Re: OT: MCM certification

2013-02-18 Thread ANDREW F OFALT
wrote: If it’s going to be competing with the cost of a college degree it’s crazy. From: Ken Schaefer [mailto: k...@adopenstatic.com ] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: MCM certification I suppose one issue is that for every

Re: OT: MCM certification

2013-02-18 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Subject: RE: OT: MCM certification I suppose one issue is that for every person that says “$20,000 is too much, it should be $10,000 and lots more people would do it”, there’s another person that will say “$10,000 is too much, it should be $5,000 and lots more people would do it”, and so

RE: OT: MCM certification

2013-02-18 Thread Crawford, Scott
Plus, it sounds like there's a fair bit of bureaucracy being paid for for that 135. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Andrew S. Baker Sent: 2/18/2013 5:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: MCM certification I doubt that they get 1000s of applications

RE: OT: MCM certification

2013-02-15 Thread Ray
If it’s going to be competing with the cost of a college degree it’s crazy. From: Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:28 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: MCM certification I suppose one issue is that for every person that says

Re: OT: MCM certification

2013-02-15 Thread Andrew S. Baker
AM, Ray rz...@qwest.net wrote: If it’s going to be competing with the cost of a college degree it’s crazy. ** ** *From:* Ken Schaefer [mailto:k...@adopenstatic.com] *Sent:* Thursday, February 14, 2013 3:28 PM *To:* NT System Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: OT: MCM certification

Re: OT: MCM certification

2013-02-14 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Chris, if you look at who that certification is targeting, the ROI is very, very straightforward. Lowering the price wouldn't lower the barrier that much, and the cost of the overall process must come from somewhere. *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker*

Re: OT: MCM certification

2013-02-14 Thread Christopher Bodnar
:Re: OT: MCM certification Chris, if you look at who that certification is targeting, the ROI is very, very straightforward. Lowering the price wouldn't lower the barrier that much, and the cost of the overall process must come from somewhere. ASB http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker Providing

RE: OT: MCM certification

2013-02-14 Thread Ken Schaefer
[mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Friday, 15 February 2013 7:45 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: MCM certification Don't want to keep on this thread, it's obvious that most of you are in disagreement with me. I'm OK with that. But to your comment: I think I get who

RE: OT: MCM certification

2013-02-14 Thread Crawford, Scott
:45 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: MCM certification Don't want to keep on this thread, it's obvious that most of you are in disagreement with me. I'm OK with that. But to your comment: I think I get who the certification is targeting. My point is that I think there is a larger

Re: OT: MCM certification

2013-02-14 Thread Andrew S. Baker
...@gmail.com To:NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date:02/14/2013 02:59 PM Subject:Re: OT: MCM certification -- Chris, if you look at who that certification is targeting, the ROI is very, very straightforward

RE: OT: MCM certification

2013-02-14 Thread Brian Desmond
: Re: OT: MCM certification Don't want to keep on this thread, it's obvious that most of you are in disagreement with me. I'm OK with that. But to your comment: I think I get who the certification is targeting. My point is that I think there is a larger population out there that might be interested

Re: OT: MCM certification

2013-02-13 Thread Kurt Buff
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: Was reading this yesterday: http://blogs.metcorpconsulting.com/tech/?p=1101 And got to thinking about this again. It still bothers me that the road to this certification is artificially blocked by

RE: OT: MCM certification

2013-02-13 Thread Michael B. Smith
[mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:38 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: OT: MCM certification On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: Was reading this yesterday: http://blogs.metcorpconsulting.com/tech/?p

Re: OT: MCM certification

2013-02-13 Thread Christopher Bodnar
10:38 AM Subject:Re: OT: MCM certification On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: Was reading this yesterday: http://blogs.metcorpconsulting.com/tech/?p=1101 And got to thinking about this again. It still bothers me that the road

RE: OT: MCM certification

2013-02-13 Thread Christopher Bodnar
System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Date: 02/13/2013 10:47 AM Subject:RE: OT: MCM certification Microsoft loses money on the Exchange MCM classes. I suspect they do for all of the MCM tracks. The fee is to ensure that only serious people apply plus to cover the cost

RE: OT: MCM certification

2013-02-13 Thread Michael B. Smith
[mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:57 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: MCM certification Not sure I agree with that. The fee is to ensure that only serious people apply If you kept everything else the same, all requirements,tests, labs, etc and lowered

Re: OT: MCM certification

2013-02-13 Thread Kurt Buff
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: No I do not think they are free to administer. Nor do I claim they should be free. I take exception to the fact that they seem to be artificially inflated. Just my opinion. While I agree that $14k is a lot

RE: OT: MCM certification

2013-02-13 Thread Ken Schaefer
There can't be that many 750K seat Exchange deployments out there. Do they mean 75K? Cheers Ken -Original Message- From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com] Sent: Thursday, 14 February 2013 2:47 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: OT: MCM certification Microsoft