Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: bumi

2008-07-16 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
YuP, tp yg 25 taon itu wholly Indonesia kan ato cuman masalah resources, inferred, proven, probablenya (tau tuh dia gimana ngitungnya.. apa mahal banget kan kalo tes atu-atu nge diamond drill di seluruh indonesia jadi dikira2 aja sebaran seams2nya..) kalo ga salah hipotesa minyak jg gitukan..

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: OOT ayam menyebrang versi OB

2008-07-11 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
ikutan ahh, hehehe (kocak kocak, ini kalo warga OB beneran jd Gath pasti suasana bakal Gerrr banget nihhh...) Pemain Besar ; The Theme Is: Crossing in disguisse hehehehehe I know this Chicken arghghIt's not that smart. If it's smart, CEC (Chicken

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: REKSADANA MASIH LAKU ? ATAU MAU BANGKRUT ? FM CURANG ?

2008-07-10 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
haha Soon We will pass the point of maximum distress., udah itu kayanya positif deh.  kalo driver dari harga adalah persepsi dan fundamental, secara fundamental bottomline dan operasi masih intact, infact bbrp masih buku growth. what's left is perception., dan peduli amat ama persepsi. harga

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: HINDARI SAHAM PERBANKAN!!===punteuun mau nanya ke kang ocoy..

2008-06-11 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
Temporary Grounded aja Bro Boyz., sedikit Kontemplasi., Kata Orang kalo kita Nunjuk orang kan 4 jari menunjuk diri kita sendiri., thats why when i accused Brother Hendrik's Lame-Analysis saya jadi mikir juga,nbsp;emangnya saya udah contribute-analysis macam apa??.nbsp; Biar Begitu2 Pak Hendrik

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: BUMI technical

2008-06-08 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
Me??,... Hmm Hmm.. Let See, Mungkin $73-$75 aja Dehh. You make most of your money in a bear market, you just don't realize it at the time, because you're able to buy good bussiness at cheap prices. And although it doesn't feel good because of the uncertainty, this is when the opportunities

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Fw: [saham] TBLA UHUY (my last mail please forward to OB)

2008-05-23 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
wah, Pak Eka Kan Peter Lynch nya OB., jangan cabut donk pak. saya yakin semua member masih crave ilmu2 en info2 FA dr Pak Eka. Saya sendiri juga masih pengen belajar en nyimak view2 investment ama Pak Eka. Respect Pak, Pls keep enlighten us. Godspeed! berli Agung [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Kang 'Rambo' Ocoy kemana ya?

2008-05-15 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
ah ane kaga kemane2 bang boyz, absen sebentar kmaren 2 hari cuti kerja buat bimbingan TA dan ngurusin tetek bengek TA, aje gile gw jg gatau kesambet apaan tiba2 kepikiran buat beresin TA en cepet2 nanggalin status mahasiswa immortal. hehehehe, tp ntar kalo bursa nya tiba2 seru lg urusan TA nya

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Bearish Messengers, Mana Nih?

2008-04-16 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
di almamater sayah (STAN), kurang jelas euy kalo utk umum ato engganya. kayaknya mah acara intern kemahasiswaan ato senat jd ga pake publikasi. tujuan pesertanya banyakan dr internal soalnya. ntar saya bagi handout materi yg saya sampein deh. ya ya entar saya coba dsana saya usulin bikin

Re: [obrolan-bandar] BEI - Bingungkan Emiten Investor

2008-04-14 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
haha., dark joke, bitter laugh... You make most of your money in a bear market, you just don't realize it at the time, because you're able to buy good bussiness at cheap prices. And although it doesn't feel good because of the uncertainty, this is when the opportunities are best.

Re: [obrolan-bandar] TBLA (was: Re: BEARISH TUH UDAH)

2008-04-14 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
hahahaha dr pagi udah banyak post2 kocak.., ni hari roman2nya bakal lumayan hepi nih... You make most of your money in a bear market, you just don't realize it at the time, because you're able to buy good bussiness at cheap prices. And although it doesn't feel good because of the

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Dangerous Times for Investor

2008-04-08 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
halah2., kan skrg ini konon bukan saatnya ngitung2 valuasi.. ah ya udah deh disharing yg simple., trick kuno but always useful. reverse enggineering, sort of testing the market price with our perception to see who's bullying who. pendekatannya begini(angkanya biar gampang

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Index regional MINUS pagi ini

2008-04-07 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
Peace dah., here's a nice writing on how FA TA Sentiments were combined Investor sentiment is at its lowest since 1990 and second lowest since the American Association of Individual Investors (AAII) sentiment indicator began in 1987. On 2/7/08, the 8-week moving average bull/bear

