Re: [nznog] TICSA and lawful intercept

2017-09-05 Thread Gary Benner
HI all, OpenTap seems to have gone away some time ago, but here is an archived page on what they were about - all documents were database based and no longer available. https://web.archive.org/web/20060213173613/http://www.opentap.org:80/ There's an article here about using another open

Re: [nznog] TICSA and lawful intercept

2017-09-05 Thread Dave Mill
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Dave Mill wrote: > > An old page is here - https://web.archive.org/web/ > 20160328205455/http://www.release14.org/ > > This page from their previous website is a pretty good overview of the solution -

Re: [nznog] TICSA and lawful intercept

2017-09-05 Thread Dave Mill
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:28 PM, Michael Fincham wrote: > On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 16:23:38 +1200 > Dave Mill wrote: > > > A year ago there was another open source implementation called release14. > > But that vanished since then. I have contacted them but

Re: [nznog] TICSA and lawful intercept

2017-09-05 Thread Michael Fincham
On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 16:23:38 +1200 Dave Mill wrote: > A year ago there was another open source implementation called release14. > But that vanished since then. I have contacted them but nothing back. Do you have a link to their code? I'd be interested to have a look at what

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Re: [nznog] TICSA and lawful intercept

2017-09-05 Thread Dave Mill
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Ewen McNeill wrote: > > On quick searching it's unclear if there is, eg, an existing open source > implementation. The opentap.org mentioned at the end of that slide set > appears to be gone (replaced by a non-English advertising site).

Re: [nznog] TICSA and lawful intercept

2017-09-05 Thread Ewen McNeill
On 6/09/17 15:45, Dave Mill wrote: Thanks, that clears that part up. Its clear that we need to work towards ETSI. For those playing along at home, like me, wondering what ETSI is in this context, this RIPE presentation slide deck seems to be a place to start:

Re: [nznog] TICSA and lawful intercept

2017-09-05 Thread Nathan Ward
> On 6/09/2017, at 4:12 PM, Michael Fincham wrote: > > This is also my personal view... > > On Wed, 6 Sep 2017 15:37:49 +1200 > Dave Mill wrote: > >> So, in conclusion, maybe ETSI is the best format, and isn't as expensive as >> I had thought to

Re: [nznog] TICSA and lawful intercept

2017-09-05 Thread Dave Mill
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Chris Browning < chris.brown...@lightwire.co.nz> wrote: > > > *Section 40 mentions about a standard being gazetted in the future with > industry consultation. Plus the police website right currently states > 'Although no standards have been Gazetted yet, the

Re: [nznog] TICSA and lawful intercept

2017-09-05 Thread Chris Browning
Section 40 mentions about a standard being gazetted in the future with industry consultation. Plus the police website right currently states 'Although no standards have been Gazetted yet, the European Telecommunications Standards Institute (ETSI) standards and specifications, specific to the

Re: [nznog] TICSA and lawful intercept

2017-09-05 Thread Dave Mill
On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 2:57 PM, Nathan Ward wrote: > > The rest of your email was interesting and I’m generally in agreement, > but, focussing on just this one thing for the minute.. > > What is the objection to ETSI format here? The format itself looks rather > straightforward,

Re: [nznog] TICSA and lawful intercept

2017-09-05 Thread Nathan Ward
> On 6/09/2017, at 3:13 PM, Peter Ensor wrote: > > Hi all, > During the TICSA roadshow last month, there was a representative from the > Police talking about the provision of the data from the interception. > > He made the point that solution using pcap and ftp

Re: [nznog] TICSA and lawful intercept

2017-09-05 Thread Peter Ensor
Hi all, During the TICSA roadshow last month, there was a representative from the Police talking about the provision of the data from the interception. He made the point that solution using pcap and ftp is not acceptable due to delays in receiving the data and other reasons. They need the data

Re: [nznog] TICSA and lawful intercept

2017-09-05 Thread Nathan Ward
> On 6/09/2017, at 2:33 PM, Dave Mill wrote: > > Hi again > > > On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Nathan Ward > wrote: > >> Perhaps some collaboration here would be useful, if others are looking at >> their own implementations of

Re: [nznog] TICSA and lawful intercept

2017-09-05 Thread Dave Mill
Hi again On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 6:34 PM, Nathan Ward wrote: > > Perhaps some collaboration here would be useful, if others are looking at > their own implementations of this stuff? I don’t imagine much could happen > in terms of sharing hardware - unless the LFCs and other