Re: eol-style (Re: Podling website) - Plus Mime types

Note: this just helps with the initial addition of files. Subversion doesn't require that everybody sets up their configuration this way. If somebody does set a mime type... fine, another person can. Subversion won't do anything to the file in the interim :-P On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 00:12, Dennis

Re: svn commit: r1137103 - in /incubator/ooo/site: ./ trunk/ trunk/cgi-bin/ trunk/content/ trunk/content/openofficeorg/ trunk/content/openofficeorg/css/ trunk/content/openofficeorg/docs/ trunk/content

fyi: I removed these weird properties (never seen 'em), and added svn:eol-style to the files. I also updated the mime type on the png files. On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 23:55, Greg Stein wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 20:43,   wrote: >>... >> Propchange: incubator/ooo/site/ >> -

RE: eol-style (Re: Podling website) - Plus Mime types

I've already updated the config for my SVN client. I'm yet to upload anything to make sure it all works. It would probably be useful, for us, to add the MIME Types for the OpenDocument Format extensions too. ### Registered MIME Types for OpenDocument Format Documents (as of 2011-06-17) # *.od

Re: svn commit: r1137103 - in /incubator/ooo/site: ./ trunk/ trunk/cgi-bin/ trunk/content/ trunk/content/openofficeorg/ trunk/content/openofficeorg/css/ trunk/content/openofficeorg/docs/ trunk/content

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 20:43, wrote: >... > Propchange: incubator/ooo/site/ > -- >    bugtraq:number = true > > Propchange: incubator/ooo/site/trunk/ >

svn:eol-style (Re: Podling website)

On 18 June 2011 02:19, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Probably need to fix the svn:eol-style on several of those files, http://www.apache.org/dev/svn-eol-style.txt Ross

Re: Podling website

Thanks, Joe! -Rob On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Ok the site is live at http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ > > Probably need to fix the svn:eol-style on several of those files, > but it should work in either case. > > > - Original Message > > From: Dennis

Re: Podling website

Ok the site is live at http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/ Probably need to fix the svn:eol-style on several of those files, but it should work in either case. - Original Message > From: Dennis E. Hamilton > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 9:04:47 PM

RE: Podling website

Cool. I pulled the Updates and it even merged my added site/ folder with your stuff. Must find something to commit now to confirm that my setup works. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:apa...@robweir.com] Sent: Friday, June 17, 2011 17:52 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache

RE: User facing web items

Wow, Stack Overflow. Interesting. Not sure how it would work for (power) users in the case of OOo, but definitely something to think about. I'd vote for same as, but don't know if that's workable. A lot depends on how well search can be made to work so users can find existing threads on th

Re: Podling website - Access Denied

Thanks. Worked like a charm. And I must say that it is wonderful to be able to verify that the ooo-commits list works as well ;-) -Rob On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote: > Try again Rob, I just gave you and Dennis commit access. > > > > - Original Message > > From:

Re: Podling website

Thanks. Website checked in and JIRA ticket entered [1]. The website will need some work to flesh out the content. But at least now that the framework is there it should be easy to parallelize the contributions once the CMS is hooked up to it. [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-3703

Re: Podling website - Access Denied

Try again Rob, I just gave you and Dennis commit access. - Original Message > From: Rob Weir > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Fri, June 17, 2011 8:39:43 PM > Subject: Re: Podling website - Access Denied > > Same thing here. I'm ready to check in the whole site. But I get

Re: Podling website - Access Denied

Same thing here. I'm ready to check in the whole site. But I get this error when committing: access to '/repos/asf/!svn/ver/1135683/incubator/ooo' forbidden I am using https, so it isn't that problem. Do I need karma? Or does someone need to create the /site directory? -Rob On Fri, Jun 17,

Re: Podling website - Access Denied

Once it is, it works! David-Fishers-MacBook-Air:Documents dave$ svn co https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo Aooo/trunk Aooo/branches Aooo/tags Checked out revision 1137099. Nothing there yet. Have a good weekend. Regards, Dave On Jun 17, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Joe Schaefer wr

Re: Podling website - Access Denied

Your commit access to ooo hasn't been activated yet. Probably will happen after the next batch of accounts are created. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 17, 2011, at 8:26 PM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" wrote: I thought I'd try adding site/ at the ooo/ tree as a test (using Tortoise SVN and having alread

