Re: [Nut-upsuser] battery not installed, but battery still 100% and NUT 2.7.2-4 does not catch this and report a error

2017-04-03 Thread Stuart Gathman
On 04/03/2017 07:03 PM, Gene Heskett wrote: > > But it does that because you have tried to get 12 years out of a gell > cell battery that is doing really really well if you get 4 years out of > it. I am not saying you should do that _now_, without first replacing > that thoroughly boiled dry ba

Re: [Nut-upsuser] battery not installed, but battery still 100% and NUT 2.7.2-4 does not catch this and report a error

2017-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 03 April 2017 16:39:30 Stuart D. Gathman wrote: > On Mon, 3 Apr 2017, Gene Heskett wrote: > >>> Nut, IIRC, can do a periodic battery test by putting it offline, > >>> using the battery, for a predetermined length of time, weekly, > >>> monthly etc, > >> > >> We definitely don't want that

Re: [Nut-upsuser] battery not installed, but battery still 100% and NUT 2.7.2-4 does not catch this and report a error

2017-04-03 Thread Stuart Gathman
On 04/03/2017 05:52 PM, Jon Bendtsen wrote: > > ALARM is not mentioned, so I suppose NUT only reacts to the Online > message it gets? Yes, this is the problem. And it is only upsmon that is not dealing with ALARM in some way. upsd and drivers are passing it on. _

Re: [Nut-upsuser] battery not installed, but battery still 100% and NUT 2.7.2-4 does not catch this and report a error

2017-04-03 Thread Jon Bendtsen
On 03/04/17 22.11, Gene Heskett wrote: On Monday 03 April 2017 14:13:08 Stuart D. Gathman wrote: Back on the mailing list, where such belongs. [cuuut] We want the ALARM that the nut driver is generating, and upsd is passing on - to be acted on in some way by upsmon. Which NOTIFYCMD is run

Re: [Nut-upsuser] battery not installed, but battery still 100% and NUT 2.7.2-4 does not catch this and report a error

2017-04-03 Thread Tim Dawson
Which gets back to the original point I was trying to make. Iy the UPS does a load test (and I'm pretty certain My SmartUPS can, if enabled), you know the battery is failing *before* something face-plants, thus *reducing* risk! I test on all mine, and have never in 15+ years of doing so, had any

Re: [Nut-upsuser] battery not installed, but battery still 100% and NUT 2.7.2-4 does not catch this and report a error

2017-04-03 Thread Stuart D. Gathman
On Mon, 3 Apr 2017, Gene Heskett wrote: Nut, IIRC, can do a periodic battery test by putting it offline, using the battery, for a predetermined length of time, weekly, monthly etc, We definitely don't want that in this instance either! Why not? If the battery has a holdup time of 5 minutes w

Re: [Nut-upsuser] how do you test (nagios) that upsmon is connected?

2017-04-03 Thread Roger Price
On Mon, 3 Apr 2017, Spike wrote: I'll see if I can implement it some time soon. Hi Spike, I tested the heartbeat proposal on openSUSE 13.1 and 42.2, and made some changes so that it would work. I wrote out some documentation which includes the required changes, which you will find at http:

Re: [Nut-upsuser] battery not installed, but battery still 100% and NUT 2.7.2-4 does not catch this and report a error

2017-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 03 April 2017 14:13:08 Stuart D. Gathman wrote: Back on the mailing list, where such belongs. > On Mon, 3 Apr 2017, Gene Heskett wrote: > > Nut, IIRC, can do a periodic battery test by putting it offline, > > using the battery, for a predetermined length of time, weekly, > > monthly etc

Re: [Nut-upsuser] battery not installed, but battery still 100% and NUT 2.7.2-4 does not catch this and report a error

2017-04-03 Thread Stuart D. Gathman
On Mon, 3 Apr 2017, Gene Heskett wrote: Nut, IIRC, can do a periodic battery test by putting it offline, using the battery, for a predetermined length of time, weekly, monthly etc, We definitely don't want that in this instance either! (Unless it is a dual PS server.) We want the ALARM tha

Re: [Nut-upsuser] battery not installed, but battery still 100% and NUT 2.7.2-4 does not catch this and report a error

2017-04-03 Thread Gene Heskett
On Monday 03 April 2017 11:41:56 Jon Bendtsen wrote: > On 03/04/17 17.24, Roger Price wrote: > > On Mon, 3 Apr 2017, Jon Bendtsen wrote: > >> On 03/04/17 17.10, Roger Price wrote: > >>> On Mon, 3 Apr 2017, Jon Bendtsen wrote: > Power seem to be lost immediately. > But my APC Smart-UPS 15

Re: [Nut-upsuser] how do you test (nagios) that upsmon is connected?

