Re: [NTG-context] French typography is back

2009-05-22 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
Hans Hagen a écrit : Robert-André Mauchin wrote: The best would be to get rid off \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation] and adapt the frenchb Babel module from Daniel Flipo (source and explanation here http://daniel.flipo.free.fr/frenchb/ ), as a module (t-french modification),

Re: [NTG-context] French typography is back

2009-05-22 Thread luigi scarso
On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Arthur Reutenauer arthur.reutena...@normalesup.org wrote: but instead of arbitrary adding a 0.25em before and 1em after the punctuation mark you should use the real nnbsp (U+202F) before and real normal space (U+0020) after.

Re: [NTG-context] French typography is back

2009-05-22 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
Le 22/05/2009 17:51, Arthur Reutenauer a écrit : but instead of arbitrary adding a 0.25em before and 1em after the punctuation mark you should use the real nnbsp (U+202F) before and real normal space (U+0020) after. I don't think so. Space characters don't

Re: [NTG-context] French typography is back

2009-05-22 Thread Hans Hagen
luigi scarso wrote: On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 5:51 PM, Arthur Reutenauer arthur.reutena...@normalesup.org wrote: but instead of arbitrary adding a 0.25em before and 1em after the punctuation mark you should use the real nnbsp (U+202F) before and real normal space

Re: [NTG-context] French typography is back

2009-05-22 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
Not knowing the internals, that's what I tried to say with adding a space after instead of 1em, i.e. calculated by the engine. If w an em is added after, it is not stretchable and shrinkable, right? Right. But no particular space is added after '?' or '!' in French punctuation mode, TeX

[NTG-context] French typography is back

2009-05-21 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
Hi again, I have been reading all threads about the French typography in this mailing list, however the current solution is alas far for perfect. The command \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation] was a good idea, but it only deals with spacing. French typography rules not only tells us that

Re: [NTG-context] French typography is back

2009-05-21 Thread Peter Münster
On Thu, 21 May 2009, Robert-André Mauchin wrote: With the current frenchpunctuation command, we got: Production locale indigène ou production romaine importée ? Seems to be a bug. Some months ago, this space was unbreakable as it should. The best would be to get rid off

Re: [NTG-context] French typography is back

2009-05-21 Thread Arthur Reutenauer
and adapt the frenchb Babel module from Daniel Flipo (source and explanation here http://daniel.flipo.free.fr/frenchb/ ), as a module (t-french modification) Contact Sébastien Mengin (sebastien at edilibre.net) about that; he started working on it. Arthur

Re: [NTG-context] French typography is back

2009-05-21 Thread Hans Hagen
Robert-André Mauchin wrote: The best would be to get rid off \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation] and adapt the frenchb Babel module from Daniel Flipo (source and explanation here http://daniel.flipo.free.fr/frenchb/ ), as a module (t-french modification), or when loading the language, but

Re: [NTG-context] French typography is back

2009-05-21 Thread Hans Hagen
Robert-André Mauchin wrote: Hi again, I have been reading all threads about the French typography in this mailing list, however the current solution is alas far for perfect. The command \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation] was a good idea, but it only deals with spacing. French typography

Re: [NTG-context] French typography is back

2009-05-21 Thread Wolfgang Schuster
Am 21.05.2009 um 18:29 schrieb Hans Hagen: Robert-André Mauchin wrote: Hi again, I have been reading all threads about the French typography in this mailing list, however the current solution is alas far for perfect. The command \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation] was a good idea,

Re: [NTG-context] French typography is back

2009-05-21 Thread Robert-André Mauchin
Le 21/05/2009 18:29, Hans Hagen a écrit : \setcharacterspacing[frenchpunctuation] \hsize .1mm a? aa? aaa? ? seems ok here so what version are you using? Ok, I've made test, I stand corrected, it does add a nnbsp, but does not remove the space (if there is) before the punctuation mark.