[nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-29 Thread Steve Strong
Awesome!  As you all now / have guessed, I've been completely snowed under with work-related work for the last couple of months, and have had 100% intention but 0% time to do anything with the Linq provider.  And it's really pained me to have done so much work, to know that it'

Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-29 Thread Fabio Maulo
Weborb is a real-world demostration on how use NH, especially HQL, in a RIA... even direcly from jscript or whatvever you want. But... well... In .NET world LINQ is the real COOL thing. -- Fabio Maulo El 29/11/2010, a las 11:32, Kakone escribió: > On 26 nov, 03:17, Dmitry wrote: >> I want to

[nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-29 Thread Kakone
On 26 nov, 03:17, Dmitry wrote: > I want to say thanks to Patrick for trying improve the LINQ provider. > In my opinion, and it seems like I am not alone, LINQ is the biggest > usable addition to the NH3. You are not alone :-) As I'm trying to use NHibernate with WCF RIA Services, LINQ is very im

[nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-28 Thread pvginkel
Totally agree. Thanks Patrick. On Nov 26, 3:17 am, Dmitry wrote: > I want to say thanks to Patrick for trying improve the LINQ provider. > In my opinion, and it seems like I am not alone, LINQ is the biggest > usable addition to the NH3. > > Everyone should realize that even though LINQ is by far

[nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-25 Thread Dmitry
I want to say thanks to Patrick for trying improve the LINQ provider. In my opinion, and it seems like I am not alone, LINQ is the biggest usable addition to the NH3. Everyone should realize that even though LINQ is by far not the only way to create queries in NHibernate, it makes NHibnerate much

Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-24 Thread Fabio Maulo
> *From:* nhibernate-development@googlegroups.com [mailto: > nhibernate-developm...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Fabio Maulo > *Sent:* Wednesday, November 24, 2010 1:32 PM > > *To:* nhibernate-development@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Li

RE: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-24 Thread Wenig, Stefan
Wednesday, November 24, 2010 1:32 PM To: nhibernate-development@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider don't worry, the frustration is mutual. On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Stefan Wenig mailto:stefan.we...@rubicon.eu>> wrote: On

Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-24 Thread Fabio Maulo
don't worry, the frustration is mutual. On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:29 AM, Stefan Wenig wrote: > On 23 Nov., 17:09, Fabio Maulo wrote: > > I like LINQ (to object) > > That about sums up the problems I have communicating with you, and the > frustration I'm experiencing. -- Fabio Maulo

[nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-24 Thread Stefan Wenig
Patrick, congratulations, glad you're in! I'm not a member of NH, but I'm in charge of re-linq, which NH's LINQ provider builds upon. re-linq basically just works, but there have been a few issues in the past that we could solve for you (like VB support), that we will solve soon (like using IQuery

[nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-24 Thread Stefan Wenig
On 23 Nov., 17:09, Fabio Maulo wrote: > I like LINQ (to object) That about sums up the problems I have communicating with you, and the frustration I'm experiencing.

Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-23 Thread Patrick Earl
My commitment is to contribute what time and ideas I have to improving NHibernate. I want to help, not just in code, but in areas such as documentation, testing, and packaging. For the time being, I intend to focus my energy on solidifying the Linq provider, fixing issues and providing even more

Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-23 Thread Fabio Maulo
A note about people scared by NH codebase. Don't worry!! I know many areas of NH codebase but nobody can say "I know all NHibernate". NHibernate changes day by day and it has (only in nhibernate\src\NHibernate) 3500 files in 829 folders. Nobody of NHibernate committers have received a "guide line d

Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-23 Thread Fabio Maulo
James, have you heard me saying that the LINQ-provider is the most important feature of NH3 and it represent the better way to query the DB in NH3 ? Did you read a post announcing the final release of NH3 ? Can you, and some others NH's MVP, write some posts with yours opinions about the coming so

Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-23 Thread Fabio Maulo
t; > Stefan > > > > > > *From:* nhibernate-development@googlegroups.com [mailto: > nhibernate-developm...@googlegroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Fabio Maulo > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:35 PM > > *To:* nhibernate-development@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re

[nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-23 Thread James Kovacs
For the breaking changes, I think they need to get in before release assuming that there are no major issues with the patches. For the rest, I like Patrick's idea of making it clear that the LINQ provider is more beta than RTM and not the recommended query mechanism for this release. Let people try

Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-23 Thread Fabio Maulo
An example of commitment can be: "I would mostly help with the LINQ provider giving more attention and pertinent comments to the many issues we have and we will have over LINQ." If it work for you then you are welcome. The mayor rule is: nobody can commit something breaking an existing tests. If

Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-23 Thread Fabio Maulo
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:00 AM, David Pfeffer wrote: > Personally, if NH3 is released without the issues with the LINQ provider > working, I'm going to have to keep my project using the trunk so that I can > get at the LINQ bug fixes. Right now I have HQL scattered throughout my > project, and

Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-23 Thread Patrick Earl
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 8:33 AM, Richard Brown (gmail) < fluke...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > Patrick seems to be on it, so why don’t you show him some love? > ... and we are awaiting Patrick’s response to the invite to become a > committer. > > I'd be happy to help as much as my time allows. :)

Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-23 Thread Richard Brown (gmail)
oups.com] On Behalf Of Fabio Maulo Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:35 PM To: nhibernate-development@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider >From my point of view Linq is just another way to query the DB using NH. Linq is not more strongly typed

RE: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-23 Thread Wenig, Stefan
rnate-developm...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Fabio Maulo Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 1:35 PM To: nhibernate-development@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider >From my point of view Linq is just another way to query the DB using NH. Linq is

Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-23 Thread David Pfeffer
Personally, if NH3 is released without the issues with the LINQ provider working, I'm going to have to keep my project using the trunk so that I can get at the LINQ bug fixes. Right now I have HQL scattered throughout my project, and I really want to replace all of the queries with LINQ so that I c

Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-23 Thread Fabio Maulo
>From my point of view Linq is just another way to query the DB using NH. Linq is not more strongly typed than QueryOver and is not more easy to learn than HQL. "Strategically" Linq is important... a strategy for what ? a commercial plan ? a war ? a competition ? We are at one year of NH2.1.2 wh

Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-23 Thread Diego Mijelshon
*On Behalf Of *Fabio Maulo > *Sent:* Tuesday, November 23, 2010 4:08 AM > *To:* nhibernate-development@googlegroups.com > *Subject:* Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider > > > > Patrick, what Julian said to you is not enough ? > > Are you loo

RE: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-23 Thread Wenig, Stefan
groups.com [mailto:nhibernate-developm...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Patrick Earl Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 3:17 AM To: nhibernate-development@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider Here's a breakdown of the JIRA issues for th

RE: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-23 Thread Wenig, Stefan
Maulo Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 4:08 AM To: nhibernate-development@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider Patrick, what Julian said to you is not enough ? Are you looking for a specific commiter ? Do you want become part of the team ? --

[nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-22 Thread EA
>From the point of view of a new comer to NHibernate I could not agree more with James and Patrick, the Linq provider is the way to go, it should be given a high priority. I have been using the Linq provider in a couple medium size projects this year and it really pays off using it. It streamlined

Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-22 Thread Fabio Maulo
Patrick, what Julian said to you is not enough ? Are you looking for a specific commiter ? Do you want become part of the team ? -- Fabio Maulo El 22/11/2010, a las 23:16, Patrick Earl escribió: Here's a breakdown of the JIRA issues for the LINQ provider: Things that will cause breaking chan

Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-22 Thread Patrick Earl
Here's a breakdown of the JIRA issues for the LINQ provider: Things that will cause breaking changes (probably missed some, but these were obvious): 2099 (arguable if it should be done) 2402 2412 Bugs: 7 with fixes 12 with tests and no fixes 14 with no tests and no fixes Improvements: 4 with fix

Re: [nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-22 Thread Fabio Maulo
Do you mean before 2010/12/04 ? On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:27 PM, James Kovacs wrote: > I can understand your point of view, Fabio, that NHibernate has 5 > other query mechanisms - many more mature - than the LINQ provider. > The reality in the .NET space is that LINQ is king. The preferred > quer

[nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-22 Thread James Kovacs
I can understand your point of view, Fabio, that NHibernate has 5 other query mechanisms - many more mature - than the LINQ provider. The reality in the .NET space is that LINQ is king. The preferred query mechanism for LINQ-to-SQL and EF are both LINQ. Look at the uptake of LINQ-to-NHibernate even

[nhibernate-development] Re: NHibernate 3 and Linq Provider

2010-11-21 Thread Julian Maughan
I should have time to review your Linq patches this week... On Nov 21, 1:33 am, Patrick Earl wrote: > Hi all. > > While I'm thankful for all the work that was put into the Linq > provider for this release, I'm rather disappointed in how the beta > cycle has gone.  We're facing release, and there