Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Feeling like Hodor

2015-09-10 Thread Alexander Press
I've heard heat is necessary for extraction no matter what rote you choose. I got a co worker coming to work with a torch today. So I'll keep everyone updated as to how that goes. Tool rental from auto zone I think will be my best bet. Thanks for that suggest. -- You received this message

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Feeling like Hodor

2015-09-10 Thread Graham Rogers
I have a 1983 650 Nighthawk with the outside stud of number 4 exhaust broken off. I have not been able to unscrew it with vice grips of any kind even after soaking it with PB Blaster. I'm not that concerned. I didn't notice it was broken off when the was engine running. However I will check at

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Feeling like Hodor

2015-09-10 Thread Jeremy
Parrot nose pliers are much better than vise and channel locks. They tighten as you pull. Snap on has the best ones in 4 different sizes but $$. Auto zone OEM tool rental has or had a stud socket kit that is a socket with jaws inside them made to remove and install. My last suggestion is

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Feeling like Hodor

2015-09-10 Thread Kyle Munz
Alexander, Are you unable to fit two nuts on the stud? That is still the best way to remove a stud if possible. What other guys are saying about the torch is true and the next time I have any success with a screw extractor will be the first time. The stud socket solution sounds best but if you

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Feeling like Hodor

2015-09-10 Thread Allen Thomas
Have your guy be super careful with that torch, aluminum doesn't give any warning before it turns into a liquid. Its melting point is roughly 1200 degrees which is a lot lower than the 2000 degrees propane burns at, and mapp or acetylene burns hotter especially if mixed with oxygen. You should

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Feeling like Hodor

2015-09-10 Thread Kurt Nolte
Don't get the stud glowing hot. Since the head is aluminum you can soften the threads that way, you'll damage them pulling it out. I've had success in the past hitting bolts with a torch, then squirting PB or WD at the base to quickly chill the stud/bolt, then hitting it with the extractor. Not a

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Powerless

2015-09-10 Thread Allen Thomas
Also, you might want to pick up a can of electrical contact cleaner, and some dielectric grease and give the connections a good cleaning. Any bike older than 10 years can probably use that done on its entire wire harness, especially the stator/RR, and common ground connections. It is usually the

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Feeling like Hodor

2015-09-10 Thread Graham Rogers
I just bought the stud extractor from NAPA, the one you are talking about. It's like a socket with the extractor inside. I'll have to remove the exhaust to get it over the top of the stud. Won't happen for a couple of days, Graham Sent from my iPad > On Sep 10, 2015, at 09:00, Alexander Press

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Feeling like Hodor

2015-09-10 Thread Allen Thomas
Graham, which kind did you get? This type: http://c.shld.net/rpx/i/s/i/spin/image/spin_prod_206325301 This: http://tinyurl.com/nrhb8z9 Or this: http://www.toolsource.com/prod_medium/100652.jpg On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Graham Rogers wrote: > It fits > >

[Nighthawk Lovers] Gas milage drastic improvement

2015-09-10 Thread 'Hawaii Sean' via Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
I just recently reach 80,000 on my 96. I bought it with 16,000 and from then until January of this year I got around 43 miles to the gallon. Now I'm getting between 50 and 55. I don't think I've changed my driving habits and my commute is basically the same as it has been for the past 7

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Feeling like Hodor

2015-09-10 Thread Graham Rogers
It fits Sent from my iPad > On Sep 10, 2015, at 11:18, Kyle Munz wrote: > > Alexander, > Are you unable to fit two nuts on the stud? That is still the best way to > remove a stud if possible. What other guys are saying about the torch is true > and the next time I have any

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Gas milage drastic improvement

2015-09-10 Thread Javier Garcia
In my experience roughly 10mpg of difference between highway and traffic lights is reasonable. What I found amazing is that at 80k miles you are still getting such a great performance. Maybe the gas you are using has a different composition from the one you use to get a while ago? On Thu, Sep 10,

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Powerless

2015-09-10 Thread mark . wfeld
ok, here is where I can speak from my Nighthawk experience which limited to the 550. You really need to get into that fuse box. There is another post on this forum that has pictures

