Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-19 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Mar 17, 2009, at 11:49 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: Hi, In the process of a major cleanup and code split I uploaded a beta. Some important changes are: - initialization code is ready for upcoming luatex - language files have been cleaned up - core- is renamed to tabl- - several changes in file

Re: [NTG-context] Module taspresent

2009-03-19 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Mar 19, 2009, at 4:50 AM, Curious Learn wrote: \usemodule[taspresent][style=bluegray] BlueGray which is the way it is explained in the manual \starttext A presentation \stoptext Does anyone have an idea why this is h

Re: [NTG-context] Module taspresent

2009-03-19 Thread Lutz Haseloff
Hi Thomas, Hi all, Curious is right, no colors here too, with [style=BlueGray], even with the demo.tex from the module archive. (using last beta 2009.03.18 21:58 MKIV , LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.36.0-2009031820) Greetings Lutz 2009/3/19 Thomas A. Schmitz > > On Mar 19, 2009, at 4:50 AM, Cur

Re: [NTG-context] beta: \abortinputifdefined (mkiv)

2009-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 11:59 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: i removed that one as grepoing didn't have matches; it was meant for some old generic files but i gave up on generic oops, is syst-gen.tex no longer part of the mkiv core? i installed the bet

Re: [NTG-context] Module taspresent

2009-03-19 Thread Lutz Haseloff
Hi all, to be more precise, there seems to be no backgrounds at all. Greetings Lutz 2009/3/19 Lutz Haseloff > Hi Thomas, Hi all, > > Curious is right, no colors here too, with [style=BlueGray], even with > the demo.tex from the module archive. > > (using last beta 2009.03.18 21:58 MKIV , LuaT

Re: [NTG-context] beta: \abortinputifdefined (mkiv)

2009-03-19 Thread Peter Rolf
Hans Hagen schrieb: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Peter Rolf wrote: Hi, my testing yesterday was only limited to a very small test file (overprinting test). i had no problems with that, but any approach with one of my graphics directly ends with ! Undefined con

Re: [NTG-context] beta: \abortinputifdefined (mkiv)

2009-03-19 Thread luigi scarso
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: >>> Dawn, it's hard to keep everything in mind with all your moves and >>> changes. >> >> well, now is the time to do some clean up >> >> did you notice that all table stuff is now unde

Re: [NTG-context] beta: \abortinputifdefined (mkiv)

2009-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Rolf wrote: Hans Hagen schrieb: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Peter Rolf wrote: Hi, my testing yesterday was only limited to a very small test file (overprinting test). i had no problems with that, but any approach with one of my graphics directly ends wi

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Thomas A. Schmitz wrote: On Mar 17, 2009, at 11:49 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: Hi, In the process of a major cleanup and code split I uploaded a beta. Some important changes are: - initialization code is ready for upcoming luatex - language files have been cleaned up - core- is renamed to tabl-

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-19 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Mar 19, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: hm, works ok here i uploaded a new beta ... once this one is installed, successive upgrades (unzipping tmf file) should trigger auto-format generation at a next run ... only tested here Hans Yup, works here too now; thanks! Oh, and it's a v

Re: [NTG-context] beta: \abortinputifdefined (mkiv)

2009-03-19 Thread Peter Rolf
Hans Hagen schrieb: Peter Rolf wrote: Hans Hagen schrieb: Wolfgang Schuster wrote: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 10:24 PM, Peter Rolf wrote: Hi, my testing yesterday was only limited to a very small test file (overprinting test). i had no problems with that, but any approach with one of my grap

Re: [NTG-context] Module taspresent

2009-03-19 Thread Curious Learn
Thanks Thomas and Lutz. Now that I have figured out how to manually install the third party modules, I can try the simpleslides module. Aditya and Thomas, thanks very much for providing us with these modules. Just for information, I wanted to inform you that some other styles, such as blackblue

Re: [NTG-context] Module taspresent

2009-03-19 Thread Thomas A. Schmitz
On Mar 19, 2009, at 9:01 AM, Lutz Haseloff wrote: Hi Thomas, Hi all, Curious is right, no colors here too, with [style=BlueGray], even with the demo.tex from the module archive. (using last beta 2009.03.18 21:58 MKIV , LuaTeX, Version snapshot-0.36.0-2009031820) Greetings Lutz Yes you'

Re: [NTG-context] beta: \abortinputifdefined (mkiv)

2009-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 9:40 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: >> Dawn, it's hard to keep everything in mind with all your moves and >> changes. > > well, now is the time to do some clean up > > did you notice that all table stuff is now under tabl-* ? I did and when I don't where to look grep is my friend :

Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?

