can delete root owned files!

2003-03-07 Thread et
On Wednesday 05 March 2003 09:54 pm, cervixcouch wrote: On Friday 07 March 2003 09:38 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 06 Mar 2003 2:26 am, cervixcouch wrote: On Friday 07 March 2003 09:09 am, Raffaele Belardi wrote: You are right, from directories other than the /home/belardi it

Re: [newbie] normal user can delete root owned files!

2003-03-07 Thread Raffaele Belardi
This is a good explanation, thanks! After your comment I checked man chmod, I guess the explanation below is what you are referring to: STICKY DIRECTORIES When the sticky bit is set on a directory, files in that directory may be unlinked or renamed only by root or their owner. Without the

Re: [newbie] normal user can delete root owned files!

2003-03-07 Thread Russ Kepler
On Friday 07 March 2003 08:27 am, you wrote: This is a good explanation, thanks! After your comment I checked man chmod, I guess the explanation below is what you are referring to: STICKY DIRECTORIES When the sticky bit is set on a directory, files in that directory may be unlinked or

RE: [newbie] normal user can delete root owned files!

2003-03-07 Thread Ken Walker
to their folder and the copied file will have their permissions. ken -Original Message- From: Raffaele Belardi [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 March 2003 3:28 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [newbie] normal user can delete root owned files! This is a good explanation, thanks! After your

Re: [newbie] normal user can delete root owned files!

2003-03-07 Thread civileme
On Friday 07 March 2003 04:04 am, Greg Meyer wrote: On Friday 07 March 2003 06:03 am, Raffaele Belardi wrote: I am running MDK9.0 with msec 3, vanilla kernel. I just noticed that, as a normal user, I am able to delete root-owned files (with -rw-r--r-- rights). I don't know when it started,

Re: [newbie] normal user can delete root owned files!

2003-03-07 Thread Benjamin Pflugmann
On Fri 2003-03-07 at 17:03:31 -, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Its all to do with the x. for a file it means the owner/group can execute that file. But for a directory, anybody in the group for that directory can delete any file in the root of that directory, even if the group permissions for