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Powerless

2015-09-10 Thread Kyle Munz
Yay, I got a shoutout! -Kyle On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 12:49 PM, wrote: > ok, here is where I can speak from my Nighthawk experience which limited > to the 550. > > You really need to get into that fuse box. There is another post on this > forum that has pictures ( >

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Gas milage drastic improvement

2015-09-10 Thread Kurt Nolte
Legally speaking the variation of energy content in standard gasoline is limited to 3% deviation from an established standard. Reformulated and oxygenated blends have a separate standard, but the same allowable variation. Side note: Ethanol blends use the standard of the fuel they are emulating:

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Powerless

2015-09-10 Thread john connolly
Well for now, pushing all the connectors together and squeezing the box helped! Thanks once again! On Thursday, September 10, 2015, Allen Thomas wrote: > I don't have a problem remembering how I did things, just what I did and > on which bike. I've been saying I'm going

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Feeling like Hodor

2015-09-10 Thread Allen Thomas
Weld a nut first, those studs are hardened and will be tough to drill. and the easy outs won't grab well. Do a couple of cycles of heat and PB Blaster over the next few days then give it a try. On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 12:08 AM, Alexander Press wrote: > Kansas City, Kansas.

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Feeling like Hodor

2015-09-10 Thread Graham Rogers
Tell me where you are again? Graham Sent from my iPad > On Sep 10, 2015, at 22:57, Alexander Press wrote: > > looks like i gouged the threads so much its more like a 5mm stud at this > point. the 6mm extractor couldnt get a grip on whats left. Heat is not > working.

[Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Feeling like Hodor

2015-09-10 Thread Alexander Press
looks like i gouged the threads so much its more like a 5mm stud at this point. the 6mm extractor couldnt get a grip on whats left. Heat is not working. the stud is not moving AT ALL. Like, Zero movement. GAH! This is the worst thing thats happened to my motorcycling carerr thus far. I

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Feeling like Hodor

2015-09-10 Thread Alexander Press
Kansas City, Kansas. Well, in a suburb of KC. I'm assuming you're in PA? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Powerless

2015-09-10 Thread Kyle Munz
To be honest, the main point of that blog is to remind me what I did in case I have to do it again. If it helps others that's just a bonus. -Kyle On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:23 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: > You deserve it Kyle for taking the time to do a write up. > > On Thu,

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Feeling like Hodor

2015-09-10 Thread Alexander Press
The one autozone lends out is the middle one. I've read decent things about the Titan (last, tapered one). The top one sketches me out a bit as the torque point is off to the side. As far as the torch goes it's propane in a blue bottle. I'll be running it. Going to drop my exhaust and go for

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Feeling like Hodor

2015-09-10 Thread Allen Thomas
The aluminum head is going to act like a big heatsink for that stud, I would give it heat in 30 sec increments with trying to unscrew it in between. On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 3:15 PM, Alexander Press wrote: > The one autozone lends out is the middle one. I've read decent

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Powerless

2015-09-10 Thread Allen Thomas
You deserve it Kyle for taking the time to do a write up. On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:43 PM, Kyle Munz wrote: > Yay, I got a shoutout! > > > -Kyle > > On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 12:49 PM, wrote: > >> ok, here is where I can speak from my Nighthawk experience

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Re: Powerless

2015-09-10 Thread Allen Thomas
I don't have a problem remembering how I did things, just what I did and on which bike. I've been saying I'm going to make a logbook for each bike, but that is just a pipe dream. On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Kyle Munz wrote: > To be honest, the main point of that blog is

RE: [Nighthawk Lovers] Feeling like Hodor

2015-09-10 Thread Greg
Don't forget new exhaust seals. Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone Original message From: Alexander Press Date: 09/10/2015 3:15 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! Subject: Re: [Nighthawk

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] Feeling like Hodor

2015-09-10 Thread Graham Rogers
The middle one Allen tinyurl. On Sep 10, 2015, at 12:32 PM, Allen Thomas wrote: > Graham, which kind did you get? > > This type: > http://c.shld.net/rpx/i/s/i/spin/image/spin_prod_206325301 > > This: > http://tinyurl.com/nrhb8z9 > > Or this: >