2009-03-19 Thread Michael Bynum
Can someone post a link to the actual reference manual rewrite Taco was talking about? I don't see anything on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page#Documentation that looks like a reference manual in progress. Mike On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:00 PM, David Wooten wrote: > > On Mar 17, 2009, a

Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?

2009-03-19 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Michael Bynum wrote: Can someone post a link to the actual reference manual rewrite Taco was talking about? I don't see anything on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page#Documentation that looks like a reference manual in progress. The links are after the big note sayin

Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?

2009-03-19 Thread luigi scarso
There is also, but is still a work-in-progress http://groups.foundry.supelec.fr/modules/ -- luigi ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl

[NTG-context] beta: warning messages

2009-03-19 Thread Peter Rolf
Hi Hans, looks my knowledge of TeX is holey like a Leerdammer. Can you tell me why you fire a warning for already defined, non-global allocated registers? Some of them make sense here but even a grouped (and local allocated) register gives such a warning. warning: \count \OLDpdfcompr

Re: [NTG-context] beta: warning messages

2009-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 19.03.2009 um 15:19 schrieb Peter Rolf: Hi Hans, looks my knowledge of TeX is holey like a Leerdammer. Can you tell me why you fire a warning for already defined, non-global allocated registers? Some of them make sense here but even a grouped (and local allocated) register gives such

Re: [NTG-context] beta: warning messages

2009-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Rolf wrote: Hi Hans, looks my knowledge of TeX is holey like a Leerdammer. Can you tell me why you fire a warning for already defined, non-global allocated registers? Some of them make sense here but even a grouped (and local allocated) register gives such a warning. warning:

Re: [NTG-context] beta: warning messages

2009-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Rolf wrote: Hi Hans, looks my knowledge of TeX is holey like a Leerdammer. Can you tell me why you fire a warning for already defined, non-global allocated registers? Some of them make sense here but even a grouped (and local allocated) register gives such a warning. warning:

Re: [NTG-context] beta: warning messages

2009-03-19 Thread Peter Rolf
Wolfgang Schuster schrieb: Am 19.03.2009 um 15:19 schrieb Peter Rolf: Hi Hans, looks my knowledge of TeX is holey like a Leerdammer. Can you tell me why you fire a warning for already defined, non-global allocated registers? Some of them make sense here but even a grouped (and local alloca

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-19 Thread Yue Wang
{\bf x} in math mode still gives me regular On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 6:49 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > Hi, > > In the process of a major cleanup and code split I uploaded a beta. Some > important changes are: > > - initialization code is ready for upcoming luatex > - language files have been cleaned up

Re: [NTG-context] beta: warning messages

2009-03-19 Thread Peter Rolf
Hans Hagen schrieb: Peter Rolf wrote: Hi Hans, looks my knowledge of TeX is holey like a Leerdammer. Can you tell me why you fire a warning for already defined, non-global allocated registers? Some of them make sense here but even a grouped (and local allocated) register gives such a warnin

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Yue Wang wrote: {\bf x} in math mode still gives me regular if so this is because no bold math alphabet is defined; in mkiv we use the unicode model and bf refers to the bold math alphabet -

Re: [NTG-context] font switching questions

2009-03-19 Thread Alan Stone
On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: >> >> [...] > > ... it's explained in the fonts manual > and in the new ConTeXt manual. The most important thing I understand from reading the fonts manual and the ConTeXt manual's old and new font chapter for the n-th time (lost count), i

Re: [NTG-context] beta: warning messages

2009-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Peter Rolf wrote: \newcount\OLDpdfcompresslevel \def\disablePDFcompression {\bgroup \OLDpdfcompresslevel\pdfcompresslevel \pdfcompresslevel\zerocount\relax} \def\allowPDFcompression {\pdfcompresslevel\OLDpdfcompresslevel\egroup} Wolfgang there are: \def\nopdfcompression {\pdf

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-19 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Hans Hagen wrote: Yue Wang wrote: {\bf x} in math mode still gives me regular if so this is because no bold math alphabet is defined; in mkiv we use the unicode model and bf refers to the bold math alphabet \bi works for math bold italic letters. Symbols need to be wor

Re: [NTG-context] font switching questions

2009-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Alan Stone wrote: Are fonts like men, or like women ? ;O) fonts are simply complex ... - no real consistency (esp in names) - complicted by the fact that we want (in tex) some coherent system - complicated even more by math - and by incomplete fonts - and ... - and ... to some extend luatex

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-19 Thread Hans Hagen
Aditya Mahajan wrote: On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Hans Hagen wrote: Yue Wang wrote: {\bf x} in math mode still gives me regular if so this is because no bold math alphabet is defined; in mkiv we use the unicode model and bf refers to the bold math alphabet \bi works for math bold italic letters.

