I always have vendors produce the documentation they're using to calculate
the ROI, or provide me with an ROI calculator for getting business buy-in.
It's one of the things they need to be able to do, if they're going to go
around making interesting claims about business benefit.
*ASB *(My XeeSM
Dang, and all I got was a stainless steel coffee mug and a shirt.
*sigh*
From: Amit Hanji [mailto:amit.ha...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Calculating SAN TCO?
Hello my friend,
I have to be having an most special method
Who suggested there was only one thing?
-sc
From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Calculating SAN TCO?
That's not what you find catchy.
- WJR
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 13:26, Ste
I think singing predates sponge bob...
-sc
From: Doug Hampshire [mailto:dhampsh...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 2:28 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Calculating SAN TCO?
She stole the idea from Sponge Bob.
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:26 PM, Steven M
Thanks Don, appreciate that. I have those points covered thankfully (at least
with the vendors who have visited so far). I suspect I'll end up sat in front
of Excel tomorrow trying to come up with some figures for some different change
scenarios over 3-4 years between a couple of the key conte
Sent:* Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:38 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: Calculating SAN TCO?
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>
>
> Is this misspelling of girls like when they change the spelling of crab to
> krab? Cause I'm not big on imitation anything. :)
>
>
ednesday, September 29, 2010 1:38 PM
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re: Calculating SAN TCO?
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>
> Is this misspelling of girls like when they change the spelling of crab to
> krab? Cause I'm not big on imitation anything. :)
>
> - WJR
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>
Substance abuse?
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:14 PM, Don Ely wrote:
> I try to provide substance every once in awhile...
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> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Jonathan Link
> wrote:
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>> What a mensch!
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>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Don Ely wrote:
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>>> Oh good grief, here's a list for
Desire to be helpful?
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:23 AM, William Robbins wrote:
> Those can be a bother. Sorry about your...well you know.
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> - WJR
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> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 13:21, Don Ely wrote:
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>> After the side effects of the pills took over...
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>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:17
It's in honor of Ms.Perry... whom, by the way, I think sings a dang
catchy tune.
-sc
From: William Robbins [mailto:dangerw...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:38 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Calculating SAN TCO?
Is this misspelling of girls like when
Those can be a bother. Sorry about your...well you know.
- WJR
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 13:21, Don Ely wrote:
> After the side effects of the pills took over...
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:17 AM, William Robbins wrote:
>
>> When did that start?
>>
>> - WJR
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>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 29, 20
After the side effects of the pills took over...
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:17 AM, William Robbins wrote:
> When did that start?
>
> - WJR
>
>
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> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 13:14, Don Ely wrote:
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>> I try to provide substance every once in awhile...
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>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Jonat
When did that start?
- WJR
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 13:14, Don Ely wrote:
> I try to provide substance every once in awhile...
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Jonathan Link
> wrote:
>
>> What a mensch!
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>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Don Ely wrote:
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>>> Oh good grief, here's
I try to provide substance every once in awhile...
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:08 AM, Jonathan Link wrote:
> What a mensch!
>
> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Don Ely wrote:
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>> Oh good grief, here's a list for starters...
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>>
>>- Look at inititial cost for the hardware, this part shou
" I think the "magic spreadsheet" was wishful thinking..."
Kudos to you for getting there in less than 18 months.
- WJR
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 13:04, Paul Hutchings wrote:
> Oh I'm asking all of that and compiling numbers and making sure I have like
> for like costs for support, are license
If you have an environment where you're regularly asked to provide 5 TB with
little notice, the TCO of a SAN should be the least of your worries. More
to the point, I'd think this would've already been calculated.
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Paul Hutchings
wrote:
> Oh I'm asking all of tha
What a mensch!
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 2:06 PM, Don Ely wrote:
> Oh good grief, here's a list for starters...
>
>
>- Look at inititial cost for the hardware, this part should be simple
>- The cost of support annually, you'll want annual maintenance and it
>would serve you well to kno
Oh I'm asking all of that and compiling numbers and making sure I have like for
like costs for support, are license perpetual or model specific and so on, so
I'd like to think I have all that covered.
My question was more how you then "track" vendor A's figures against vendor B's
figures for an
Oh good grief, here's a list for starters...
- Look at inititial cost for the hardware, this part should be simple
- The cost of support annually, you'll want annual maintenance and it
would serve you well to know what those costs are long term
- Scalability for your environment, sinc
You're missing my point. Let me explain. No there's not time, let me sum
up.
This is a question that can't be answered by the list. We don't know your
environment, and even it you relayed every detail, we aren't there. Going
to the vendors and getting their ownership materials would be a good
s
Jonathan, relatively new yet but I know it's a bit of a sticking point and I've
no intention of this being a "what SAN" thread, however the cheapest to buy
isn't necessarily the cheapest over a longer term - that's what I'm asking, how
the heck do you begin to try and work the long term costs ou
: RE: Calculating SAN TCO?
Yeah... I'm going back to the drawing board and going to try and get
authorization to hire a consultant to help figure out what we *need* instead of
what's "sexy" or what I *think* we need. :-) As you know, an "expert" is
someone
se. ;-)
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:37 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Calculating SAN TCO?
Are you new to this list? We've recently wrapped up (fingers crossed) an 18
month saga. There's a lot of apathy out here on
.@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:31 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: Calculating SAN TCO?
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> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:28 AM, John Hornbuckle <
> john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us>
Are you new to this list? We've recently wrapped up (fingers crossed) an 18
month saga. There's a lot of apathy out here on the subject of SANs.
That being said. TCO has many components besides purchase price. You need
to consider SLA's and how it fits into your environment. Since you didn't
California Gurls.
-sc
From: Don Ely [mailto:don@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:31 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Calculating SAN TCO?
They're squiggly gurls...
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 10:28 AM, John Hornbuckle
wrote:
You make an excellent arg
They love you long time!
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Systems Administrator
Partnership for Strong Families
From: John Hornbuckle
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Wed Sep 29 13:28:04 2010
Subject: RE: Calculating SAN TCO?
You make an excellent argument for EMC. But then again
tter be VERY special and VERY pretty.
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> *From:* Amit Hanji [mailto:amit.ha...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Wednesday
...@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 1:20 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Calculating SAN TCO?
Hello my friend,
I have to be having an most special method for the selecting of SAN's. And this
method be working for most different IT things as well. Since TCO's
I am now recommending SANs for all my clients.
Amit Hanji wrote:
Hello my friend,
I have to be having an most special method for the selecting of SAN's.
And this method be working for most different IT things as well. Since
TCO's from their selves are almost being wrong and lies, I buy from
Hello my friend,
I have to be having an most special method for the selecting of SAN's. And
this method be working for most different IT things as well. Since TCO's
from their selves are almost being wrong and lies, I buy from best vendor
with most good swag. Golf and diiner eating are very special
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