Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 5:46 PM, Ondřej Čertík wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:50 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Ondřej Čertík >> wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Travis Oliphant >>> wrote: On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:28 AM, David Cournapeau wrote

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread Ondřej Čertík
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 8:50 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Ondřej Čertík > wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >>> On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:28 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Travis Oliphant

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 4:12 PM, Ondřej Čertík wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >> On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:28 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Travis Oliphant >>> wrote: On Aug 22, 2012, at 3:59 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread Ondřej Čertík
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 7:35 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:28 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >>> >>> On Aug 22, 2012, at 3:59 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Travis Oliphant >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:28 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > >> On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >>> >>> On Aug 22, 2012, at 3:59 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Travis Oliphant >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread Travis Oliphant
On Aug 22, 2012, at 9:28 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >> >> On Aug 22, 2012, at 3:59 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Travis Oliphant >> wrote: >>> >>> I'm actually not sure, why. I think the iss

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > > On Aug 22, 2012, at 3:59 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: > > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Travis Oliphant > wrote: >> >> I'm actually not sure, why. I think the issue is making sure that the >> release manager can actually "build" Num

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread Travis Oliphant
On Aug 22, 2012, at 3:59 AM, Ralf Gommers wrote: > > > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > I'm actually not sure, why. I think the issue is making sure that the > release manager can actually "build" NumPy without having to buy a particular > compiler. > > That woul

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 3:14 PM, Nathaniel Smith wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:40 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Chris Barker wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Travis Oliphant >>> wrote: I'm actually not sure, why. I think the issue is m

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread Nathaniel Smith
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:40 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Chris Barker wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >>> I'm actually not sure, why. I think the issue is making sure that the >>> release manager can actually "build" NumPy

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread David Cournapeau
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Peter wrote: > On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:40 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Chris Barker wrote: >>> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Travis Oliphant >>> wrote: I'm actually not sure, why. I think the issue is making sur

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread Peter
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:40 AM, David Cournapeau wrote: > On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Chris Barker wrote: >> On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >>> I'm actually not sure, why. I think the issue is making sure that >>> the release manager can actually "build" NumPy

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread David Cournapeau
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Chris Barker wrote: > On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: >> I'm actually not sure, why. I think the issue is making sure that the >> release manager can actually "build" NumPy without having to buy a >> particular compiler. > > The MS Exp

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-22 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Tue, Aug 21, 2012 at 12:51 AM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > I'm actually not sure, why. I think the issue is making sure that the > release manager can actually "build" NumPy without having to buy a > particular compiler. > That would help, yes. MS Express doesn't work under Wine last time I che

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-20 Thread Chris Barker
On Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Travis Oliphant wrote: > I'm actually not sure, why. I think the issue is making sure that the > release manager can actually "build" NumPy without having to buy a particular > compiler. The MS Express editions, while not open source, are free-to-use, and work

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-20 Thread Travis Oliphant
I'm actually not sure, why. I think the issue is making sure that the release manager can actually "build" NumPy without having to buy a particular compiler. But, I would rather have official builds of NumPy for all platforms with a compiler paid for by a NumPy-sponsor than not have them.

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-20 Thread Chris Barker
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Ralf Gommers > The problem is that, unlike 32-bit builds, they can't be made with open > source compilers on Windows. So unless we're okay with that, Why does it have to be built with open-source compilers? we're building against the python.org python, yes? Which

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-19 Thread Ralf Gommers
On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 9:14 AM, Sayth Renshaw wrote: > > Message: 4 > > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:25:21 -0700 > > From: Matthew Brett > > Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure > > To: Discussion of Numerical Python > > Message-ID: > >

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-19 Thread Sayth Renshaw
> Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2012 15:25:21 -0700 > From: Matthew Brett > Subject: Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure > To: Discussion of Numerical Python > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi, > > On

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-17 Thread Matthew Brett
Hi, On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Sayth Renshaw wrote: >> >> Hi Sayth, >> >> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Sayth Renshaw >> wrote: >>> Hi >>> >>> I was just wondering if the current absence of 64bit builds was as a result >>> of an infrastructure or funding concern. >>> >>> I like many no

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-17 Thread Travis Oliphant
Donations to NumFOCUS would be helpful in raising money to fund the creation of 64-bit installers.It always comes down to funding, but mostly people's time is the scarce resource here. It is more difficult to build 64-bit binaries on Windows which is the real issue (not the availability

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-17 Thread Sayth Renshaw
> > Hi Sayth, > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Sayth Renshaw wrote: >> Hi >> >> I was just wondering if the current absence of 64bit builds was as a result >> of an infrastructure or funding concern. >> >> I like many now have only 64 bit systems and am using the unofficial builds. >> >> If it

Re: [Numpy-discussion] 64bit infrastructure

2012-08-17 Thread Ondřej Čertík
Hi Sayth, On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Sayth Renshaw wrote: > Hi > > I was just wondering if the current absence of 64bit builds was as a result > of an infrastructure or funding concern. > > I like many now have only 64 bit systems and am using the unofficial builds. > > If it was something