Mungkin mobil Roy Royce kaleee.
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From: hexam...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:50:59
To:
Subject: Re: [ob] CUT LOSS
RR apa y pak?
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Itu mah gampang... Right Issue aja, beres. hueuhueuheu..
Pada 17 Desember 2009 20:55, Gombal Suwek menulis:
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> Waduh kalau para sesepuh dan boss boss udah kumpul . semua ilmu
> sakti mandraguna bakalan keluar.
>
> Bagi newbie kayak ane ikutin aja prinsip kapitalis karena bursa sa
: Re: Bls: [ob] CUT LOSS
Waduh kalau para sesepuh dan boss boss udah kumpul . semua ilmu
sakti mandraguna bakalan keluar.
Bagi newbie kayak ane ikutin aja prinsip kapitalis karena bursa saham
adalah perwujudan falsafat kapitalis yg paling murni:
Tujuan akhir transaksi di pasar saham
Kalau pakai standar sering bias Pak, ntar saya lihat ya
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From: I_R_G_7_I
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2009 08:23:40
To:
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] CUT LOSS
Masih standar (Tdk punya Add on nya).
Saya optimasi manual deh.
Sekalian BUMI (chart
:06:18
To:
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] CUT LOSS
Pak Tasrul
Dari chart BBNI, BBRI, BBCA dan WIKA (terlampir), mana yg akumulasi dan
alasannya apa ?
Kalau saya sih BBNI yg paling oke (safe).
Thanks
2009/12/18
>
>
> Lagi proses akumulasi, namun cek dulu MFI nya di area berapa ?
>
Lagi proses akumulasi, namun cek dulu MFI nya di area berapa ?
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From: ruzli...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 14:13:14
To:
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] CUT LOSS
Pak Tasrul, mau tanya, kalau MFI nya cenderung naik tetapi Price nya malah
r-square nya dimana pak dean?
LRS nya apakah sama dengan punya p.tasrul yang udah di optimasi?
Dari: Dean Earwicker
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Kam, 17 Desember, 2009 22:16:23
Judul: Re: Bls: [ob] CUT LOSS
Very nice explanation. Thanks
Very nice explanation. Thanks. Eh, ternyata di hots ada loh R-Square sama
LRS...
Pada 17 Desember 2009 21:41, JT menulis:
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Risk n Reward
On 12/17/09, hexam...@yahoo.com wrote:
> RR apa y pak?
>
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> -Original Message-
> From: Tommy Yu
> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:19:39
> To:
> Subject: Re: [ob]
Ikut WS nya aje..
Nanti di Robot nya ditambahin coding Optimasi
-Original Message-
From: Dean Earwicker
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 21:14:12
To:
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] CUT LOSS
Ow, saya salah paham kalo gitu. Jadi intinya cari saham yang gerakannya
sopan (tidak bergerak diluar pakem
Master Tasrul emang ilmu matematikanya kagak ada yang lawan. Saya aja jaman
sekolah cuman dapet ongkos nulis doang.
2009/12/17
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>
> R squared disini adalah melihat keteraturan pergerakkannya terhadap periode
> analisis saham itu sendiri, jadi independent variabelnya periode semntra
> dependent
RR maksudnya risk & reward brader.
Regards
DvD™
"In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum"
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From: hexam...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:50:59
To:
Subject: Re: [ob] CUT LOSS
RR apa y pak?
Sent from my BlackBer
ullilah
> terhindar dari salah beli dan jual dan bisa nyuri start duluan he he, saham
> apa aja bisa Pak DE.
>
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> *From: * Dean Earwicker
> *Date: *Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:23:30 +0700
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: Bl
Pak Tasrul, mau tanya, kalau MFI nya cenderung naik tetapi Price nya malah
turun/sideways itu indikasi apa ?
Tks
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From: tasru...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:37:59
To: Obrolan Bandar
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] CUT LOSS
Kalau saya gampang aja Pak DE, saham yg gak
terhindar dari salah
beli dan jual dan bisa nyuri start duluan he he, saham apa aja bisa Pak DE.
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From: Dean Earwicker
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 20:23:30
To:
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] CUT LOSS
R-Square nya di pair dengan IHSG atau LQ45
Waduh kalau para sesepuh dan boss boss udah kumpul . semua ilmu
sakti mandraguna bakalan keluar.
