Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-18 Thread Nat Sakimura
all the > interactions that may occur. So much for the simple Oauth. > > > > *From:* Justin Richer [mailto:jric...@mit.edu] > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 12, 2016 5:46 AM > *To:* Torsten Lodderstadt > *Cc:* Anthony Nadalin ; < > oauth@ietf.org> > > > *Subject:*

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-12 Thread Sergey Beryozkin
h@ietf.org>> mailto:oauth@ietf.org>> *Subject:*Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0 No, I'm not adding requirements for encryption. I was pointing out some of the ways that an access token might be different for di

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-12 Thread Anthony Nadalin
Nadalin ; Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0 +1 to Torsten’s point. And a reminder to Tony that call for adoption is the *start* of the document editing process, not the end. We’re not saying this is a complete solution with everything thought out when we

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-12 Thread Justin Richer
oes on shows how unstable and not fully thought out this draft is to >> go through WG adoption. >>   <> >> From: OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org <mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org>] >> On Behalf Of Brian Campbell >> Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 12:30 P

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-11 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Am 11.04.2016 um 22:35 schrieb Anthony Nadalin : > > So it’s an incomplete solution then ? > > From: Brian Campbell [mailto:bcampb...@pingidentity.com] > Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 1:34 PM > To: Anthony Nadalin > Cc: Nat Sakimura ; > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adopti

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-11 Thread Anthony Nadalin
So it’s an incomplete solution then ? From: Brian Campbell [mailto:bcampb...@pingidentity.com] Sent: Monday, April 11, 2016 1:34 PM To: Anthony Nadalin Cc: Nat Sakimura ; Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0 No, I'm not adding requirement

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-11 Thread Brian Campbell
ead goes on shows how unstable and not fully thought out this draft is > to go through WG adoption. > > > > *From:* OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Brian > Campbell > *Sent:* Monday, April 11, 2016 12:30 PM > *To:* Nat Sakimura > *Cc:* > *Subject:* R

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-11 Thread Anthony Nadalin
Sakimura Cc: Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0 Sending a token type is not sufficient. There's more involved than the format. Many cases need to know if to encrypt and whom to encrypt to. What claims to put in the token (or reference by the token).

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-11 Thread Brian Campbell
Sending a token type is not sufficient. There's more involved than the format. Many cases need to know if to encrypt and whom to encrypt to. What claims to put in the token (or reference by the token). What algorithms and keys to use for signing/encryption. The statement that the "Current proposa

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-10 Thread Nat Sakimura
So, my understanding on the rationale/requirements for having this spec right now is: R1. Authz server wants toprevent the replay by the server that received it. R2. Authz server needs to mint the access token in a variety of format depending on the resource server and to do that, you need to know

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-08 Thread Hardt, Dick
+1 to Prateek's comments -- Dick > On Apr 7, 2016, at 8:24 PM, Prateek Mishra wrote: > > While this work addresses a gap in the existing OAuth specification set, I am > very concerned that this > incremental extension will lead to even more confusion around the areas of > “scope”, “audience”

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-07 Thread Prateek Mishra
While this work addresses a gap in the existing OAuth specification set, I am very concerned that this incremental extension will lead to even more confusion around the areas of “scope”, “audience” and “resource server”. I think we should try to solve this problem via a framework that provides

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-07 Thread Justin Richer
I support adoption of this document as a starting point for working group work. — Justin > On Apr 6, 2016, at 1:25 PM, Hannes Tschofenig > wrote: > > Hi all, > > this is the call for adoption of 'Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0', see > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-campbell-oauth-

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-07 Thread Nat Sakimura
Campbell > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 6, 2016 12:52 PM > *To:* Phil Hunt (IDM) > *Cc:* oauth@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for > OAuth 2.0 > > > > I support the adoption of this draft by the working group. > > I don'

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-06 Thread John Bradley
I support adoption by the WG. > On Apr 6, 2016, at 2:25 PM, Hannes Tschofenig > wrote: > > Hi all, > > this is the call for adoption of 'Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0', see > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-campbell-oauth-resource-indicators/ > > Please let us know by April 20th wh

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-06 Thread Brian Campbell
e both of these > together > > > > *From:* Brian Campbell [mailto:bcampb...@pingidentity.com] > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 6, 2016 1:13 PM > *To:* Anthony Nadalin > *Cc:* Phil Hunt (IDM) ; oauth@ietf.org > > *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indi

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-06 Thread Anthony Nadalin
: Wednesday, April 6, 2016 1:13 PM To: Anthony Nadalin Cc: Phil Hunt (IDM) ; oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0 Multiple resources are there now. I have no idea what "interaction with Token Exchange" means. Can you please explain? On

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-06 Thread Brian Campbell
this is adopted to see if this will actually solve > the problems > > > > *From:* OAuth [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] *On Behalf Of *Brian > Campbell > *Sent:* Wednesday, April 6, 2016 12:52 PM > *To:* Phil Hunt (IDM) > *Cc:* oauth@ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-06 Thread Anthony Nadalin
) Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0 I support the adoption of this draft by the working group. I don't think an immediate WGLC was expected here. On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Phil Hunt (IDM) mailto:phil.h...@oracle.com>>

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-06 Thread Brian Campbell
I support the adoption of this draft by the working group. I don't think an immediate WGLC was expected here. On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Phil Hunt (IDM) wrote: > With the process of immediate wglc I think we should review all documents > more thoroughly before adoption. > > As I said I sup

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-06 Thread Phil Hunt (IDM)
With the process of immediate wglc I think we should review all documents more thoroughly before adoption. As I said I support the work. Phil > On Apr 6, 2016, at 16:02, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > > Phil, > > we have discussed this concept already for years. In fact, it dates back > to the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-06 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Phil, we have discussed this concept already for years. In fact, it dates back to the days of the OAuth base specification and the security consideration section even talks about it. We have had the content of this in the PoP key distribution draft and we are now moving it into a separate documen

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-06 Thread Phil Hunt (IDM)
I would like to have more discussion before wg adoption. I support the work and am willing to help. Phil > On Apr 6, 2016, at 14:25, Hannes Tschofenig wrote: > > Hi all, > > this is the call for adoption of 'Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0', see > http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-cam

[OAUTH-WG] Call for Adoption: Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0

2016-04-06 Thread Hannes Tschofenig
Hi all, this is the call for adoption of 'Resource Indicators for OAuth 2.0', see http://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-campbell-oauth-resource-indicators/ Please let us know by April 20th whether you accept / object to the adoption of this document as a starting point for work in the OAuth worki