RE: How to maintain Adobe and Java updates

2012-08-24 Thread David Lum
That reply doesn't make any sense. -Original Message- From: joe user [mailto:joeu...@chronic.org] Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 7:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: How to maintain Adobe and Java updates We use Google Chrome and don't really worry about it. -- Regards,

Re: How to maintain Adobe and Java updates

2012-08-24 Thread joe user
I may be out of the level that you folks operate at. I am a small fry and I have a few sites with less then 50 users. I implemented Google Chrome browser. This allowed me to ditch flash, java, and reader and just use Chrome for all that. Where Google handles the updates itself it gives me less

RE: Windows InTune

2012-08-24 Thread Brian Desmond
It’s actually reasonably straight forward. All of the System Center licensing is now rolled together into one big “management license [ML]”. You either license it for servers or clients. In the case of servers, for virtualization, you would likely want the Datacenter ML on a processor basis

Re: Windows InTune

2012-08-24 Thread Richard Stovall
Thanks very much, Brian. Things have indeed changed quite a bit with the current version and licensing model. I have setup SCVMM 2008 R2 in a test lab before, and I agree that it was simple and straightforward after a surprisingly shallow learning curve. Cheers, Richard Stovall On Fri, Aug 24,

Re: Death of the Desktops?

2012-08-24 Thread Rankin, James R
Can you imagine writing technical documents or doing CAD on a tablet? Sure the percentages may change, but the desktop will not go away anytime soon. It might run on a thin client, but there's still a place for a desktop - even if virtual. Pundits have been predicting things like the death of

Re: Death of the Desktops?

2012-08-24 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote: There are a number of pundits pushing the notion that desktop computing is facing certain death ... Mainframes are dead, minicomputers are dead[1], PDAs are dead, servers are dead, now desktops are dead. How come no one

RE: Laptop with Serial Port?

2012-08-24 Thread Stephen Holtz
Most consumer computers do not come with serial ports while most commercial computers such as OptiPlex's do. Stephen L. Holtz, MCSE, MCT Director of Information Technology Addison Reserve Country Club 7201 Addison Reserve Blvd. Delray Beach, Fl. 33446 Ph: 561-455-1220 Cell: 561-441-0646

Re: Death of the Desktops?

2012-08-24 Thread Kurt Buff
Spreadsheets creation and data entry, page layout, photo processing, writing, presentation creation - those and more are far more difficult on anything without a keyboard and mouse. Kurt On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 9:46 AM, Rankin, James R kz2...@googlemail.com wrote: Can you imagine writing

RE: Laptop with Serial Port?

2012-08-24 Thread David Lum
An Optiplex makes for a lousy laptop :) From: Stephen Holtz [mailto:ste...@addisonreserve.cc] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:37 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Laptop with Serial Port? Most consumer computers do not come with serial ports while most commercial computers such as

RE: Windows InTune

2012-08-24 Thread Art DeKneef
Brian, Don’t you mean you need 3 Datacenter MLs? One for each of the dual socket hosts. Art DeKneef Avanti Computers Mesa, AZ 480-649-4430 Office 480-529-4430 Mobile From: Brian Desmond [mailto:br...@briandesmond.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:50 AM To: NT System Admin

Re: Laptop with Serial Port?

2012-08-24 Thread John Cook
But it will be really easy to work on! John W. Cook Network Operations Manager Partnership for Strong Families From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 01:43 PM To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: Laptop with Serial Port?

RE: Death of the Desktops?

2012-08-24 Thread Greg Olson
The desktop isn’t going anywhere really, it's just evolving. What will probably fade out (except for high-end needs) is the dedicated non-mobile desktop pc. I can easily see were your tablet\phone\whatever has enough processing and graphic power to be sitting in a dock in the office, with full

Re: Death of the Desktops?

2012-08-24 Thread Steve Ens
My newest Elitebook 8570p has a serial port...and a 3rd gen i5 with SSD. It boots in 6 seconds...love it. On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.orgwrote: Yes, desktops are certainly going to be dead. But I think reports of their demise are a very premature.

RE: Death of the Desktops?

2012-08-24 Thread Ben M. Schorr
I agree with Greg. I think there's always (at least for the foreseeable future) going to be a role for desktop machines though I think SOME desktop clients are going to be replaced with docked mobile devices. It may be that 10 years from now most of us are using some sort of tablet that, as

RE: Death of the Desktops?

2012-08-24 Thread Ray Zorz
My son is at the South Dakota School of Mines. Every student has a tablet PC which allows them to do the stylus things as well as the keyboard things. -Original Message- From: Ben M. Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:38 AM To: NT System Admin

RE: Death of the Desktops?

2012-08-24 Thread David Lum
So would that be the laptops getting replaced with tablets and desktops stay largely the same? -Original Message- From: Ben M. Schorr [mailto:b...@rolandschorr.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Death of the Desktops? I agree with Greg.

RE: Death of the Desktops?

2012-08-24 Thread Rod Trent
These initiatives, death of the desktop, cloud, BYOD, etc., etc. are just vendors trying to find new ways to make money. For desktops, in this case, the margins are so slim now, no one is making any money. Look at what Dell is doing with the acquisition of Quest. They have long been a

RE: Death of the Desktops?

