Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

Le 18 févr. 2012 06:18, "Christopher Jordan-Squire" a écrit : > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: > > > > > > Den 18. feb. 2012 kl. 05:01 skrev Jason Grout < jason-s...@creativetrax.com>: > > > >> On 2/17/12 9:54 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: > >>> We would have to write a C++ pr

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

Hi, again (sorry), On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Christopher Jordan-Squire wrote: > On the broader topic of recruitment...sure, cython has a lower barrier > to entry than C++. But there are many, many more C++ developers and > resources out there than cython resources. And it likely will stay

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

Hi, On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:18 PM, Christopher Jordan-Squire wrote: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: >> >> >> Den 18. feb. 2012 kl. 05:01 skrev Jason Grout : >> >>> On 2/17/12 9:54 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: We would have to write a C++ programming tutorial that is b

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: > > > Den 18. feb. 2012 kl. 05:01 skrev Jason Grout : > >> On 2/17/12 9:54 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: >>> We would have to write a C++ programming tutorial that is based on Pyton >>> knowledge instead of C knowledge. >> >> I personally would lov

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

Den 18. feb. 2012 kl. 05:56 skrev Charles R Harris : > > > But won't a C++ wrapper catch that? A try-catch block with MSVC will register an SEH with the operating system. GCC (g++) implements exceptions without SEH. What happens if GCC code tries to catch a std::bad_alloc? Windows intervene

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:00 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: > > Le 18 févr. 2012 04:37, "Charles R Harris" a > écrit : > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:18 PM, David Cournapeau > wrote: > >> > >> > >> Le 18 févr. 2012 03:53, "Charles R Harris" > a écrit : > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > >> >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

Le 18 févr. 2012 04:37, "Charles R Harris" a écrit : > > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:18 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: >> >> >> Le 18 févr. 2012 03:53, "Charles R Harris" a écrit : >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:29 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> Le 18 févr. 20

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:47 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: > > > > > > > Why would you even see an exception if it is caught before it escapes? I > would expect the C API to behave just as it currently does. What am I > missing? > > Structured exception handling in the OS. > > MSVC uses SEH for C++ ex

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:18 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: > > Le 18 févr. 2012 03:53, "Charles R Harris" a > écrit : > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:29 PM, David Cournapeau > wrote: > >> > >> > >> Le 18 févr. 2012 00:58, "Charles R Harris" > a écrit : > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

> > Why would you even see an exception if it is caught before it escapes? I > would expect the C API to behave just as it currently does. What am I > missing? Structured exception handling in the OS. MSVC uses SEH for C++ exceptions. Memory allocation fails in gcc code. Instead of retur

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:18 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: > > Le 18 févr. 2012 03:53, "Charles R Harris" a > écrit : > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:29 PM, David Cournapeau > wrote: > >> > >> > >> Le 18 févr. 2012 00:58, "Charles R Harris" > a écrit : > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

Den 18. feb. 2012 kl. 05:23 skrev Jason Grout : > On 2/17/12 10:10 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: > >> Sure. They just keep adding features for the expence of stability. No >> focus or sence of direction. Focus on a small feature set, make it >> right, then don't add to it. That is the root of the su

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

Den 18. feb. 2012 kl. 05:01 skrev Jason Grout : > On 2/17/12 9:54 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: >> We would have to write a C++ programming tutorial that is based on Pyton >> knowledge instead of C knowledge. > > I personally would love such a thing. It's been a while since I did > anything nontr

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On 2/17/12 10:10 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: > Sure. They just keep adding features for the expence of stability. No > focus or sence of direction. Focus on a small feature set, make it > right, then don't add to it. That is the root of the successes of C, > Python and Java. NumPy needs a stabile com

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

Le 18 févr. 2012 03:53, "Charles R Harris" a écrit : > > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:29 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: >> >> >> Le 18 févr. 2012 00:58, "Charles R Harris" a écrit : >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: >> >> >> >> I don't think c++ ha

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: > > > > For what it's worth, Cython supports C++ now. I'm sure there are people > > on this list that know much better than me the extent of this support, > > so I will let them chime in, but here are some docs on it: > > > > http://docs.cyth

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

> > For what it's worth, Cython supports C++ now. I'm sure there are people > on this list that know much better than me the extent of this support, > so I will let them chime in, but here are some docs on it: > > http://docs.cython.org/src/userguide/wrapping_CPlusPlus.html > Sure. They jus

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:07 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: > > Den 18. feb. 2012 kl. 01:58 skrev Charles R Harris < > charlesr.har...@gmail.com>: > > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: > >> I don't think c++ has any significant advantage over c for high >> performance librari

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On 2/17/12 9:54 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: > We would have to write a C++ programming tutorial that is based on Pyton > knowledge instead of C knowledge. I personally would love such a thing. It's been a while since I did anything nontrivial on my own in C++. Jason _

