RE: Defrag: is it necessary for NTFS?

2001-08-27 Thread Ivan von Winlamerberg
--- Benjamin Scott <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 24 Aug 2001, Ivan von Winlamerberg wrote: > > By definition term "Fragmentation" doesn't apply to a > journalling FS. > > I am curious as to what definition(s) of "fragmentation" or > "journalling" > that statement is true. All a journal

RE: RE: Defrag: is it necessary for NTFS?

2001-08-27 Thread RZorz
Title: RE: RE: Defrag: is it necessary for NTFS? I haven't as yet defragged my servers, which probably need it more than my desktops. But I can definitely tell when I log into a desktop that needs defragging.   I can hear the drives churning.  Desktops are all nt4 w/ ntfs. -Ori

Re:RE: Defrag: is it necessary for NTFS?

2001-08-27 Thread Ralph Davis
an half the previous time to open the same files. ralph Reply Separator____ Subject: RE: Defrag: is it necessary for NTFS? Author: NT System Admin Issues <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 08/27/2001 2:22 PM but when the drives get full, the whole systems bo

RE: Defrag: is it necessary for NTFS?

2001-08-27 Thread Erich Voigt
space to operate in. Erich -Original Message- From: Josu Lekaroz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 27, 2001 2:16 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Defrag: is it necessary for NTFS? Maybe the benefits exist but I have never had to defrag a drive on NT. Perhaps someone

Re: Defrag: is it necessary for NTFS?

2001-08-27 Thread Josu Lekaroz
uot;NT System Admin Issues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 11:45 PM Subject: RE: Defrag: is it necessary for NTFS? > > --- "Andrew S. Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > File fragmentation has a negative impact on performance, because

RE: Defrag: is it necessary for NTFS?

2001-08-25 Thread Ivan von Winlamerberg
--- "Andrew S. Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Defragging is necessary and can easily be proven. > > Anyone on this list who has defragged a heavily fragmented > disk/partition can attest to this. thanx. = <--65---> This email is

RE: Defrag: is it necessary for NTFS?

2001-08-25 Thread Bill Kuhn - MCSE
: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 4:56 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Defrag: is it necessary for NTFS? Defragging is necessary and can easily be proven. Anyone on this list who has defragged a heavily fragmented disk/partition can atte

RE: Defrag: is it necessary for NTFS?

2001-08-25 Thread Andrew S. Baker
== "If it jams -- force it. It needed replacing anyway." >-Original Message- >From: Ivan von Winlamerberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2001 5:46 PM >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: RE: Defrag:

RE: Defrag: is it necessary for NTFS?

2001-08-25 Thread Ivan von Winlamerberg
--- "Andrew S. Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > File fragmentation has a negative impact on performance, because > it > makes reading files much much harder. > > Regular defragmentation allows the drive and the OS to make > better use > of caching for file reads, among other things. OK, than

RE: Defrag: is it necessary for NTFS?

2001-08-25 Thread Andrew S. Baker
st 25, 2001 1:28 AM >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: RE: Defrag: is it necessary for NTFS? > > > >--- "Andrew S. Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> What would journaling have to do with Fragmentation? > >Thank you for correcting me. The question wa

RE: Defrag: is it necessary for NTFS?

2001-08-24 Thread Ivan von Winlamerberg
--- "Andrew S. Baker" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What would journaling have to do with Fragmentation? Thank you for correcting me. The question was incorrect. So, why do we worry about all those de-fraggers? I saw all those post about scheduling the defrag... it's not that I know in depth abo

RE: Defrag: is it necessary for NTFS?

2001-08-24 Thread Andrew S. Baker
August 24, 2001 10:40 PM >To: NT System Admin Issues >Subject: Defrag: is it necessary for NTFS? > > >NTFS is a journalling FS, so why defrag at all? > >Sorry for a lame q'n. > >Unless it's not really a journalling FS... http://www.sunbelt-software.com/ntsysadmin_list_charter.htm

Defrag: is it necessary for NTFS?

2001-08-24 Thread Ivan von Winlamerberg
NTFS is a journalling FS, so why defrag at all? Sorry for a lame q'n. Unless it's not really a journalling FS... = <--65---> This email is intended to be received by the intended recipient only. If the sender misdirected this email to

RE: Defrag: is it necessary for NTFS?

2001-08-24 Thread David N. Precht
Doesnt remove the "white space" in the FS ? -Original Message- From: Ivan von Winlamerberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, August 24, 2001 22:40 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Defrag: is it necessary for NTFS? NTFS is a journalling FS, so why defrag at all? S