RE: Podling website - Access Denied

I thought I'd try adding site/ at the ooo/ tree as a test (using Tortoise SVN and having already done an SVN checkout). On the commit, I was prompted for my user ID (orcmid) and my password, but I got " Error: access to '/repos/asf/!svn/ver/1135683/incubator/ooo' forbidden" I am using

Re: User facing web items

On 18 June 2011 00:33, Andy Brown wrote: > "Is a forum the right solution today", good > question but I have seen flame wars break out over that very topic in some > mailing list.  I prefer mailing list but understand why end users prefer a > forum so I would support us keeping it. :-) Recently

Re: What do we do at Apache versus what do we do elsewhere?

On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 18:25 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > > > Just a small comment here: the "product documentation" in your first > > list is, I assume, the Help shipped with the product. > > > > There is another set of documentation, the use

Re: Native Language vs l10n

Yes, delegation is a very important aspect of Apache governance. All that's needed is a way for the PMC to ensure that any resources created for it will continue to be used properly. It doesn't mean someone has to actively police the lists, but it does mean someone on the PMC can distinguish bet

Re: User facing web items

Dave Fisher wrote: On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: On 17 June 2011 00:00, Andy Brown wrote: I have seen references to "user facing" web items, web pages, wiki and mailing list. What will happen to the forum at http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ ? It is an very u

Re: User facing web items

Hi Ross, Ross Gardler wrote: On 17 June 2011 00:00, Andy Brown wrote: I have seen references to "user facing" web items, web pages, wiki and mailing list. What will happen to the forum at http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ ? It is an very useful user facing asset that I would hate

Re: Podling website

I recommend using http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/site/trunk/content/openoffice.org/ for the markdown sources. The way to get everything into svn is to add them to the ooo tree the way you would any other code. Once the basic tree is established, file an INFRA Jira ticket to enabl

RE: Help integration (was What do we do at Apache versus what do we do elsewhere?)

There's an intermediate case: There is also on-line versions of the help files and, in the LibreOffice distributions I've been testing with, those are used if the separately-downloadable off-line help is not installed. (The OOo-dev 3.4 beta install that I have seems to have only the integrated

Re: OpenOffice.org Product Roadmap: made by whom ? was: Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module

On 16 June 2011 18:24, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Jun 16, 2011, at 9:59 AM, Donald Whytock wrote: > >> My two centimes... >> >> It sounds like what Martin is asking for is a mechanism whereby a >> sponsoring corporation or collection of corporations can take the >> corporate view and "throw money a

Re: What do we do at Apache versus what do we do elsewhere?

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:33 PM, Jean Hollis Weber wrote: > Just a small comment here: the "product documentation" in your first > list is, I assume, the Help shipped with the product. > > There is another set of documentation, the user docs, which mostly > produced by the community. These include

Re: Teams and Leads - where leadership lives (sermonette warning)

I forgot to mention that I've forwarded this mail to the community development list, I think Dennis' "sermonette" should find its way onto the community.apache.org site. I'd also like to ask Dennis if he would be OK with me posting it to the ComDev blog as "early observations about The Apache Way".

Re: Teams and Leads - where leadership lives (sermonette warning)

On 16 June 2011 19:27, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > SERMONETTE > > I know, in my case, this will take some awkward and uncomfortable > transformation of how I see myself in the context of coordinated activities.   > I'm already seeing, on the PPMC, that it takes something to learn to function > b

Re: User facing web items

On Jun 17, 2011, at 2:59 PM, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 17 June 2011 00:00, Andy Brown wrote: >> I have seen references to "user facing" web items, web pages, wiki and >> mailing list. What will happen to the forum at >> http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ ? It is an very useful user >

Re: Native Language vs l10n

Am 17.06.2011 23:15, schrieb Dave Fisher: [...] I like Rob's very direct 3 points. I would edit the language slightly. Strike the words "Strong existing" from 1) - the language project should not need to think about how strong they are - strong has differing cultural interpretations. For 3) "

Re: User facing web items

On 17 June 2011 00:00, Andy Brown wrote: > I have seen references to "user facing" web items, web pages, wiki and > mailing list.  What will happen to the forum at > http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/ ?  It is an very useful user > facing asset that I would hate to see lost.  If it is t

Re: External dependencies (was Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module)