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

Den 18. feb. 2012 kl. 04:27 skrev Jason Grout : > On 2/17/12 9:07 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: >> >> Den 18. feb. 2012 kl. 01:58 skrev Charles R Harris >> mailto:charlesr.har...@gmail.com>>: >> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM, David Cournapeau >> > wrote: >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

Den 17. feb. 2012 kl. 18:52 skrev Eric Firing :. > > It's true that matplotlib relies heavily on C++, both via the Agg > library and in its own extension code. Personally, I don't like this; I > think it raises the barrier to contributing. C++ is an order of > magnitude more complicated than

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 7:29 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: > > Le 18 févr. 2012 00:58, "Charles R Harris" a > écrit : > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM, David Cournapeau > wrote: > >> > >> I don't think c++ has any significant advantage over c for high > performance libraries. I am

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On 2/17/12 9:07 PM, Sturla Molden wrote: > > Den 18. feb. 2012 kl. 01:58 skrev Charles R Harris > mailto:charlesr.har...@gmail.com>>: > >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM, David Cournapeau > > wrote: >> >> I don't think c++ has any significant advantage over c f

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

> > How about a different variation. How many people writing Python would happily > give up the following: > > 1) lists > 2) dictionaries > 3) default types > 4) classes > 5) automatic dellocation of memory > 1) std::vector 2) std::unordered_map 3) auto 4) class 5) std::shared_ptr Sturla

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

> . > > To be used approprietly, c++ requires much more discipline than c. Doing this > for a community-based project is very hard. Doing this with people who often > are scientist first and programmers second even harder. > This is very important. I am not sure it is doable. Bad C++ is far wo

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

Den 18. feb. 2012 kl. 01:58 skrev Charles R Harris : > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: > I don't think c++ has any significant advantage over c for high performance > libraries. I am not convinced by the number of people argument either: it is > not my experience

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

Le 17 févr. 2012 18:21, "Mark Wiebe" a écrit : > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Eric Firing wrote: >> >> On 02/17/2012 05:39 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:01 AM, David Cournapeau > > > wrote: >> > >> > Hi Travis, >> > >> >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:29 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: > > Le 18 févr. 2012 00:58, "Charles R Harris" a > écrit : > > >> >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM, David Cournapeau >> wrote: >>> >>> I don't think c++ has any significant advantage over c for high >>> performance libraries. I am

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

Le 18 févr. 2012 00:58, "Charles R Harris" a écrit : > > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: >> >> I don't think c++ has any significant advantage over c for high performance libraries. I am not convinced by the number of people argument either: it is not my experience th

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

Hi, On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 6:04 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Matthew Brett > wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Charles R Harris >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM, David Cournapeau >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I don'

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 6:54 PM, Matthew Brett wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Charles R Harris > wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM, David Cournapeau > > wrote: > >> > >> I don't think c++ has any significant advantage over c for high > >> performance libraries

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

Hi, On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:58 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM, David Cournapeau > wrote: >> >> I don't think c++ has any significant advantage over c for high >> performance libraries. I am not convinced by the number of people argument >> either: it is not m

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:44 PM, David Cournapeau wrote: > I don't think c++ has any significant advantage over c for high > performance libraries. I am not convinced by the number of people argument > either: it is not my experience that c++ is easier to maintain in a open > source context, where

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

Le 17 févr. 2012 17:58, "Mark Wiebe" a écrit : > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:27 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: >> >> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Charles R Harris >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:01 AM, David Cournapeau >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi Travis, >> >> >> >> On Thu,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

I don't think c++ has any significant advantage over c for high performance libraries. I am not convinced by the number of people argument either: it is not my experience that c++ is easier to maintain in a open source context, where the level of people is far from consistent. I doubt many people d

Re: [Numpy-discussion] test errors on deprecation/runtime warnings

Hi Ralf On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: > Last week we merged https://github.com/numpy/numpy/pull/201, which causes > DeprecationWarning's and RuntimeWarning's to be converted to errors if they > occur when running the test suite. It looks like this change affects other pac

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Buildbot/continuous integration (was Re: Issue Tracking)

On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:52 PM, Chris Ball wrote: > After getting to this initial stage, I'll discuss about adding more > features (such as testing pull requests, performance testing, building > binaries on the different operating systems, etc). Also, if it's working > well, this Buildbot setup c

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 9:56 PM, Mark Wiebe wrote: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Ralf Gommers < > ralf.gomm...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Charles R Harris < >> charlesr.har...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 4:20 PM, wrote:

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Ralf Gommers wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Charles R Harris < > charlesr.har...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 4:20 PM, wrote: >> >>> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Warren Weckesser >>> wrote: >>> > >>> > >>> > On Thu, Fe

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 3:38 PM, Ralf Gommers wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Mark Wiebe wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Christopher Jordan-Squire < >> cjord...@uw.edu> wrote: >> >>> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Mark Wiebe wrote: >>> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:24 AM, Charles R Harris < charlesr.har...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 4:20 PM, wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 5:56 PM, Warren Weckesser >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Travis Oliphant >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Mark Wieb

