RE: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-20 Thread Tobie Fysh
dary storage two for long term archiving. Tobie From: Bob Fronk [mailto:b...@btrfronk.com] Sent: 19 April 2012 19:26 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS DPM Opinions I have been using DPM for about two years now. No complaints. I do not use removable media, so I cannot comment on those p

Re: UAG, was Re: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread Kurt Buff
call them > idiot lights for a reason. ;-D > John W. Cook > Systems Administrator > Partnership for Strong Families > > - Original Message - > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > Sent: Friday, April 20, 2012 12:45 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > S

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2012-04-19 Thread John Cook
System Admin Issues Subject: Re: UAG, was Re: MS DPM Opinions How long do you ignore the check engine light on your dash? :) On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 21:28, John Cook wrote: > Well if it ain't broke don't fix it! ;-) > John W. Cook > Systems Administrator > Partnersh

Re: UAG, was Re: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread Kurt Buff
From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 11:54 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: UAG, was Re: MS DPM Opinions > > Not much... > > I'm looking at logs and such, and coming up with no answers. > > It works, in spite of

Re: UAG, was Re: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread John Cook
Well if it ain't broke don't fix it! ;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families - Original Message - From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 11:54 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: UAG, was Re: MS DPM Opinions

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2012-04-19 Thread Kurt Buff
. Cook > Systems Administrator > Partnership for Strong Families > > - Original Message - > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 07:01 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: MS DPM Opinions > > If we investigate that

Re: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread John Cook
Hey Kurt, whatever happened with your UAG issue? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership for Strong Families - Original Message - From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 07:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS DPM Opinions If we

Re: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 5:01 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: MS DPM Opinions > > I understand that there's a paradumb shift [sic], and that we'll have some > re-thinking to do. We had TSM in-house, and it's a l

Re: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread Kurt Buff
, > Brian Desmond > br...@briandesmond.com > > w – 312.625.1438 | c   – 312.731.3132 > > > -Original Message- > From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 5:01 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: MS DPM Opinions &g

RE: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread Brian Desmond
Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 5:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS DPM Opinions I understand that there's a paradumb shift [sic], and that we'll have some re-thinking to do. We had TSM in-house, and it's a lot closer to DPM than it is to Ultrabac. So, generally sp

Re: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread Andrew S. Baker
say that? I have used it to “backup” and “restore” for years > now with no issues at all. > > Tim > > ** ** > > *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:28 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: MS D

Re: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread Kurt Buff
nt: Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:08 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: Re: MS DPM Opinions > > To further this conversation - what multiple of disk space does DPM have > available vs. the disk consumed in production, and what kind of history do > you keep? > >

RE: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread jesse-r...@wi.rr.com
ssage: - From: Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2012 17:36:14 + To: ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Subject: RE: MS DPM Opinions I really like it, very great use of space. Easy to use once you understand what it is doing. My only gripe is it won'

RE: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread Kennedy, Jim
To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS DPM Opinions That's not the way it works. :-P DPM originally makes a bit-for-bit copy of the "thing" to be backed up. After that, only changed blocks are backed up. That's on disk. Generally, I see 50-60 generations of files being

RE: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread Michael B. Smith
image but that's not really the way DPM is designed to work. It takes a slightly different perspective than traditional backup products. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 3:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS DPM

Re: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread James Kerr
Thanks Bob, I may take you up on that offer. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Bob Fronk wrote: > I have been using DPM for about two years now. No complaints. I do not > use removable media, so I cannot comment on those posts. (I use a > secondary DPM server at another geographic site to ass

Re: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread James Kerr
Excellent, thanks for the response. We will be backing up to a DL120 with 8TB of storage (enough to backup all our environment), our offsite backups go to EVault. We will have a tape drive on the server to do tape backups for monthly archiving. I can't wait to try this out. I'm sick of doing daily

RE: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
Why do you say that? I have used it to "backup" and "restore" for years now with no issues at all. Tim From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS DPM Opinions DPM is not really a &qu

Re: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread Andrew S. Baker
DPM is not really a "backup" product. -ASB: http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Sent from my Motorola Droid RAZR On Apr 19, 2012 2:27 PM, "Ben Scott" wrote: > On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Kennedy, Jim > wrote: > > Removable seems to be a no no with DPM > > Trust Microsoft to produce a backup pr

Re: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread Kurt Buff
To further this conversation - what multiple of disk space does DPM have available vs. the disk consumed in production, and what kind of history do you keep? We're contemplating moving from Ultrabac and a tape robot to DPM, and are currently doing a standard Grandparent/Parent/Child tape rotation

RE: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread Bob Fronk
I have been using DPM for about two years now. No complaints. I do not use removable media, so I cannot comment on those posts. (I use a secondary DPM server at another geographic site to assure offsite backup of the primary DPM server) If you have specific questions, you know a couple ways

Re: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread Ben Scott
On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Kennedy, Jim wrote: > Removable seems to be a no no with DPM Trust Microsoft to produce a backup product that doesn't support removable media. -- Ben ~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~ ~

Re: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread Jonathan Link
sday, April 19, 2012 1:57 PM > > *To:* 'NT System Admin Issues' > *Subject:* RE: MS DPM Opinions > > ** ** > > Pretty sure that is a fail also. Removable seems to be a no no with DPM*** > * > > ** ** > > *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l

