Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-21 Thread Eve Maler
:43 PM > To: OAuth WG > Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal > > Tacking this response to the end of the thread for lack of a better place to > do it: The name "username" seems not quite apt in the case of an autonomous > client that i

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-21 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
This is part of the delegation flows so username should be just fine... EHL From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eve Maler Sent: Wednesday, April 21, 2010 4:43 PM To: OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal Ta

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-21 Thread Eve Maler
like it either. But sometimes it is more efficient to make progress > and discuss such aspects in-depth when reaching milestones. > > regards, > Torsten. > >> >> EHL >> >> From: Torsten Lodderstedt [mailto:tors...@lodderstedt.net] >> Sent: T

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-21 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
m...@stanfordalumni.org; OAuth WG *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal In my experiences, such a review takes much longer than a few minutes. I think the whole specification should be subject to a comprehensive and in-depth security analysis (threat modeling,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-20 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Lahav Cc: jsm...@stanfordalumni.org; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal In my experiences, such a review takes much longer than a few minutes. I think the whole specification should be subject to a comprehensive and in-depth security analysis (threat mo

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-20 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
rward and add it to the draft. EHL *From:* Joseph Smarr [mailto:jsm...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:36 AM *To:* Eran Hammer-Lahav *Cc:* Evan Gilbert; OAuth WG *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal Just to add some more context from experience,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-20 Thread Brian Eaton
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:16 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: > Is that an objection to including a username parameter in the spec? Damn skippy. ___ OAuth mailing list OAuth@ietf.org https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/oauth

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-20 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Is that an objection to including a username parameter in the spec? EHL > -Original Message- > From: Brian Eaton [mailto:bea...@google.com] > Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 11:04 AM > To: Eran Hammer-Lahav > Cc: jsm...@stanfordalumni.org; OAuth WG > Subject: Re

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-20 Thread Brian Eaton
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:23 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: > I’m not aware of anyone arguing against this feature. The only issue is a > full security review before we add it to the spec. If one of the security > experts here can spend a few minutes to review this, we can move forward and > add it

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-20 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
l.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:36 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Evan Gilbert; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal Just to add some more context from experience, this "two users getting mixed together" problem happens a lot in practice,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-20 Thread Joseph Smarr
t:* Monday, April 19, 2010 5:17 PM > > *To:* Eran Hammer-Lahav > *Cc:* OAuth WG > *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:58 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav > wrote: > > Thanks. That makes sense. > > &

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-20 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
This attack is why the flow requires the client to present the callback it used again when getting the token. EHL From: Evan Gilbert [mailto:uid...@google.com] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 5:17 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' paramete

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-19 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Am 19.04.2010 22:37, schrieb Brian Eaton: On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Torsten Lodderstedt wrote: Do you mean the thread "Signatures, Why?" (http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/oauth/trac/wiki/SignaturesWhy)? I cannot remember that there was a consensus not to use signatures on requests to

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-19 Thread Evan Gilbert
herwise > > > I have no objections to this proposal but wanted to see some discussion and > support from others before adding it to the spec. > > > > EHL > > > > *From:* Evan Gilbert [mailto:uid...@google.com] > *Sent:* Monday, April 19, 2010 10:06 AM > *T

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-19 Thread Brian Eaton
On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 1:34 PM, Torsten Lodderstedt wrote: > Do you mean the thread "Signatures, Why?" > (http://trac.tools.ietf.org/wg/oauth/trac/wiki/SignaturesWhy)? > > I cannot remember that there was a consensus not to use signatures on > requests to the authorization server. I can. =)

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-19 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
Which is something we decided not to do when we discussed the use of signatures. EHL *From:* Torsten Lodderstedt [mailto:tors...@lodderstedt.net] *Sent:* Monday, April 19, 2010 12:19 PM *To:* Eran Hammer-Lahav *Cc:* Evan Gilbert; OAuth WG *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' pa

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-19 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Which is something we decided not to do when we discussed the use of signatures. EHL From: Torsten Lodderstedt [mailto:tors...@lodderstedt.net] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 12:19 PM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: Evan Gilbert; OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter pr

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-19 Thread Torsten Lodderstedt
wanted to see some discussion and support from others before adding it to the spec. EHL *From:* Evan Gilbert [mailto:uid...@google.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 19, 2010 10:06 AM *To:* Eran Hammer-Lahav *Cc:* OAuth WG *Subject:* Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal User 1

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-19 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
] Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 10:06 AM To: Eran Hammer-Lahav Cc: OAuth WG Subject: Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal User 1 is logged into Client site User 2 is logged into IDP site This can happen quite frequently, as client sites often have long-lived cookies and m

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-19 Thread Marius Scurtescu
The scenario described by Evan is showing a real issue and the username parameter is solving it. Not sure if there are other implications, but definitely worth discussing. Marius On Mon, Apr 19, 2010 at 10:06 AM, Evan Gilbert wrote: > User 1 is logged into Client site > User 2 is logged into I

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-19 Thread Evan Gilbert
User 1 is logged into Client site User 2 is logged into IDP site This can happen quite frequently, as client sites often have long-lived cookies and may only be visited by one user on a shared computer. Right now client site has no way to ask for a token for User 1, and end result will be that Us

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-19 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
How can they both be logged in? I have never seen a case where two users can be both logged into to the same service at the same time... EHL On 4/19/10 8:33 AM, "Evan Gilbert" wrote: More details on this enhancement. Goal: Make sure you get an access token for the right user in immediate mod

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-19 Thread Evan Gilbert
More details on this enhancement. Goal: Make sure you get an access token for the right user in immediate mode. Use case where we have problems if we don't have username parameter: 1. Bob is logged into a web site as b...@idp.com. 2. Mary (his wife) is logged into IDP on the same computer

[OAUTH-WG] Issue: 'username' parameter proposal

2010-04-15 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Evan Gilbert proposed a 'username' request parameter to allow the client to limit the end user to authenticate using the provided authorization server identifier. The proposal has not been discussed or supported by others, and has not received a security review. Proposal: Obtain further discussion