Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-13 Thread Robert Sayre
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:12 AM, Torsten Lodderstedt wrote: > >> >> Sure, to give one example, I would make the device flow a separate >> spec immediately. That seems only distantly related to other things in >> the spec, and may not be really necessary by the time the standard >> matures. >> > >

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-13 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Am 13.05.2010 02:41, schrieb Robert Sayre: On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: Oh, I wouldn't expect it to stop. The group has a bunch of unrelated stuff grouped into one document. There seems to be consensus to do that, but it still runs counter to the conventio

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-12 Thread Robert Sayre
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: > >> >> Oh, I wouldn't expect it to stop. The group has a bunch of unrelated stuff >> grouped into one document. There seems to be consensus to do that, but it >> still runs counter to the conventional wisdom. > > Can you point to specific

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-12 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
> -Original Message- > From: Robert Sayre [mailto:say...@gmail.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 4:19 PM > To: Eran Hammer-Lahav > Cc: Prateek Mishra; oauth@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt > > On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 1:

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-12 Thread Robert Sayre
On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 1:08 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: > > And this is truly *not* aimed at anyone in particular: I'm getting tired of > people lecturing the group about what makes a good standard. Oh, I wouldn't expect it to stop. The group has a bunch of unrelated stuff grouped into one doc

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-12 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
ateek.mis...@oracle.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 9:39 AM > To: Eran Hammer-Lahav > Cc: oauth@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt > > Eran, > > I want to support the idea of a minimal specification, that supports the basic >

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-12 Thread Prateek Mishra
Paul Madsen Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 3:57 AM To: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt But client_secret is not defined specific to a given flow - its used by the web server, user name, and client credentials flows. I can find no mention of the client us

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-12 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
cope. We define a parameter just for that called > client_secret. If you want to use something else, you need to define an > extension that replaces that with something else. > >> > >> EHL > >> > >> > >>> -Original Message- > &g

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-12 Thread Paul Madsen
auth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of axel.nenn...@telekom.de Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:22 PM To: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt I suggest a change to "3.4. Client Credentials When requesting access from the authorization server, the client

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-12 Thread Axel.Nennker
ec harder to read and implement for something that is not even proposed. EHL > -Original Message- > From: axel.nenn...@telekom.de [mailto:axel.nenn...@telekom.de] > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:43 PM > To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; oauth@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] I-D

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-11 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
ement for something that is not even proposed. EHL > -Original Message- > From: axel.nenn...@telekom.de [mailto:axel.nenn...@telekom.de] > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:43 PM > To: Eran Hammer-Lahav; oauth@ietf.org > Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-11 Thread Axel.Nennker
:30 AM To: Nennker, Axel; Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt Yes, the Client authenticating using a RSA key pair seems like it should be a different flow. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: > But it is

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-11 Thread Axel.Nennker
ahav [mailto:e...@hueniverse.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2010 8:25 AM To: Nennker, Axel; oauth@ietf.org Subject: RE: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt But it is not beyond the scope. We define a parameter just for that called client_secret. If you want to use something else, you n

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-11 Thread David Recordon
e request and thereby authenticate itself. >> The public key would need to be exchanged before out-of-band. Or it could >> be a certificate that is e.g. issued by the authorization server or a party >> that >> the authorization server trusts. >> >> -Origin

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-11 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
tf.org] On Behalf > Of axel.nenn...@telekom.de > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2010 11:22 PM > To: oauth@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt > > I suggest a change to > > "3.4. Client Credentials > >When requesting access

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-11 Thread Axel.Nennker
t: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:45 AM To: i-d-annou...@ietf.org Cc: oauth@ietf.org Subject: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Open Authentication Protocol Working Group of the IE

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-11 Thread Marius Scurtescu
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 2:29 PM, Paul Madsen wrote: > Hi Marius, I'm thinking the AS would create a 'dynamic' URI, embed it in a > QR code and add it to the response to the client (perhaps as you say in > addition to the raw URI & user code). There would be no user-code, as we > would no longer be

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-11 Thread Paul Madsen
Hi Marius, I'm thinking the AS would create a 'dynamic' URI, embed it in a QR code and add it to the response to the client (perhaps as you say in addition to the raw URI & user code). There would be no user-code, as we would no longer be constrained by the user's short-term memory for strings

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-11 Thread Marius Scurtescu
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:12 AM, Paul Madsen wrote: > Yes that's the idea. > > Where in the authorization server response would the QR code (or ref) go, > especially if it also includes the uri & user code? I don't know how QR codes are generated, but I was assuming that the device can generate o

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-11 Thread Paul Madsen
Yes that's the idea. Where in the authorization server response would the QR code (or ref) go, especially if it also includes the uri & user code? I don't see mention of an extensibility model by which additional params could be defined/added On 5/10/2010 2:03 PM, Marius Scurtescu wrote: O

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-10 Thread Marius Scurtescu
On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 6:20 AM, Paul Madsen wrote: > Related, is anybody thinking of a variant of the device flow where the > user-agent sits on a device with QR-code capabilities, and so the user > needn't type anything (uri or code)? The end user will point their phone to the device screen and

Re: [OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-10 Thread Paul Madsen
some feedback wrt the device flow - 'verification URI' and 'authorization URI' are used interchangeably - in the example messages, the verification code the client sends on its request for an access token is 'J2vC42OifV', not the same as that previously issued by the authorization server, name

[OAUTH-WG] I-D Action:draft-ietf-oauth-v2-04.txt

2010-05-09 Thread Internet-Drafts
A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Open Authentication Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : The OAuth 2.0 Protocol Author(s) : E. Hammer-Lahav, et al. Filename: dr