Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-30 Thread Lukas Rosenstock
+1 While it's good to have one document, it's better to have two good documents instead of one that we're unhappy with. There'll be Implementer's Guides and Tutorials later who will do the job of explaining how to make sense of the two (which of course doesn't mean I'm advocating specifications

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-30 Thread Dick Hardt
Note there will be three documents not two. The suggested change does not address the issue that myself and others had raised with having signatures be in the core. The suggestion was that having signatures be a different spec made them reusable by other groups and enabled a more comprehensive

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-30 Thread Dick Hardt
On 2010-09-30, at 11:33 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: -Original Message- From: Dick Hardt [mailto:dick.ha...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 7:45 AM The suggested change does not address the issue that myself and others had raised with having signatures be in the

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-29 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Mark Mcgloin [mailto:mark.mcgl...@ie.ibm.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 12:55 AM I echo Dick's sentiment, mildly -1 to splitting acquiring and using a token. It may not confuse people actively engaged in the WG but what about everyone else?

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-29 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
Thanks Mark. -Original Message- From: Mark Mcgloin [mailto:mark.mcgl...@ie.ibm.com] Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 8:28 AM I think acquiring and using a token can be considered core as you always need both. I don't have valid security consideration linkage between acquiring

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread Manger, James H
Sounds great Eran, 1. Add a parameter to the token response to include an extensible token scheme. Yes. I suggest a parameter named scheme. The value can be an HTTP authentication scheme name (eg scheme:BASIC) for which the response is providing credentials. Not all possibilities are

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread Justin Richer
+1 on the split. I think it's an elegant approach, and it won't be any harder to follow than a monolithic spec with multiple optional sections. Especially if we put together the right guidance as a gateway to the spec. OAuth 1.0 (and -a) really talk about three different things: how to get a

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread George Fletcher
+1 I think this is a great path forward On 9/28/10 2:25 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: (Please take a break from the other threads and read this with an open mind. I have tried to make this both informative and balanced.) --- IETF Process For those unfamiliar with the IETF process, we

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread Luke Shepard
Eran- Thanks for writing a great explanation of where we are so far. I agree that it makes sense to logically separate getting a token from using a token, and we should structure it so that there can be extension specs about how to use a token. It also seems clear that we should do some more

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Luke Shepard [mailto:lshep...@facebook.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 9:16 AM As far as the charter: this workgroup has had a focus on building an interoperable, easy-to-use, developer-friendly standard that is actually used. With the goal of

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread Brian Campbell
+1 seems like a pragmatic compromise On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Marius Scurtescu mscurte...@google.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:05 AM, George Fletcher gffle...@aol.com wrote: +1 I think this is a great path forward +1 Marius ___

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread John Panzer
+1. -- John Panzer / Google jpan...@google.com / abstractioneer.org http://www.abstractioneer.org/ / @jpanzer On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 11:25 PM, Eran Hammer-Lahav e...@hueniverse.comwrote: (Please take a break from the other threads and read this with an open mind. I have tried to make this

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread Keenan, Bill
+1 Eran, thanks for framing this up... On Sep 28, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Brian Campbell wrote: +1 seems like a pragmatic compromise On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 12:44 PM, Marius Scurtescu mscurte...@google.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 9:05 AM, George Fletcher gffle...@aol.com wrote: +1 I

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread Peter Saint-Andre
On 9/28/10 12:25 AM, Eran Hammer-Lahav wrote: (Please take a break from the other threads and read this with an open mind. I have tried to make this both informative and balanced.) --- IETF Process For those unfamiliar with the IETF process, we operate using rough consensus. This means

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread Lu, Hui-Lan (Huilan)
+1 The proposal makes sense. I particularly like the side effect that the use of access tokens is no longer bound to HTTP. Hui-Lan Lu From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread Lu, Hui-Lan (Huilan)
+1 The proposal makes sense. I particularly like the good side effect that the use of access tokens is no longer bound to HTTP. Hui-Lan Lu From: oauth-boun...@ietf.org [mailto:oauth-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Eran Hammer-Lahav Sent: Tuesday, September 28,

Re: [OAUTH-WG] Looking for a compromise on signatures and other open issues

2010-09-28 Thread Eran Hammer-Lahav
-Original Message- From: Dick Hardt [mailto:dick.ha...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 5:09 PM I am mildly concerned that breaking the spec into multiple parts makes it harder for the spec reader to understand what is going on. Where does a complete example of getting