Bagi newbie kayak ane ikutin aja prinsip kapitalis karena bursa saham
adalah perwujudan falsafat kapitalis yg paling murni:
Tujuan akhir transaksi di pasar saham adalah :
"Bijimana caran
versal di level 0 dan yang mendekati 0 ntar kalau market
> running minggu depan dan ada inikasi naik saya akan posting saham tsb.
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> *From: * Dean Earwicker
> *Date: *Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:03:34 +0700
> *To: *
> *
running minggu depan dan ada
inikasi naik saya akan posting saham tsb.
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-Original Message-
From: Dean Earwicker
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:03:34
To:
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] CUT LOSS
Wah, timeframe jangan di ubah di tengah jalan,.. berabe atuh.. Kalau
keputusan
RR apa y pak?
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-Original Message-
From: Tommy Yu
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 19:19:39
To:
Subject: Re: [ob] CUT LOSS
Setuju prof, Beda group n beda sector, pilih yg paling kuat. Yg RR
paling bagus. 3-4 stock
gt; group tsb, semua bisa nyungsep..., contoh actual ya si Sakrie lah...
>
> JT
>
> www.jsxtrader.com
>
> “ Trade By Rules, Not HOPE “
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "11:11"
> Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:15:06
> To:
> Subject: Re: [ob] CUT LOSS
iya gua aja bingung... :) kaya kesirep gitu.. huahaha..
Pada 17 Desember 2009 19:08, JT menulis:
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> Gampang…, pan udh dibikinin tools-nya sama Pak DE…, orang udh susah2
> bikin kagak dimanfaatin sih…. liat nih chart dibawah waktu BUMI jebol 2425
> tgl 14/12…., robotnya Boss DE dgn jelas suru
2009 11:29:25
To:
Subject: Re: [ob] CUT LOSS
Weleh..weleh..., koleksinya banyak amat pak? Saran saya, jgn mengkoleksi
beberapa saham dari group yg sama..., sebab jika ada sentimen jelek thd group
tsb, semua bisa nyungsep..., contoh actual ya si Sakrie lah...
JT
www.jsxtrader.com
“ Trade By
: Bls: [ob] CUT LOSS
Cara gampang supaya untung main saham:
Beli pas mau naik
Jual pas mau turun
Regards,
DE
Pada 17 Desember 2009 16:44, dario kurniawan
menulis:
dont wori..senen besok kl bumi gap down sikat ajabumi dibawah 2000??
nehi lah...
sengaja banget dibikin stress
Saudaranya Sakrie ya? Doyan amat Wkwkwkk
Salam,
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From: kokol...@yahoo.co.id
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 11:31:52
To:
Subject: Re: [ob] CUT LOSS
Iya pak..portfolio jangan banyak2, maksimal tujuh lah,
sumi,elty,enrg,unsp,dewa,bnbr
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From: "11:11"
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:15:06
To:
Subject: Re: [ob] CUT LOSS
Terima kasih buat pak JT
Nasihatnya bener2 bikin adem
Apalagi saya koleksi brg2 nyangkut
medc, brpt, inco, bmtr, mncn, fren, gtbo, tins, *Sumi, *Sewa, *Snsp, *Snrg
Hiks kebun cabe...
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To:
Subject: Re: [ob] CUT LOSS
Wah, banyak sekali pak.. Saya hitung ada 12 emiten.. Ngga pusing managenya tuh
pak?
Saya kalo megang 6 aja rasanya udah kbanyakan.. Hehe..
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From: "
Dah lupain aje mare kt plg n hepi2 ma keluarge... Senin kita meen bola lagi
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From: B_ND
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:56:09
To:
Subject: Re: [ob] CUT LOSS
Iya Prof, saya cutloss juga tadi. kemarin sempet seneng juga
Bener yg penting cool,kalem & conpident n musti extra sabarr. Ini cm test
mental bt trader. Yg ptg jgn pk margin aje..
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-Original Message-
From: Dean Earwicker
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 18:03:34
To:
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] CUT
9 10:15:06
To:
Subject: Re: [ob] CUT LOSS
Terima kasih buat pak JT
Nasihatnya bener2 bikin adem
Apalagi saya koleksi brg2 nyangkut
medc, brpt, inco, bmtr, mncn, fren, gtbo, tins, *Sumi, *Sewa, *Snsp, *Snrg
Hiks kebun cabe...
