I was more commenting in the laziness of people.
-sc
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 2:01 PM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: The end of the BIOS is nigh...
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> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010
Don't forget 12/21/2012...
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 1:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: The end of the BIOS is nigh...
What about the 2038 problem?
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
On Fri,
From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 2:13 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: The end of the BIOS is nigh...
What about the 2038 problem?
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Steven M. Caes
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Jonathan Link wrote:
> What about the 2038 problem?
That's a somewhat different beast.
Y2K is mainly a human factors problem, as it's humans who like
two-digit years, not computers. (Contrary to popular belief, data
storage capacity was *not* the big contribu
What about the 2038 problem?
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 2:01 PM, Ben Scott wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Steven M. Caesare
> wrote:
> >> It's interesting to note that Y2K bugs keep happening, even in
> >> entirely new code. It's amazing how many programmers just don't
> >> expect use
You think people will be reading the archives of this list in the around
year 3000?
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From: "Ben Scott"
To: "NT System Admin Issues"
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: The end of the BIOS is nigh...
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 a
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 12:10 PM, Steven M. Caesare wrote:
>> It's interesting to note that Y2K bugs keep happening, even in
>> entirely new code. It's amazing how many programmers just don't
>> expect users to enter a two-digit year, or assume tm.tm_year is the
>> current year not -1900, or wha
However, the universal reply is always "Byte me"
From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 12:29 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: The end of the BIOS is nigh...
Awesome.
Down in the south it's "Hey, Bubba. Git to pec
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From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 1:12 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: The end of the BIOS is
I always found it amusing when my northern counterparts pronounce it as by-ause.
Freakin' Yankees :)
Shook
From: Paul Gordon [mailto:paul_gor...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 12:30 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: The end of the BIOS is nigh...
But how wi
fee? or how
> about ?you-ay-fee? or even ?you-ee-fee?
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> These things matter!!!
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> From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> Sent: 01 October 2010 12:00
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> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: The end of
even “you-ee-fee”
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> These things matter!!!
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> *From:* James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
> *Sent:* 01 October 2010 12:00
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> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* The end o
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Sent: 01 October 2010 12:00
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: The end of the BIOS is nigh...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11430069
Probably well overdue, in hindsight
--
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
the machin
Everybody programming now will be dead in 3000... why should they
bother?
-sc
> -Original Message-
> From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 11:52 AM
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Subject: Re: The end of the BIOS is nigh...
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On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Maglinger, Paul wrote:
> Like the Y2K issue?
It's interesting to note that Y2K bugs keep happening, even in
entirely new code. It's amazing how many programmers just don't
expect users to enter a two-digit year, or assume tm.tm_year is the
current year not -1
Something like that...
*ASB*
* *
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 11:34 AM, Maglinger, Paul wrote:
> Like the Y2K issue?
>
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> *From:* Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
> *Sent:* Friday, October 01, 2010 10:01 AM
>
> *To:* NT System Admin Issues
> *Subject:* Re:
Like the Y2K issue?
From: Andrew S. Baker [mailto:asbz...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 10:01 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: The end of the BIOS is nigh...
I liked the following:
Mr Doran said the creators of the original Bios only expected it
to have a
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 11:01 AM, Andrew S. Baker wrote:
> I liked the following:
>>
>> Mr Doran said the creators of the original Bios only expected it to have a
>> lifetime of about 250,000 machines - a figure that has long been surpassed.
>>
>> "They are as amazed as anyone else that now it is s
I liked the following:
Mr Doran said the creators of the original Bios only expected it to have a
> lifetime of about 250,000 machines - a figure that has long been surpassed.
"They are as amazed as anyone else that now it is still alive and well in a
> lot of systems," he said. "It was never rea
ility is a requirement, as there are plenty of bootable
programs that depend on the BIOS interface to hard drives in order to
function.
Carl
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 8:58 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: The end of the BIOS is nigh..
I assume you are used to hearing laughter at small form-factor floppy
units.
-sc
From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 9:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: The end of the BIOS is nigh...
I found the picture of the floppy disk quite
es"
Date: 10/01/2010 07:00 AM
Subject: The end of the BIOS is nigh...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11430069
Probably well overdue, in hindsight
--
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
the machine wrong figures, will the rig
I found the picture of the floppy disk quite hilarious.
Shook
From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 9:21 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: The end of the BIOS is nigh...
Love how they capitalize UEFI but not BIOS. Quality.
- Original Message
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 9:18 AM, wrote:
> No more BIOS? That means no more chuckles over "Bad or missing keyboard -
> press F1 to continue" :-(
Oh, I'm sure IBM's implementation of $NEW_THING will retain their
error messages. They've held on for 30 years, why would they stop
now? :)
-- B
Perhaps it is BIAS?
"James Kerr" wrote on 10/01/2010 08:21:15 AM:
> Love how they capitalize UEFI but not BIOS. Quality.
> - Original Message -
> From: James Rankin
> To: NT System Admin Issues
> Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 6:59 AM
> Subject:
Love how they capitalize UEFI but not BIOS. Quality.
- Original Message -
From: James Rankin
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 6:59 AM
Subject: The end of the BIOS is nigh...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11430069
Probably well overdue, in
No more BIOS? That means no more chuckles over "Bad or missing keyboard -
press F1 to continue" :-(
James Rankin wrote on 10/01/2010 05:59:49 AM:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11430069
>
> Probably well overdue, in hindsight
>
> --
> "On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray,
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 8:58 AM, Erik Goldoff wrote:
> It’s all about standards … either it has to emulate BIOS to interface with
> existing Operating Systems, or the OS developers have to code future
> versions to it and drop any backwards hardware capability. ( or bloat the
> os more with dual c
On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 6:59 AM, James Rankin wrote:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11430069
We've heard that before. Maybe this time it will come true.
Modern BIOSes usually don't take more than a few seconds to boot, so
that seems like a non-issue. The single biggest driving facto
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From: Steven M. Caesare [mailto:scaes...@caesare.com]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 8:53 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: The end of the BIOS is nigh...
It will be interesting to see if this version manages to do what EFI
didn't...
-sc
From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Friday, October 01, 2010 7:00 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: The end of the BIOS is nigh...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-114
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-11430069
Probably well overdue, in hindsight
--
"On two occasions...I have been asked, 'Pray, Mr Babbage, if you put into
the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?' I am not able
rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could
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