Re: [nycwireless] Polls/surveys about wireless usage (by coffee buyers, etc.)?

2003-10-01 Thread Joe Plotkin
Perception is a funny thing. Why is it that these coffee shop owners no longer see wireless as a way to draw additional customers? In other words, are they taking these customers for granted because they sit too long? Is user behavior different when node use is free? Do they feel obliged to b

RE: [nycwireless] Polls/surveys about wireless usage (by coffeebuyers, etc.)?

2003-10-01 Thread Darrel O'Pry
I think something that might work... Is making the portal an additional Point of Sale of the store owner. Have an order entry system built into the portal. When users place orders through the portal their account is given time credits. Their beverage get delivered to the table. They pay up their ca

Re: [nycwireless] Polls/surveys about wireless usage (by coffeebuyers, etc.)?

2003-10-01 Thread jon baer
it really already exists in DHCP extensions but there are lack of clients using it ... ive always felt that there should be DHCP clients made exclusively w/ wireless extensions that could do safe messaging/polling ... (or overall work on establishing a secure protocol just for WiFi stuff - somethin

[nycwireless] Re: nycwireless Digest, Vol 8, Issue 1

2003-10-01 Thread Dana Spiegel
I've tried verizon, and it rocks. Coverage everywhere, and it is reasonably speedy (at least 56k most of the time) Stay as far away from t-mobile as you can. I've used their network, and I consistently get 80% packet loss and speeds around that of a 1200 bps modem. It took 10 minutes to load yah

[nycwireless] Re: Polls/surveys about wireless usage (by coffee buyers, etc.)?

2003-10-01 Thread joshmccormack
What if there were a coffee shop where coffee and snacks were free, but Internet access, newspapers, power connections, copy machines, etc. had a fee, and to stay there you had to spend a certain amount per hour. And if you could earn credit by working there or providing your skilled labor - sys

Re: [nycwireless] Polls/surveys about wireless usage (by coffee buyers, etc.)?

2003-10-01 Thread freelance writer
There seems to be a lot of support for doing this sort of poll and so far, no objections. Does the nycwireleless "staff" think its merit is sufficient to use the nycwireless site (and hence visitors and community) as one means of testing? Some kind of pop-up or sidebar, etc? From: Joe Plotki

Re: [nycwireless] Re: nycwireless Digest, Vol 8, Issue 1

2003-10-01 Thread Kevin M. Agard
I'm sorry, I'd have to disagree. I've used T-mobile extensively in my travels around the country, up to an including last week in Las Vegas and have never experienced the speeds you mention. I generally find their connection quite fast. I will probably be using them a lot less now that they are doi

Re: [nycwireless] Polls/surveys about wireless usage (by coffeebuyers, etc.)?

2003-10-01 Thread Ben N. Serebin
Hello All, I don't know if the NYCw website would be best for this, especially since many wireless visitors of stores are not NYCw members. Unless we want to stack the deck for wireless locations. I think a better approach would be if someone camped out at a free & paid wireless location t

Re: [nycwireless] Polls/surveys about wireless usage (bycoffeebuyers, etc.)?

2003-10-01 Thread freelance writer
Ben, I don't think that that the nycw site should be the only source, but I do think it's a good place to reach a lot of wireless users. Only asking people who aren't in the know, so to speak, is not necessarily ideal, either. I think we should do both: I aso agree about the camp-out-at

Re: [nycwireless] Polls/surveys about wireless usage (bycoffeebuyers, etc.)?

2003-10-01 Thread Joe Plotkin
Actually I agree with Ben here. If we want to pursue this research it needs to be statistically valid and conducted professionally. Having a self-selected group of NYCw users fill out a form on our own website is not gonna give us valid results. It would be good to find out how many wireless-c

[nycwireless] 802.11g enhancement war heats up

2003-10-01 Thread jon baer
802.11g enhancement war heats up 802.11g has not been in the market for long, but different vendors already compete with each other to make it go faster. Netgear recently launched its Super-G chip, claiming it could reach speeds of up to 108 Mbps. Now D-Link is bringing out a new chip, based on an

Re: [nycwireless] Polls/surveys about wireless usage (bycoffeebuyers, etc.)?

2003-10-01 Thread freelance writer
My primary interest here is in getting the data, so I'm not picky on how it gets done (I agree that a home-brew poll is probably sub-ideal). I'm willing to help in any way, meaning that if someone wants to deputize me to act in the interests of NYCw, I can make some phone calls to polling firms

Re: [nycwireless] Polls/surveys about wireless usage (bycoffeebuyers, etc.)?

2003-10-01 Thread Anthony Townsend
can we summarize quickly how this poll would further the NYCwireless mission? (and for god's sake, please clip your replies) On Wednesday, October 1, 2003, at 01:40 pm, freelance writer wrote: My primary interest here is in getting the data, so I'm not picky on how it gets done (I agree that a

Re: [nycwireless] 802.11g enhancement war heats up

2003-10-01 Thread Daniel Thor Kristjansson
Does anyone on list have any experience with either of these 802.11g chipsets? The most important question for me is how do these compare to the ORiNOCO Silver and and Cisco 350 for range when talking to 802.11b networks? Also what kind of driver support do they have. How good is the xBSD, Mac OS