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Peluang di Equity .... AMCI-AALI 080228

2008-03-02 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
Salam Pak James. Yg Research Vacancy pak, kalo saya boleh tau minta informasinya... thanks, Bagus.P.Perdana ([EMAIL PROTECTED],com) James Liem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mohon ijin ke para senior u/ menyampaikan informasi sbb : Melihat pegerakkan pasar yg

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Prospek MEDC

2008-02-12 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
pake debt sih pilihannya kalo kurang, tp sebisa mungkin dr working capital dulu (tambahan kas dr apex) ato dr equity (raise-off medco global issue)... kalo ampe kurang dana sih kayanya mepet2 paling kalo obligasi ga sempet dy bisa pinjeman bank.. ato minta ke venture, kalo senoro ama area47 sih

Re: [obrolan-bandar] ujian WPPE

2008-02-04 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
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Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: tanya (RevenueVsTP),. Embah, KangOcoy, PakDE,. or anyone could help/?

2008-02-04 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
Net Gearing = total hutang dikurangi kas dibagi jumlah total (hutang dikurangi kas + BookValue Equity), alias total hutang dikurangi kas dibagi total aset DPS = Dividend per saham NAVS = total aset dikurang total liabilities dibagi jumlah saham. NAVS mirip book value of equity hanya kalo ada

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Market Outlook

2008-02-01 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
err, kalo terhitung mulai november.. amerika belum bilang resesi sebelom paling engga 2 qtr berturut2 decline.. paling cepet ngaku juga 5 bulan berturut2.. november-desember-januari-februari-maret... nah baru ngaku paling di april tuh(data maret)... lah kalo sebelum april harga2 udah normal

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Terlalu Banyak yang Berpersepsi Buruk tentang AS

2008-01-30 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
he2, sori pak... tp bpk ga pake margin kan??... gapapa pak, santay ajah... ntar jg balik... kalo stress ntar saya kirimin Stock for the long run-jeremy siegel deh pak.. obat stress kalo market lg turun tuh.. huehehehehehehe... You make most of your money in a bear market, you just don't

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Terlalu Banyak yang Berpersepsi Buruk tentang AS

2008-01-30 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
lagi runyam. Salam --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Bagus Perdana kang_ocoy_maen_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: he2, sori pak... tp bpk ga pake margin kan??... gapapa pak, santay ajah... ntar jg balik... kalo stress ntar saya kirimin Stock for the long run-jeremy siegel deh pak.. obat

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Herald - Hati-hati saja

2008-01-30 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
sebenernya kalo BUMI ga dapet herald jg gapapa sihh, malah rada bagus deh soalnya BUMI bisa lebih fokus ke Batubara, lagian kalo diatas $2.5 alamat BEP nya makin lama.., jual yg udah ada skrg di harga ANTM jg dapet gain seuprit hehehe... nah kalo ANTM sih emang udah format dasarnya

Re: [obrolan-bandar] kenapa pada minus?

2008-01-29 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
akhir bulan aje kali pada mo ambil duit buat jajan... he3x You make most of your money in a bear market, you just don't realize it at the time, because you're able to buy good bussiness at cheap prices. And although it doesn't feel good because of the uncertainty, this is when the

Re: [obrolan-bandar] A DREMAN Disciple (FORWARDED)

2008-01-28 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
and he is a remarkable Value-Investor... keren mbah, kaya embah jg.. PIG konsep... A self-fulfilling prophecy of endless possibilty You roll in reams across the street In algebra, in algebra You're playing a part Playing a part And there's no time There's no time To analyse Analyse

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: TA will take control TODAY

2008-01-28 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
(value buat perhitungan? ), lalu investment value long term value? Trims banget Kang! --- In obrolan-bandar@ yahoogroups. com, Bagus Perdana kang_ocoy_maen_ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sori pak baru buka imel yg khusus OB ini lg... abis pelatihan seminggu diluar... wah, gini aja deh pak.. saya

Re: [obrolan-bandar] An Hour iwearing Buffet's Spectacle , VALUASI ANTAM ala Buffet...

2007-10-31 Terurut Topik Bagus Perdana
ga, cuman memang formula ini memperkirakan adalah mustahil growth melebihi cost of capital, dan kalopun terjadi itu ga akan konstan di tahun2 berikutnya. G harus lebih kecil dari K andai growth melebihi cost of capital, sisakan saja angka positif di hitungan terkecil misalnya 0.001, tapi