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-Original Message-
From: "JT&
Wkwkwkwkw keknya pengalaman prebade nehhh...
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-Original Message-
From: David Lau
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 02:41:39
To:
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] CUT LOSS
Yang repotnya,... bagi kita yg ilmunya belum setinggi prof JT & boss DE itu
gt;
>
> --
> *From:* Dean Earwicker
>
> *To:* obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> *Sent:* Thu, December 17, 2009 4:56:52 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: Bls: [ob] CUT LOSS
>
>
>
> Cara gampang supaya untung main saham:
>
>
> Beli pas mau n
Iya Prof, saya cutloss juga tadi. kemarin sempet seneng juga hammer nongol,
tau-nya gak jadi...Ya sutra lah...::(
salam,
2009/12/17 JT
>
>
> Maaf teman-teman, saya paham gimana rasanya nyangkut.., ane ngga maksud
> apa-apa nih, tapi sekedar mengingatkan saja, dan memberikan contoh di BUMI,
;
Subject: [ob] CUT LOSS
Maaf teman-teman, saya paham gimana rasanya nyangkut.., ane ngga maksud
apa-apa nih, tapi sekedar mengingatkan saja, dan memberikan contoh di BUMI,
betapa pentingnya CUT LOSS bagi seorang trader., CUT LOSS level pada saat
downtrend harus KETAT., NO Mercy, just ENTER saat
nah itu dia yg susah Pak DE, apalagi nyubi kayak ane.
Paling yg ada Edi Tansil dah (ejakulasi dini tanpa hasil) hehe
bullish: Masuk terlambet, keluar kecepetan
bearish: masuk kecepetan, keluar telambet
2009/12/17 Dean Earwicker
>
>
> Cara gampang supaya untung main saham:
>
> Beli pas mau naik
: [ob] CUT LOSS
Dari perspektif psikologis:
"Bull markets are born on pessimism, grow on skepticism, mature on optimism,
and die on euphoria. The time of maximum pessimism is the best time to buy, and
the time of maximum optimism is the best time to sell."
– Sir John Templet
ni bener bener berat.
Regards,...
DvD™
"In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum"
From: Dean Earwicker
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 4:56:52 PM
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] C
Seandainya zig-zag itu bisa dipake buat indikator..hehehe...
MD
2009/12/17 Dean Earwicker
>
>
> Cara gampang supaya untung main saham:
>
> Beli pas mau naik
> Jual pas mau turun
>
>
>
> Regards,
> DE
>
> Pada 17 Desember 2009 16:44, dario kurniawan
> menulis:
>
>
>>
>> dont wori..senen besok
:
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] CUT LOSS
Cara yg paling tepat.
Pak DE.
Hanya bagaimana caranya untuk bisa tau mau naik atau mau turun sebelumnya
??
pakai indikator apa ?
ini yg saya nga tau cara nya !
trims
Likman
2009/12/17 Dean Earwicker
>
>
> Cara gampang supaya untung main saham:
Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:56:52
> To:
> Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] CUT LOSS
>
> Cara gampang supaya untung main saham:
>
> Beli pas mau naik
> Jual pas mau turun
>
>
>
> Regards,
> DE
>
> Pada 17 Desember 2009 16:44, dario kurniawan
> menulis:
>
> &g
Kalo support n resistnya banyak bijimana?
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-Original Message-
From: hexam...@yahoo.com
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 10:05:59
To:
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] CUT LOSS
Bahasa TA nya,
Buy near support
Sell near resistance ya pak DE?
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Ane udah buang sampah tadi. Fiuh.. Sampah busuk! Porsi bumi ane gak
banyak tp makan hampir 80% cuan porto ane yg lain.
On 12/17/09, JT wrote:
> Maaf teman-teman, saya paham gimana rasanya nyangkut.., ane ngga maksud
> apa-apa nih, tapi sekedar mengingatkan saja, dan memberikan contoh di BUMI,
>
Nah, itu part yg plg susah boss... :)
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-Original Message-
From: Dean Earwicker
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:56:52
To:
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] CUT LOSS
Cara gampang supaya untung main saham:
Beli pas mau naik
Jual pas mau turun
Cara yg paling tepat.