On 17 June 2011 13:59, Jens-Heiner Rechtien wrote: ... > I knew this laziness with the copyright banner on files would hurt as some > day ... Fixing copyright headers was a never ending task, I guess this will > get better now :-) Checking licence headers is one of the due diligence process dur

Re: Podling website

On 17 June 2011 21:18, Rob Weir wrote: > 1) If I understand correctly, we put out markdown in > trunk/content/$projectname.  For us, is that trunk/content/ooo ?  or > trunk/content/openofficeorg ? Does it matter, so long as it is unique? > > I see the podling status page lists the ultimate URL as

Re: Native Language vs l10n

Am 06/17/2011 10:47 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: It will be interesting to see how this works in practice. For example, I know that translation will often result in strings that are longer than they were in English. This happens when translating to German, for example. This might require that a UI be

Re: Can we rationalize and formalize "a language project"?

Hi Ingrid and all, Good morning from Japan! Time Difference! Many things happen when I sleep. :) https://mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&shva=1#mbox/13092fb952d439e1 On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 4:10 AM, IngridvdM wrote: > Kazunari Hirano, can you say a word on this? Is there end > user support in Japane

Re: Podling website

On 17 June 2011 21:52, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> >> 2) I'm not seeing how I get these files initially loaded into the CMS.  I >> can see that once it is there, I can use the bookmarklet to do further >> edits.  But how do I bootstrap this? > > I don't h

Re: Can we rationalize and formalize "a language project"?

On 17 June 2011 16:44, IngridvdM wrote: > Am 17.06.2011 15:07, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: >> >> Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: > My understanding is that this contradicts the principles > of the Apache way, because choosing to talk in a native language other than > English is excluding most others from t

Re: Subversion history (was: Wiki, SVN, other resources)

Hi, Am 17.06.2011 14:55, schrieb Jens-Heiner Rechtien: > The OOO340 codeline contains the DEV300_m106 tag so OOO340 is definitely > branched of DEV300_m106, which is incidentally also the very last > milestone we did on DEV300. Using m103 does not make sense at all. But > if the grant includes all

Re: What do we do at Apache versus what do we do elsewhere?

On Fri, 2011-06-17 at 08:43 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: > I've seen several posts asking about how the core OOo development project > will relate to the other activities such as user forums, translations, > releases, language projects, etc. I thought it would be good to have a > single thread to discus

Re: Native Language vs l10n

Hi On 2011-06-17, at 15:49 , Rob Weir wrote: > 3) Language projects each appoint at least one member to join the Apache > OpenOffice project as a liaison. Let's see. The reason we didn't opt for this solution with OOo is because we had a conceivably *huge* number, and as it is, have probably som

Re: Subversion history (was: Wiki, SVN, other resources)

On Jun 17, 2011, at 1:12 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 08:55, Jens-Heiner Rechtien wrote: >> ... >> The OOO340 codeline contains the DEV300_m106 tag so OOO340 is definitely >> branched of DEV300_m106, which is incidentally also the very last milestone >> we did on DEV300. Using

Re: Subversion history (was: Wiki, SVN, other resources)

On 06/17/2011 10:12 PM, Greg Stein wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 08:55, Jens-Heiner Rechtien wrote: ... The OOO340 codeline contains the DEV300_m106 tag so OOO340 is definitely branched of DEV300_m106, which is incidentally also the very last milestone we did on DEV300. Using m103 does not mak

Re: Native Language vs l10n

On Jun 17, 2011, at 1:28 PM, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: > Dear Rob, > > Am 17.06.2011 21:49, schrieb Rob Weir: >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Manfred A. Reiterwrote: >>> Can you understand, that due to the nature of OOo it always >>> had very strong language specific communities, wich signifi

Re: Native Language vs l10n

How about language-spanning yet language-specific features such as right-to-left characters, multi-key characters, etc? Would this sort of requirement or issue area potentially start in a language group, get bumped to dev, and then propogated out to the language groups to test and feedback on? Do

Re: Native Language vs l10n

Hi Rob, I don't know how the technical workflow looks like. I was never involved in creating rollout packages. Here on the list are a lot of hackers from Hamburg. They have a lot of experience ;-) I must refer you to them. greetings M. Am 17.06.2011 22:47, schrieb Rob Weir: It will be interes

Re: Podling website

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > > 2) I'm not seeing how I get these files initially loaded into the CMS.  I > can see that once it is there, I can use the bookmarklet to do further > edits.  But how do I bootstrap this? I don't have much experience with the "new CMS", but it se