2017-04-03 Thread Spike
thank you all for your input. Roger, I'm a nut noob and only marginally understand the implementation (from your other email), but I really like the idea of a heartbeat and design wise it makes a lot of sense. I'll see if I can implement it some time soon. thank you, Spike On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at

Re: [Nut-upsuser] battery not installed, but battery still 100% and NUT 2.7.2-4 does not catch this and report a error

2017-04-03 Thread Jon Bendtsen
itlet:/etc/nut# upslog -s apc1500 -l - Network UPS Tools upslog 2.7.2 logging status of apc1500 to - (30s intervals) Init SSL without certificate database 20170403 154055 100 230.4 21.4 [ALARM OL] NA NA 20170403 154125 100 230.4 20.8 [ALARM OL] NA NA 20170403 154155 100 230.4 21.4 [ALARM OL] NA

Re: [Nut-upsuser] battery not installed, but battery still 100% and NUT 2.7.2-4 does not catch this and report a error

2017-04-03 Thread Tim Dawson
NUT can only report what the UPS tells it. IE, if no battery/load test is runs on the UPS, it has no way to know the battery croaked . . . it just sees normal voltage, and says "100% charge" . . . . - Tim On April 3, 2017 10:41:56 AM CDT, Jon Bendtsen wrote: >On 03/04/17 17.24, Roger Price wro

Re: [Nut-upsuser] battery not installed, but battery still 100% and NUT 2.7.2-4 does not catch this and report a error

2017-04-03 Thread Stuart Gathman
On 04/03/2017 11:10 AM, Roger Price wrote: > On Mon, 3 Apr 2017, Jon Bendtsen wrote: > >> Power seem to be lost immediately. >> But my APC Smart-UPS 1500 always reported everything OK. >> battery.charge : 100 > ... >> battery.mfr.date : 2005/08/26 > > Hi, Could you confirm that th

Re: [Nut-upsuser] battery not installed, but battery still 100% and NUT 2.7.2-4 does not catch this and report a error

2017-04-03 Thread Jon Bendtsen
On 03/04/17 17.24, Roger Price wrote: On Mon, 3 Apr 2017, Jon Bendtsen wrote: On 03/04/17 17.10, Roger Price wrote: On Mon, 3 Apr 2017, Jon Bendtsen wrote: Power seem to be lost immediately. But my APC Smart-UPS 1500 always reported everything OK. battery.charge : 100 ... battery

Re: [Nut-upsuser] battery not installed, but battery still 100% and NUT 2.7.2-4 does not catch this and report a error

2017-04-03 Thread Roger Price
On Mon, 3 Apr 2017, Jon Bendtsen wrote: On 03/04/17 17.10, Roger Price wrote: On Mon, 3 Apr 2017, Jon Bendtsen wrote: Power seem to be lost immediately. But my APC Smart-UPS 1500 always reported everything OK. battery.charge : 100 ... battery.mfr.date : 2005/08/26 Hi, Co

Re: [Nut-upsuser] battery not installed, but battery still 100% and NUT 2.7.2-4 does not catch this and report a error

2017-04-03 Thread Roger Price
On Mon, 3 Apr 2017, Jon Bendtsen wrote: Power seem to be lost immediately. But my APC Smart-UPS 1500 always reported everything OK. battery.charge : 100 ... battery.mfr.date: 2005/08/26 Hi, Could you confirm that the battery is nearly 12 years old? Roger

[Nut-upsuser] battery not installed, but battery still 100% and NUT 2.7.2-4 does not catch this and report a error

2017-04-03 Thread Jon Bendtsen
of apc1500 to - (30s intervals) Init SSL without certificate database 20170403 154055 100 230.4 21.4 [ALARM OL] NA NA 20170403 154125 100 230.4 20.8 [ALARM OL] NA NA 20170403 154155 100 230.4 21.4 [ALARM OL] NA NA root@dkfitlet:/etc/nut# upsmon -DDD Network UPS Tools upsmon 2.7.2 kill: No such