Pak DE.
Hanya bagaimana caranya untuk bisa tau mau naik atau mau turun sebelumnya
??
pakai indikator apa ?
ini yg saya nga tau cara nya !
trims
Likman
2009/12/17 Dean Earwicker
>
>
> Cara gampang supaya untung main saham:
>
> Beli pas mau naik
> Jual pas mau tur
Bahasa TA nya,
Buy near support
Sell near resistance ya pak DE?
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-Original Message-
From: Dean Earwicker
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:56:52
To:
Subject: Re: Bls: [ob] CUT LOSS
Cara gampang supaya untung main
Cara gampang supaya untung main saham:
Beli pas mau naik
Jual pas mau turun
Regards,
DE
Pada 17 Desember 2009 16:44, dario kurniawan
menulis:
>
>
> dont wori..senen besok kl bumi gap down sikat ajabumi dibawah 2000??
> nehi lah...
> sengaja banget dibikin stress orang2...
> yg ngasih val
Thanks prof JT...selama duit adem mah diem aja deh..toh ga akan kena forced
sell ini
(Korban goyangan maut sumi)
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From: "JT"
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:16:57
To: ;
Subject: [ob] CUT LOSS
Maaf teman-teman, saya pa
valuasinya.hehehe...BTS = Back To Sabarhappy wiken
Dario Amran
Dari: "sada0...@yahoo.com"
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Kam, 17 Desember, 2009 16:26:59
Judul: Re: [ob] CUT LOSS
Makasi bange
Trading by rules, not by hope
btw udah siap botak blm boss ?
Happy holiday for all OB Citizen
regards
From: JT
To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com; jsxtra...@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, December 17, 2009 4:16:57 PM
Subject: [ob] CUT LOSS
Maaf teman-teman
Makasi banget Prof bwt doanya..
Berasa bener n kena bener bwt Kaum Nyangkuters kyk ane.. ;'(
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From: "JT"
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 16:16:57
To: ;
Subject: [ob] CUT LOSS
Maaf teman-teman, saya paham gimana rasanya
Maaf teman-teman, saya paham gimana rasanya nyangkut.., ane ngga maksud
apa-apa nih, tapi sekedar mengingatkan saja, dan memberikan contoh di BUMI,
betapa pentingnya CUT LOSS bagi seorang trader., CUT LOSS level pada saat
downtrend harus KETAT., NO Mercy, just ENTER saat level tsb di hit (close)
!
Mbah berarti kalo mau trading dgn alligator harus pakai data intraday ya?
Makasih
hhehee...
>
>
>
>
>
> Dari: Dean Earwicker
> Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
> Terkirim: Jum, 27 November, 2009 18:16:38
> Judul: Re: Can we trade without mikirin DUBAI ?Re: [ob] To Senior OB:
> Cut Loss or Hold?
>
>
> kok 19 o
iya..yaPak De Betul cukup dan sangat Cermat..
hehhehee...
Dari: Dean Earwicker
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Jum, 27 November, 2009 18:16:38
Judul: Re: Can we trade without mikirin DUBAI ?Re: [ob] To Senior OB: Cut
Loss or Hold
Kemungkinan besok dibuka bear n that's our oppotunity kita rasanya untuk dpt
brg disc, berharap rebound d hari itu juga.. (Ngarep.com)
Disc: ON Banget..
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+ +
+ + + + +
Mohon saa
penurunan yg di sebabkan panic seling
dan dalam..
biasanya cepat rebound...
disclamer on.
salam
kobayashi.
Dari: Kaisar
Kepada: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com
Terkirim: Jum, 27 November, 2009 15:25:43
Judul: [ob] To Senior OB: Cut Loss or Hold?
Kepada para
kok 19 oktober sih..?
2009/11/27 jsx_consultant
>
> http://www.obrolanbandar.com/pwlptba.png
>
> - Masih berjalan didalam lorong
>
Muchas Gracias, Mbah...
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From: "jsx_consultant"
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 11:05:22
To:
Subject: Can we trade without mikirin DUBAI ?Re: [ob] To Senior OB: Cut
Loss or Hold?
http://www.obrolanbandar.com/pwlptba.png
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--Original Message-
> From: "jsx_consultant"
> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:46:16
> To:
> Subject: Can we trade without mikirin DUBAI ?Re: [ob] To Senior OB: Cut
> Loss or Hold?