Re: Native Language vs l10n

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 16:28, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: >... > IF a spelling mistake and a correction of the same in favorite language> is actually core development, that needs to be covered by > a full blown PMC > then you probably need a round of refactoring in the core ;-). If it ends up in a

Re: Native Language vs l10n

It will be interesting to see how this works in practice. For example, I know that translation will often result in strings that are longer than they were in English. This happens when translating to German, for example. This might require that a UI be modified to fit the expanded strings. How w

Re: Native Language vs l10n

Hi Danese, Am 17.06.2011 21:57, schrieb Danese Cooper: +1 This proposal sounds workable to me. Of course part of Manfred's point was that there are also "core" l10n/i18n activities that would presumably now happen at Apache within the core project. IMHO, the language projects will find Apache

RE: Native Language vs l10n

Khirano san, On ooo-dev we are talking now about how to support language communities. Please help my understanding. I am ignorant. I have too many questions. Answer in parts may be good. - Dennis QUESTIONS Does the Japanese Language Project do any work to prepare distributions for the J

Re: Native Language vs l10n

Dear Rob, Am 17.06.2011 21:49, schrieb Rob Weir: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Manfred A. Reiterwrote: Can you understand, that due to the nature of OOo it always had very strong language specific communities, wich significantly contributed to the huge success of OOo? Interfering with the h

Re: Podling website

So I'm making some progress on the website. I've read through the CMS reference doc. I also downloaded the site from the Raven podling and customized the markdown. A few questions: 1) If I understand correctly, we put out markdown in trunk/content/$projectname. For us, is that trunk/content/oo

Re: Native Language vs l10n

+1 This proposal sounds workable to me. Of course part of Manfred's point was that there are also "core" l10n/i18n activities that would presumably now happen at Apache within the core project. IMHO, the language projects will find Apache a much more open "upstream" than were Sun/Oracle. Should

Re: Subversion history (was: Wiki, SVN, other resources)

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 08:55, Jens-Heiner Rechtien wrote: >... > The OOO340 codeline contains the DEV300_m106 tag so OOO340 is definitely > branched of DEV300_m106, which is incidentally also the very last milestone > we did on DEV300. Using m103 does not make sense at all. But if the grant > inc

Re: Native Language vs l10n

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:49 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > But I wonder whether one solution is this: > > 1) Strong existing language projects continue to operate independently, > according to their own rules. > > 2) They ensure that their work is all done under Apache 2.0 license so it is > usable by Apa

Re: Native Language vs l10n

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: > Can you understand, that due to the nature of OOo it always > had very strong language specific communities, wich significantly > contributed to the huge success of OOo? > > Interfering with the habits and cultures established within thes

Re: Native Language vs l10n

On Jun 17, 2011, at 12:08 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: > On 17 June 2011 19:55, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: > >> Hi Joe, all >> >> Am 17.06.2011 20:26, schrieb Joe Schaefer: >> >> Whatever ultimately gets created at Apache will require >>> active oversight by the (P)PMC. >>> >> > >> 1. does it have t

Re: Can we rationalize and formalize "a language project"?

Hi Ian, Louis, Ingrid, *, Am 17.06.2011 21:14, schrieb Ian Lynch: On 17 June 2011 19:04, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: Hi all, On 2011-06-17, at 13:59 , Ian Lynch wrote: On 17 June 2011 18:50, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: Hi Ingrid, *, Am 17.06.2011 17:44, schrieb IngridvdM: [...] Let's draw so

Re: Can we rationalize and formalize "a language project"?

On 2011-06-17, at 15:14 , Ian Lynch wrote: > But wouldn't that also be true of key marketing discussions too? Yes. Nothing is perfect. But that's also why we created the com@native-language list, and why I constantly tried to braid discussions into some semblance of coherence. But there is alw

Re: Can we rationalize and formalize "a language project"?

Ingrid, There's a fine chance that Khirano is asleep, as he lives in Japan. So, my comments inline. On 2011-06-17, at 15:10 , IngridvdM wrote: > Am 17.06.2011 19:50, schrieb Manfred A. Reiter: >> IMHO it is self-evident, that we need languages lists - at least for >> Endusers and an coordinati

Re: Can we rationalize and formalize "a language project"?

