Will it *really* not work virtualized?

2008-07-22 Thread John Hornbuckle
I was looking over the system requirements for a particular piece of software we're looking at purchasing, and I noticed that it specifically says it has to be on a physical (non-virtual) machine. Now, this software doesn't have any special hardware requirements. Processor requirements are modest,

RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized?

2008-07-22 Thread Ziots, Edward
ganization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Will it *really* not work virtualized? I was looking over the system requireme

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2008-07-22 Thread Benjamin Zachary - Lists
ter ID and thus have multiple copies of it. That's just my best guess though. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:58 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Will it *really* not work virtualized? I was looking

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2008-07-22 Thread John Hornbuckle
rom: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:01 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized? Its probably because the vendor doesn't know anything about VM's, and wants it on physical hardware, either that or it pro

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2008-07-22 Thread David Lum
+1 Times 10. Dave -Original Message- From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:01 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized? Its probably because the vendor doesn't know anything about VM's, and w

RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized?

2008-07-22 Thread John Hornbuckle
July 22, 2008 2:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized? Because either A. They have run into issues supporting it or B. They don't want to support it. I have a few software apps that say similar and it's really because they base the serial #

Re: Will it *really* not work virtualized?

2008-07-22 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
Why would a product not work on a virtual server, well, one that is high I/O, as in a database server would possibly not work. What application specifically are you looking at that says this? We've used virtual servers for probably 5 years now, and we've always taken the approach that we will try

RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized?

2008-07-22 Thread Andy Shook
I didn't know you could count that high. :) Shook -Original Message- From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:11 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized? +1 Times 10. Dave -Original Message- From:

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2008-07-22 Thread Ziots, Edward
ation MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized? I suspect that the vendor just doesn't

Re: Will it *really* not work virtualized?

2008-07-22 Thread Jon Harris
: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized? > > Because either A. They have run into issues supporting it or B. They > don't > want to support it. > > I have a few software apps that say similar and it's really because they > b

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2008-07-22 Thread Ziots, Edward
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2008-07-22 Thread John Hornbuckle
y 22, 2008 2:14 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Will it *really* not work virtualized? Why would a product not work on a virtual server, well, one that is high I/O, as in a database server would possibly not work. What application specifically are you looking at that says this? We

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2008-07-22 Thread Jon Harris
> *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:14 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Will it *really* not work virtualized? > > > > Why would a product not work on a virtual server, well, one that is high > I/O

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2008-07-22 Thread John Hornbuckle
This is Follett's "Destiny" product. From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Will it *really* not work virtualized? I am getting a 404 on that page what is the name of the prod

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2008-07-22 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
t; Phone: 401-639-3505 > -- > > *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:14 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Will it *really* not work virtualized? > > > > > > -- She

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2008-07-22 Thread Jon Harris
< [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is Follett's "Destiny" product. > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:30 PM > > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Will it

RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized?

2008-07-22 Thread John Hornbuckle
008 at 2:33 PM, John Hornbuckle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This is Follett's "Destiny" product. From: Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:30 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Will it *really* not work virtualized? I

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2008-07-22 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
er? > > > > > > > > *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:14 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Will it *really* not work virtualized? > > > > Why would a product not work on a virtual serve

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2008-07-22 Thread Ziots, Edward
. Ziots Network Engineer Lifespan Organization MCSE,MCSA,MCP,Security+,Network+,CCA Phone: 401-639-3505 From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:34 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Will it *really* not work virtuali

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2008-07-22 Thread Ziots, Edward
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2008-07-22 Thread David Lum
How big are your databases Sherry, and how many folks are hitting them? Dave From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:48 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Will it *really* not work virtualized? We've got about 14 SQL and/or other produ

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2008-07-22 Thread Ziots, Edward
1-639-3505 From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized? How big are your databases Sherry, and how many folks are hitting them? Dave From: S

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2008-07-22 Thread Cameron
*EWG* is that a polite thing to ask in mixed company?? ROFLMAO!!! _ From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:24 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized? How big are your databases Sherry, and how many

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2008-07-22 Thread Ziots, Edward
: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized? *EWG* is that a polite thing to ask in mixed company?? ROFLMAO!!! From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:24 PM To

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2008-07-22 Thread Kim Longenbaugh
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:25 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized? *EWG* is that a polite thing to ask in mixed company?? ROFLMAO!!! From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent:

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2008-07-22 Thread Ziots, Edward
-3505 From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized? raises hand at "Demented thinkers", and come to think of it, I've answered to "s

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2008-07-22 Thread Cameron
And of course that would be for Puppy Pounding! _ From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:39 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized? Hey at least you aren't afraid to admit it, if I did they lo

RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized?

2008-07-22 Thread Louis, Joe
e boards or the likes. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:08 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized? I suspect that the vendor just doesn't want the added layer of complexity that com

Re: Will it *really* not work virtualized?

2008-07-22 Thread Steven Peck
___ > > From: David Lum [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 4:24 PM > To: NT System Admin Issues > Subject: RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized? > > > > How big are your databases Sherry, and how many folks are hitting them? >

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2008-07-22 Thread Jesse Rink
I've been running Destiny virtualized on ESX for serveral months. Not a single issue. JR _ From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized? This is Follett'

RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized?

2008-07-23 Thread René de Haas
If that's the case then would it be a problem with Exchange? Those databases are much bigger than 3-5GB. From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized? We don't

Re: Will it *really* not work virtualized?

2008-07-23 Thread Jon Harris
gt; -- > > *From:* Jon Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2008 2:30 PM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Will it *really* not work virtualized? > > > > > > ~ Upgrade to Next Generation Antispam/Antivirus with Ninja!~ ~ <http://www.sunbelt-software.com/SunbeltMessagingNinja.cfm> ~

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2008-07-23 Thread John Hornbuckle
virtualized? If that's the case then would it be a problem with Exchange? Those databases are much bigger than 3-5GB. From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:26 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized? We

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2008-07-23 Thread Mike Semon
, July 23, 2008 2:33 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized? If that’s the case then would it be a problem with Exchange? Those databases are much bigger than 3-5GB. From: Ziots, Edward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 10:26 PM

Re: Will it *really* not work virtualized?

2008-07-23 Thread Sherry Abercrombie
crombie [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 22, 2008 11:48 AM > *To:* NT System Admin Issues > *Subject:* Re: Will it *really* not work virtualized? > > > > We've got about 14 SQL and/or other production database servers running in > VMWare, plus 3 - 4 times that

RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized?

2008-07-23 Thread Walker, Clay
work virtualized? I've been running Destiny virtualized on ESX for serveral months. Not a single issue. JR From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2008 1:33 PM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Will it *really

RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized?

2008-07-23 Thread John Hornbuckle
Good to know. Thanks for the feedback from both of you! From: Walker, Clay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 23, 2008 9:14 AM To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: RE: Will it *really* not work virtualized? Same here but we're running it on MS Virtual Server

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2008-07-23 Thread Steve Burkett
:00 To: NT System Admin Issues Subject: Re: Will it *really* not work virtualized? I have one that is over 6GB with about 75-100 people hitting it, very heavy usage. This particular one has been virtualized for 5 years. We've had issues with it once on performance when we applied an update