>
> Openingnya memang susah kalo bursa lagi Volatile ...
>
> --- In obrolan-ban
Rumput di Eropa mulai tumbuh
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From: Cougar Boy
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 17:32:58
To:
Subject: Re: Can we trade without mikirin DUBAI ?Re: [ob] To Senior OB:
Cut Loss or Hold
Maksudnya Mbah? Opening harganya?
Kalo itu iya sih...tp maksudnya overall trend...
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From: "jsx_consultant"
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:46:16
To:
Subject: Can we trade without mikirin DUBAI ?Re: [ob] To Senior OB: Cut
Lo
From: "jsx_consultant"
> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:24:40
> To:
> Subject: Can we trade without mikirin DUBAI ?Re: [ob] To Senior OB: Cut
> Loss or Hold?
>
> Dancing with the market bisa dilakukan TANPA PERLU baca
> berita tentang Dubai:
>
> - Always Dance
Mbah, kalo buayanya ptba gmn? Sptnya msh safe yah? Gak tahu Senin...
Trims mbah!
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From: "jsx_consultant"
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 10:24:40
To:
Subject: Can we trade without mikirin DUBAI ?Re: [ob] To Senior OB: Cut
Lo
ores' by Fonseco..saya
> ikutin irama bursa..
> >
> > There's always an opportunity in every situation..as long as u want to
> see it..
> >
> > dts
> > Sent from my BlackBerry®
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:24:40
To:
Subject: Can we trade without mikirin DUBAI ?Re: [ob] To Senior OB: Cut
Loss or Hold?
Dancing with the market bisa dilakukan TANPA PERLU baca
berita tentang Dubai:
- Always Dance ABOVE the alligator on an UPWARD impulse on
intraday chart
- NEVER trade on DOWNDTREND wave except
dts
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> -Original Message-
> From: tarsim0...@...
> Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:33:25
> To: David Lau;
> Subject: Re: [ob] To Senior OB: Cut Loss or Hold?
>
> Semua gak berani keluar rumah,kan ramal
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From: tarsim0...@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2009 08:33:25
To: David Lau;
Subject: Re: [ob] To Senior OB: Cut Loss or Hold?
Semua gak berani keluar rumah,kan ramalan cuaca blg hujan akan mengguyur
seluruh tmpt di indonesia,dibarengi ama angin yg kencang lg...jd m
Market Eropa sdh mulai stabil tuh, jd senin nunggu market stabil aja
baru take decision : hold or CL. Mungkin aja BD kirim fear pake gap
down, agar pd CL.
-LT
On 11/27/09, Kaisar wrote:
> Kepada para senior2 OB atau siapapun yang mau kasih penerawangan.. Apa yang
> sebaiknya dilakukan hari Senin
To:
Subject: Re: [ob] To Senior OB: Cut Loss or Hold?
Kayaknya semakin berat ya.. menghadapi hari senin? bakalan gap down kah...?
Regards,...
DvD™
"In Te Domine, Speravi Non Confundar In Aeternum"
From: Kaisar
T
libur.
Ya..jadi met liburan dulu dech..
Salam
Kobayashi.
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Dari: "David Lau"
Tanggal: 27-11-2009 15.30
Kayaknya semakin berat ya.. menghadapi hari seni
27, 2009 3:25:43 PM
Subject: [ob] To Senior OB: Cut Loss or Hold?
Kepada para senior2 OB atau siapapun yang mau kasih penerawangan. . Apa yang
sebaiknya dilakukan hari Senin? Apakah lebih baik Cut Loss? Atau Hold..
Kalau cut liss berapa level cut loss dan entry lagi sebaiknya.
Trims.
Kaisar.
Kepada para senior2 OB atau siapapun yang mau kasih penerawangan.. Apa yang
sebaiknya dilakukan hari Senin? Apakah lebih baik Cut Loss? Atau Hold..
Kalau cut liss berapa level cut loss dan entry lagi sebaiknya.
Trims.
Kaisar.
mending cuttloss apa nggak yaaa...kok ke depan makin buram yaaa..
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