On 17 June 2011 19:04, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: > Hi all, > > On 2011-06-17, at 13:59 , Ian Lynch wrote: > > > On 17 June 2011 18:50, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: > > > >> Hi Ingrid, *, > >> > >> Am 17.06.2011 17:44, schrieb IngridvdM: > >> > >> My understanding is that this contradicts the princip

Re: Can we rationalize and formalize "a language project"?

Am 17.06.2011 19:50, schrieb Manfred A. Reiter: IMHO it is self-evident, that we need languages lists - at least for Endusers and an coordinating team ... if such lists are required from language speaker ... such as Kazunari Hirano san. Or do you think in outsourcing and splitting into ApacheOOo

Re: Native Language vs l10n

On 17 June 2011 19:55, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: > Hi Joe, all > > Am 17.06.2011 20:26, schrieb Joe Schaefer: > > Whatever ultimately gets created at Apache will require >> active oversight by the (P)PMC. >> > > 1. does it have to be that way... or are the rules made by man > Maybe delegation

Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? (was: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: > Hi Christian, > > On 2011-06-17, at 14:49 , Christian Lohmaier wrote: > >> Hi Louis, *, >> >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Louis Suarez-Potts >> wrote: >>> On 2011-06-17, at 11:58 , Christian Lohmaier wrote: > [...] >> But whoever r

Re: Native Language vs l10n

Hi Joe, all Am 17.06.2011 20:26, schrieb Joe Schaefer: Whatever ultimately gets created at Apache will require active oversight by the (P)PMC. 1. does it have to be that way... or are the rules made by man 2. do you think that OOo at Apache is comparable with all the other projects? We do

Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? (was: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

Hi Christian, On 2011-06-17, at 14:49 , Christian Lohmaier wrote: > Hi Louis, *, > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Louis Suarez-Potts > wrote: >> On 2011-06-17, at 11:58 , Christian Lohmaier wrote: >> >>> [extensions website basically down/non working for months] >> >> I also am planning o

Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? (was: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

Hi Louis, *, On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 7:28 PM, Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: > On 2011-06-17, at 11:58 , Christian Lohmaier wrote: > >> [extensions website basically down/non working for months] > > I also am planning on going to Oscon, for the CLS (community leadership > summit) and also for the sum

Re: Can we rationalize and formalize "a language project"?

Am 17.06.2011 20:04, schrieb Louis Suarez-Potts: Hi all, On 2011-06-17, at 13:59 , Ian Lynch wrote: On 17 June 2011 18:50, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: Hi Ingrid, *, Am 17.06.2011 17:44, schrieb IngridvdM: My understanding is that this contradicts the principles of the Apache way, because ch

Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? (was: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

Hi Dave, *, On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 7:17 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > The requirement that has been identified is for a type of IRC chat bot with > the Issue Tracker. (just to clarify - I guess you did understand it that way anyway: what is requestes is a way for a bot to easily retrieve summary

Re: Native Language vs l10n

Whatever ultimately gets created at Apache will require active oversight by the (P)PMC. We do have a small handful of language-specific user mailing lists, but there are people on the PMC responsible to see that the lists aren't being abused or misused or subject to spam. - Original Message

Native Language vs l10n

In going over the archives, it occurred to me that a small clarification would be useful. In OOo-land, we had two sorts of language projects. We had the classic l10n/i18n, which dealt with localization and internationalization. We also had "native-language" projects. This second sort set up h

Re: Can we rationalize and formalize "a language project"?

Hi all, On 2011-06-17, at 13:59 , Ian Lynch wrote: > On 17 June 2011 18:50, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: > >> Hi Ingrid, *, >> >> Am 17.06.2011 17:44, schrieb IngridvdM: >> >> My understanding is that this contradicts the principles of the Apache way, because choosing to talk in a native lan

Re: Can we rationalize and formalize "a language project"?

On 17 June 2011 18:50, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: > Hi Ingrid, *, > > Am 17.06.2011 17:44, schrieb IngridvdM: > > My understanding is that this contradicts the principles of the Apache >>> way, because choosing to talk in a native language other than English is >>> excluding most others from their

Re: Can we rationalize and formalize "a language project"?