RE: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Looks bad. http://www.idealstor.com/blog/index.php/2011/11/microsoft-dpm-with-removable-disk-backup/ From: Kennedy, Jim Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:57 PM To: 'NT System Admin Issues' Subject: RE: MS DPM Opinions Pretty sure that is a fail also. Removable seems to be a no no with

RE: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Pretty sure that is a fail also. Removable seems to be a no no with DPM From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:49 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS DPM Opinions What about RDX? On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Kennedy, Jim

Re: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread Jonathan Link
What about RDX? On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 1:36 PM, Kennedy, Jim wrote: > I really like it, very great use of space. Easy to use once you > understand what it is doing. My only gripe is it won’t use USB attached > Hard Drives. > > ** ** > > *From:* James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] > *Se

RE: MS DPM Opinions

2012-04-19 Thread Kennedy, Jim
I really like it, very great use of space. Easy to use once you understand what it is doing. My only gripe is it won't use USB attached Hard Drives. From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 1:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: MS DPM Opinions Heh, any

RE: MS DPM - data protection manager

2009-11-17 Thread Richard Stovall
Ask the librarian? -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 2:46 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS DPM - data protection manager "Open Sesame!" -Original Message- From: Phil Thompson

RE: MS DPM - data protection manager

2009-11-17 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
"Open Sesame!" -Original Message- From: Phil Thompson [mailto:ph...@wpiinc.com] Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 1:29 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: MS DPM - data protection manager How the heck do you unlock a library door? I've tried the code below in every possible combinatio

RE: MS DPM

2009-01-27 Thread Ken Schaefer
The File Transfer Manager uses BITS (which supports resuming downloads with a >4GB offset) Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Wednesday, 28 January 2009 7:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS DPM No BITS functionality l

RE: MS DPM

2009-01-27 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
Be careful what you wish for. ;-) -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 2:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS DPM No BITS functionality like updates? John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong

RE: MS DPM

2009-01-27 Thread John Cook
Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 3:32 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS DPM Some of the downloads that Microsoft puts out on their Volume Licensing sites as well as TechNet and MSDN are so large that they won't allow download with any browser.

RE: MS DPM

2009-01-27 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
rough. TVK -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 2:20 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS DPM I love seeing this while initiating a download "*The web browser you are currently using is unable to support this downlo

RE: MS DPM

2009-01-27 Thread John Cook
es Subject: RE: MS DPM Using Enterprise licenses definitely has ramifications. The DPM licenses for Enterprise edition cost significantly more than licenses to backup Standard servers. TVK -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 12:52

RE: MS DPM

2009-01-27 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS DPM We have the Datacenter license as well for all our virtualized servers. However, we still run the standard Windows Server on 95% of or systems. Licensing lasts you so long and then it might change. We run the Enterprise Edition on our domain controllers and

Re: MS DPM

2009-01-27 Thread Steven Peck
hn.c...@pfsf.org] > Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:30 AM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: MS DPM > > > > We're a non-profit, the Datacenter license was ridiculously cheap. I was not > aware of the option to use lesser versions, thx for the info. > > > &g

RE: MS DPM

2009-01-27 Thread Tim Vander Kooi
. The fact that I don't want to waste a DC license to install DPM doesn't mean that I don't to back up other apps that may be running there. TVK From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:30 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS DPM We'r

RE: MS DPM

2009-01-27 Thread John Cook
-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 10:24 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS DPM No, I know that you are right. The point is that you can run an unlimited number of Windows Server

Re: MS DPM

2009-01-27 Thread Anders Blomgren
44* > > *Fax (352) 393-2746* > > *MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+* > > > > *From:* Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:52 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: MS DPM > > > > Sure they di

RE: MS DPM

2009-01-27 Thread Michael B. Smith
org] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 10:16 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS DPM Because unless I was seriously misled by my software reseller I can run an unlimited number of copies of Datacenter in VM off the single copy I purchased. Anyone that KNOWS (as opposed to thinks) differ

RE: MS DPM

2009-01-27 Thread John Cook
315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Anders Blomgren [mailto:chanks...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:52 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: MS DPM Sure they did. A

Re: MS DPM

2009-01-27 Thread Anders Blomgren
change.com] > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:28 AM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* RE: MS DPM > > > > This is because DPM is intended to be run on a dedicated server. The > designers could not imagine that someone would "waste" a data-center license

RE: MS DPM

2009-01-27 Thread John Cook
: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 9:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS DPM This is because DPM is intended to be run on a dedicated server. The designers could not imagine that someone would "waste" a data-center lic

RE: MS DPM

2009-01-27 Thread Michael B. Smith
gs/michael I'll be at TEC'2009! http://www.tec2009.com/vegas/index.php From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 9:17 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS DPM I'm investigating. I suspect I know why, but I'll

RE: MS DPM

2009-01-26 Thread Michael B. Smith
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 8:58 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS DPM (Hijacking thread) As a side note I found out something very disturbing about DPM - it's not supported on 2008 Datacenter Edition, it won't even install. Why it wi

RE: MS DPM

2009-01-26 Thread John Cook
ailto:mich...@theessentialexchange.com] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2009 8:28 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: MS DPM (tongue in cheek) With all that information, I'll give you a definite: maybe. If you can see it on a Windows server, then DPM can "recognize" it. That doesn't mean that DPM wil

RE: MS DPM

2009-01-26 Thread Michael B. Smith
(tongue in cheek) With all that information, I'll give you a definite: maybe. If you can see it on a Windows server, then DPM can "recognize" it. That doesn't mean that DPM will be able to do anything other than a normal non-smart backup to it, if it doesn't support either open file agents