RE: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

2009-09-23 Thread Alverson, Tom (Xetron)
: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 12:13 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup) On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron) tom.alver...@ngc.com wrote: I'm wondering why they have not done

RE: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

2009-09-23 Thread Alverson, Tom (Xetron)
). -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 2:18 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup) On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: It promises

RE: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

2009-09-21 Thread Alverson, Tom (Xetron)
I'm wondering why they have not done this yet as well. Using more that 2 heads in parallel would at some point be enough to saturate existing SATA interfaces. There is no way they could do 8 heads in parallel and have enough bandwidth (even with 3.0 Gbit/sec SATA) to prevent saturating the SATA

RE: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

2009-09-21 Thread Alverson, Tom (Xetron)
Message- From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 11:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup) I have to agree with Ben here. If it were easy to do, it would have been done already. I suspect

Re: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

2009-09-21 Thread Scott Kaufman
I'm very curious as to when did harddrive manufacturers swich to having independently operating heads? Is this a new development that I missed? For as long as I can remember, the heads (regardless of how many there are) are operated by a single head motor. So while it can interleave data across

RE: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

2009-09-21 Thread Miguel Gonzalez
But this info is not in the specs of thee HD isn't it? So how do you know that is actually that fast before buying it? Miguel --- El lun, 21/9/09, Alverson, Tom (Xetron) tom.alver...@ngc.com escribió: De: Alverson, Tom (Xetron) tom.alver...@ngc.com Asunto: RE: Hard disk technology (was: Disk

RE: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

2009-09-21 Thread Alverson, Tom (Xetron)
The heads are all locked together. There is no need to have them move independently. From: Scott Kaufman [mailto:bskauf...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup) I'm very curious

RE: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

2009-09-21 Thread Ken Schaefer
Issues Subject: RE: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup) The heads are all locked togethe There is no need to have them move independently. From: Scott Kaufman [mailto:bskauf...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, September 21, 2009 11:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Hard disk

Re: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

2009-09-21 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:17 AM, Scott Kaufman bskauf...@gmail.com wrote: So while it can interleave data across multiple platters, all the heads would still be at the same location on the platters. In a sequential read or write operation, by interleaving data across the platters (actually,

Re: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

2009-09-21 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Alverson, Tom (Xetron) tom.alver...@ngc.com wrote: I'm wondering why they have not done this yet as well. Using more that 2 heads in parallel would at some point be enough to saturate existing SATA interfaces. Unless they *are* already doing it, and the

Re: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

2009-09-21 Thread Ben Scott
On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Sam Cayze sam.ca...@rollouts.com wrote: It promises a sustained transfer rate of just 140MBps ... I presume they mean 140 Mbyte/sec, which is 1140 Mbit/sec (ignoring overhead). In other words, it can't even saturate first-generation SATA (1500 Mbit/sec), let

RE: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

2009-09-21 Thread Sam Cayze
Related: http://www.engadget.com/2009/09/21/seagate-2tb-barracuda-xt-worlds-first -sata-6gbps-hard-drive/ Haven't been following the thread, but just saw this on Engadget. Ready for this speed freaks? Seagate just announced the world's first 2TB disk with full support for the third generation

RE: Hard disk technology (was: Disk based backup)

2009-09-17 Thread Ken Schaefer
I have to agree with Ben here. If it were easy to do, it would have been done already. I suspect the improved bus speeds will help devices that aren't current spinning disks (maybe flash based drives), or where we are able to present an array of disks at the end of the bus (e.g. external