Re: [NTG-context] font switching questions

2009-03-19 Thread Peter Rolf
Alan Stone schrieb: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:03 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote: [...] ... it's explained in the fonts manual and in the new ConTeXt manual. The most important thing I understand from reading the fonts manual and the ConTeXt manual's old and new font chapter for t

Re: [NTG-context] font switching questions

2009-03-19 Thread Taco Hoekwater
Alan Stone wrote: > > The most important thing I understand from reading the fonts manual > and the ConTeXt manual's old and new font chapter for the n-th time > (lost count), is that explaining fonts and their use is not a piece > cake. As such, every effort in trying to explain it in a way tha

Re: [NTG-context] font switching questions

2009-03-19 Thread Alan Stone
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > > > Alan Stone wrote: >> >> The most important thing I understand from reading the fonts manual >> and the ConTeXt manual's old and new font chapter for the n-th time >> (lost count), is that explaining fonts and their use is not a piece >>

Re: [NTG-context] font switching questions

2009-03-19 Thread Alan Stone
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > Alan Stone wrote: > >> Are fonts like men, or like women ?  ;O) > > fonts are simply complex ... Ok, they're like women then. Alan > - no real consistency (esp in names) > - complicted by the fact that we want (in tex) some coherent system >

Re: [NTG-context] font switching questions

2009-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 18.03.2009 um 16:26 schrieb Alan Stone: On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 9:23 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: (there's also Normal, Bold etc that is even more generic in the sense that it can be sans or serif depending of the situation) Read and understand! % Typescript for Arial \starttypescript [sans

Re: [NTG-context] font switching questions

2009-03-19 Thread George N. White III
On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > Alan Stone wrote: >> >> The most important thing I understand from reading the fonts manual >> and the ConTeXt manual's old and new font chapter for the n-th time >> (lost count), is that explaining fonts and their use is not a piece >> ca

Re: [NTG-context] Step wise presentation.

2009-03-19 Thread Fabrice
Le 09-03-17 à 20:04, Curious Learn a écrit : Currently what is the best solution for presentation with steps in Context that works with the stable version of MKIV. The one that you can get with ./first-setup.sh --context=current If I need to install any addon module for your recommendation

Re: [NTG-context] Step wise presentation.

2009-03-19 Thread Curious Learn
Fabrice gmail.com> writes: > You can use the "raw steps" module. This works very well. You can find > some informations > here: > > http://modules.contextgarden.net/t-rsteps > > Fabrice. > Thanks Fabrice. Yes, I was looking at the demo file yesterday once I figured out how to install third

Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?

2009-03-19 Thread Curious Learn
Aditya Mahajan umich.edu> writes: > > Can someone post a link to the actual reference manual rewrite Taco > > was talking about? I don't see anything on > > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page#Documentation that looks like > > a reference manual in progress. > > The links are after the big

Re: [NTG-context] Is there anything like developer's manual for ConTeXt?

2009-03-19 Thread Aditya Mahajan
On Thu, 19 Mar 2009, Curious Learn wrote: Aditya Mahajan umich.edu> writes: Can someone post a link to the actual reference manual rewrite Taco was talking about? I don't see anything on http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page#Documentation that looks like a reference manual in progress.

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-19 Thread Yanrui Li
2009/3/17 Hans Hagen : > Hi, > > In the process of a major cleanup and code split I uploaded a beta. Some > important changes are: > > - initialization code is ready for upcoming luatex > - language files have been cleaned up > - core- is renamed to tabl- > - several changes in file names and split

Re: [NTG-context] new beta

2009-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
On Tue, Mar 17, 2009 at 11:49 AM, Hans Hagen wrote: > Hi, > > In the process of a major cleanup and code split I uploaded a beta. Some > important changes are: The fallback code for \getcheckedparameter in MkII did not work \def\setvalidparameterkeys{\gobbleparameters} \def\addvalidparameterkeys

[NTG-context] \plusseven

2009-03-19 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Hi Hans, from syst-ini.tex: \chardef\plusseven = 6 \chardef\pluseight = 6 \chardef\plusnine = 6 Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, plea

[NTG-context] Strange interaction between textcolor and backgrounds in mkii

2009-03-19 Thread Aditya Mahajan
Hi Hans, Something has changed recently with the mkii color model, due to which page backgrounds do not change. (I am guessing that this is a grouping issue, but then colors are like a black box to me). Consider the following example \setuppapersize[S6][S6] \setupcolors[state=start] \define