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

Hi Bryan, On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Bryan Van de Ven wrote: > On 2/17/12 10:27 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > > Making the numpy C code buildable by a C++ compiler is harder than > > removing keywords. > Just as a data point, I took the cpp branch mark started and got numpy > built and runn

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Mark Wiebe wrote: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Christopher Jordan-Squire < > cjord...@uw.edu> wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Mark Wiebe wrote: >> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Eric Firing >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 02/17/2012 05:39 AM,

Re: [Numpy-discussion] [EXTERNAL] Re: Strange PyArray_FromObject() behavior

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:31 AM, Bill Spotz wrote: > Chuck, > > I provided a little more context in another email. The user is using > numpy 1.6.1 with python 2.6. I asked him to try an earlier version -- > we'll see how it goes. This is code that has worked for a long time. It > still works

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:00 AM, Christopher Jordan-Squire wrote: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Mark Wiebe wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Eric Firing > wrote: > >> > >> On 02/17/2012 05:39 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:01 AM, Dav

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 12:09 PM, Benjamin Root wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Christopher Jordan-Squire < > cjord...@uw.edu> wrote: > >> On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Mark Wiebe wrote: >> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Eric Firing >> wrote: >> >> >> >> On 02/17/2012 05:

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 1:00 PM, Christopher Jordan-Squire wrote: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Mark Wiebe wrote: > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Eric Firing > wrote: > >> > >> On 02/17/2012 05:39 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:01 AM, David

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Numpy governance update

Hi Ben, On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 9:54 PM, Benjamin Root wrote: > > > On Thursday, February 16, 2012, John Hunter wrote: >> >> >> >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 7:26 PM, Alan G Isaac >> wrote: >>> >>> On 2/16/2012 7:22 PM, Matthew Brett wrote: >>> > This has not been an encouraging episode in striving

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:21 AM, Mark Wiebe wrote: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Eric Firing wrote: >> >> On 02/17/2012 05:39 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:01 AM, David Cournapeau > > > wrote: >> > >> >     Hi Travis, >> > >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:37 AM, Neal Becker wrote: > Mark Wiebe wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Eric Firing > wrote: > > > >> On 02/17/2012 05:39 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:01 AM, David Cournapeau >> > >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

Mark Wiebe wrote: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Eric Firing wrote: > >> On 02/17/2012 05:39 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: >> > >> > >> > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:01 AM, David Cournapeau > > > wrote: >> > >> > Hi Travis, >> > >> > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Eric Firing wrote: > On 02/17/2012 05:39 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:01 AM, David Cournapeau > > wrote: > > > > Hi Travis, > > > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Travis Oliphant > >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 10:27 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Charles R Harris > wrote: > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:01 AM, David Cournapeau > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Travis, > >> > >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Travis Oliphant > >> wrote: > >> > Mar

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On 02/17/2012 05:39 AM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:01 AM, David Cournapeau > wrote: > > Hi Travis, > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Travis Oliphant > mailto:tra...@continuum.io>> wrote: > > Mark Wiebe and I have been dis

Re: [Numpy-discussion] [EXTERNAL] Re: Strange PyArray_FromObject() behavior

Chuck, I provided a little more context in another email. The user is using numpy 1.6.1 with python 2.6. I asked him to try an earlier version -- we'll see how it goes. This is code that has worked for a long time. It still works on my laptop and on our test platforms. The behavior on the

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On 2/17/12 10:27 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > Making the numpy C code buildable by a C++ compiler is harder than > removing keywords. Just as a data point, I took the cpp branch mark started and got numpy built and running with multiarray compiled using C++ (OSX llvm-g++ 4.2). All I really did w

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 3:39 PM, Charles R Harris wrote: > > > On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:01 AM, David Cournapeau > wrote: >> >> Hi Travis, >> >> On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Travis Oliphant >> wrote: >> > Mark Wiebe and I have been discussing off and on (as well as talking >> > with Charles

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 8:01 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > Hi Travis, > > On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Travis Oliphant > wrote: > > Mark Wiebe and I have been discussing off and on (as well as talking > with Charles) a good way forward to balance two competing desires: > > > >* addit

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

Hi Travis, On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 10:39 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > Mark Wiebe and I have been discussing off and on (as well as talking with > Charles) a good way forward to balance two competing desires: > >        * addition of new features that are needed in NumPy >        * improving the

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Proposed Roadmap Overview

Hi, 16.02.2012 23:39, Travis Oliphant kirjoitti: [clip] > * NumPy 1.8 to come out in July which will have as many ABI-compatible > feature enhancements as we can add while improving test coverage and code > cleanup. I will post to this list more details of what we plan to address > with

Re: [Numpy-discussion] Numpy governance update

On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:20 AM, John Hunter wrote: > And he has proven his ability to lead when *almost everyone* was > against him. At the height of the Numeric/numarray split, and I was > deeply involved in this as the mpl author because we had a "numerix" > compatibility layer to allow users to u