2012-08-24 Thread Rod Trent
I see traditional desktops being replaced by a tablet that docks, giving you access to multiple monitors, peripherals, etc. -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 3:00 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Death of the

Re: Death of the Desktops?

2012-08-24 Thread Sean Martin
Seems like a lot of resonses are based off the individual's interpretation of what they mean by stating desktops are going away. Some are inferring this means the adoption of tablets, or some other device without the typical HID (read: non-touch screen). Others seem to infer they're pointing at

Re: Death of the Desktops?

2012-08-24 Thread Rankin, James R
Indeed, desktop PCs vs using a desktop session, which can be delivered myriad ways. Its sometimes a bit pointless trying to predict which way the future of tech usage will go, and easier to concentrate on enabling users to be productive based around how they wish to utilize the tech available

RE: Windows InTune

2012-08-24 Thread Brian Desmond
Yeah – good catch. My Chicago Public Schools math… Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132 From: Art DeKneef [mailto:art.dekn...@cox.net] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 12:59 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Windows InTune Brian, Don’t you

Re: Death of the Desktops?

2012-08-24 Thread Rankin, James R
We use software to deliver the tweaks tailored to the form factor. Its fairly expensive but does the job if you can justify it. The users find it invaluable as the desktop/apps basically self-configure to the device connecting. ---Blackberried -Original Message- From: N Parr

Re: Laptop with Serial Port?

2012-08-24 Thread Ben Scott
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 12:42 PM, Roger Wright rhw...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone have a recommendation for a 12-14 laptop with a serial port? We have some field staff who require serial connections for monitoring equipment, and the USB/serial adapters don't always work. My recommendation is to

RE: Laptop with Serial Port?

2012-08-24 Thread Brian Desmond
I have a 15.4” Elitebook that I carry in my backpack anytime I’m on the road. It’s really not that bad and I can actually get some work done on it. For me at least, the tiny keyboards and low res screens are really annoying. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.com w – 312.625.1438 | c –

Re: Death of the Desktops?

2012-08-24 Thread MMF
True, but you can attach mouse and keyboard to tablets! Face facts, at the beginning, the desktop unit was a desktop unit. Then they started putting the monster on the floor UNDER the desk. Then came servers and a large hard disk in a desktop was almost unnecessary. Then along came laptops,

RE: Laptop with Serial Port?

2012-08-24 Thread James Hill
Very true. I've had good results with Aten's http://www.aten.com/products/productItem.php?model_no=UC232A on 32 and 64bit OS's. James. From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org] Sent: Saturday, 25 August 2012 3:25 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Laptop with Serial Port? I

RE: Death of the Desktops?

2012-08-24 Thread James Hill
This man sees and speaks the truth. -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Saturday, 25 August 2012 5:09 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Death of the Desktops? These initiatives, death of the desktop, cloud, BYOD, etc., etc. are just vendors

RE: Laptop with Serial Port?

2012-08-24 Thread Mathew Shember
+1 on that suggestion. I think I had a Belkin before but it would only work with a 32 bit OS. When I went to 64; they said I needed to purchase the 64 bit version. From: James Hill [mailto:falc...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 1:57 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Laptop

RE: Death of the Desktops?

2012-08-24 Thread Jon Harris
Personally I would not look with favor on walking into a bank and seeing the tellers using any kind of portable device to look things up on the central machine, be it mainframe, mini, or server. I feel the same way about a lot of governemt offices as well. Would you trust people that are

RE: Death of the Desktops?

2012-08-24 Thread Michael B. Smith
That's just a convertible. IMO. -Original Message- From: Rod Trent [mailto:rodtr...@myitforum.com] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 3:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Death of the Desktops? I see traditional desktops being replaced by a tablet that docks, giving you access to

Re: Laptop with Serial Port?

2012-08-24 Thread Richard Stovall
I've used the one widely available at Radio Shack on a number of occasions and it has worked flawlessly on both 32 bit XP and 64 bit Win 7. It also has a nice long cable for reaching the backs of switches and whatnot. On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 7:24 PM, Mathew Shember mathew.shem...@synopsys.com

RE: Windows InTune

2012-08-24 Thread Ken Schaefer
For small(er), centralised, environments, SCVMM 2008 is reasonably good. It has limitations in managing non-domain hosts. It has limitations working across WANs (e.g. library functions are pretty useless). 2FA systems can have issues with the server console view that it presents. It has limited

RE: OT : Humor only an Admin can enjoy.

2012-08-24 Thread Ken Schaefer
You work in IT admin - passwords are something you deal with every day. Probably bank tellers have few(er) issues remembering multiple bank account numbers, but I think that most people would struggle to remember more than 5. Luckily most of us doesn't have 5 bank account numbers we need to

Re: OT : Humor only an Admin can enjoy.

2012-08-24 Thread Kurt Buff
On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:57 PM, Ken Schaefer k...@adopenstatic.com wrote: You work in IT admin - passwords are something you deal with every day. And so do all who have more than one online account for most anything. Probably bank tellers have few(er) issues remembering multiple bank account

RE: OT : Humor only an Admin can enjoy.

2012-08-24 Thread Ken Schaefer
I disagree. Car manufacturers have been constantly finding ways to make our driving experience safer, and less stressful. Whilst it still requires some level of co-ordination, skill and concentration to drive a car, it is far safer and far easier to drive a car now than at any time in the