Hi Ingrid, *, Am 17.06.2011 17:44, schrieb IngridvdM: [...] My understanding is that this contradicts the principles of the Apache way, because choosing to talk in a native language other than English is excluding most others from their possibility to participate. And if you have only english

Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? (was: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

Hi Christian, > I'm aware that the extensions site is hosted by OSUOSL, so I > cannot really blame "Oracle" but I also know that this is not a > for-free hosting, but that OSUOSL did receive compensation for running > the services (as I happened to be involved in approving this expense > in Decem

Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? (was: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

Hi Christian, et al., On 2011-06-17, at 11:58 , Christian Lohmaier wrote: > Hi Heiner, *, > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Jens-Heiner Rechtien > wrote: >> On 06/17/2011 04:42 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: >>> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Jens-Heiner Rechtien >>> wrote: On 06/17/

Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? (was: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

Hey Guys, The requirement that has been identified is for a type of IRC chat bot with the Issue Tracker. This is done currently in ASF for Infrastructure with JIRA. It might be possible for Bugzilla, but that is not currently used. That's not to say that Infra won't do it. We are looking for m

Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? (was: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

Hi Heiner, *, On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Jens-Heiner Rechtien wrote: > On 06/17/2011 04:42 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Jens-Heiner Rechtien >>  wrote: >>> On 06/17/2011 03:57 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Daniel Sha

Re: Can we rationalize and formalize "a language project"?

Am 17.06.2011 15:07, schrieb Andrea Pescetti: Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: I'd also like to modify the original OOo notion of a native language project. When I set them up, I did so with a focus on language not region. And you were right, there is no need to change it. Or, to be more precise, the

Re: Subversion history

Am 06/17/2011 01:40 PM, schrieb Marcus Lange: Am 06/17/2011 01:55 AM, schrieb Greg Stein: On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 19:00, Tor Lillqvist wrote: If you want the older binary releases, then make a proposal and a list. OK, I'll compile the list of archived release files. But would ASF be able to

Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? (was: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

Hi Christian, On 06/17/2011 04:42 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi Heiner, *, On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Jens-Heiner Rechtien wrote: On 06/17/2011 03:57 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Christian Lohmaier wrote on Fri, Jun 17, 2011

Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? (was: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

Christian Lohmaier wrote on Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 16:51:47 +0200: > Hi Daniel, *, > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Daniel Shahaf > wrote: > > > > To clarify: infra has a bot that does N things and one of them is the > > issue handling.  So the issue handling would have to be factored out > >

Re: OOo User Registrations and Improvement Program

Am 06/17/2011 04:39 PM, schrieb Andy Brown: Dave Fisher wrote: Hi All, I was curious about both the OpenOffice.org User Registration and the Oracle Improvement Program. Is this something that Oracle is willing to share? If only snapshots. (1) At some point we'll need to ask Oracle to redirect

Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? (was: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

Hi Daniel, *, On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > > To clarify: infra has a bot that does N things and one of them is the > issue handling.  So the issue handling would have to be factored out > before it can be reused. Issue handling is too much to say - all that IZBot does

Re: Can we rationalize and formalize "a language project"?

Hi Andrea, Louis, *, Am 17.06.2011 15:08 schrieb "Andrea Pescetti" : > > Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: > > I'd also like to modify the original OOo notion of a native language > > project. When I set them up, I did so with a focus on language not > > region. > > And you were right, there is no need to

Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? (was: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

Hi Heiner, *, On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Jens-Heiner Rechtien wrote: > On 06/17/2011 03:57 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: >> On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Daniel Shahaf >>  wrote: >>> Christian Lohmaier wrote on Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 13:43:04 +0200: >> >>> I'd be interested to know if bugz

Re: OOo User Registrations and Improvement Program

Dave Fisher wrote: Hi All, I was curious about both the OpenOffice.org User Registration and the Oracle Improvement Program. Is this something that Oracle is willing to share? If only snapshots. (1) At some point we'll need to ask Oracle to redirect registrations. (2) Is there any interest i

Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? (was: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

Christian Lohmaier wrote on Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 15:57:54 +0200: > Hi Daniel, *, > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Daniel Shahaf > wrote: > > Christian Lohmaier wrote on Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 13:43:04 +0200: > >> > > For jira the Infra team uses an IRC bot that interfaces with jira (and > > ca

OOo User Registrations and Improvement Program

Hi All, I was curious about both the OpenOffice.org User Registration and the Oracle Improvement Program. Is this something that Oracle is willing to share? If only snapshots. (1) At some point we'll need to ask Oracle to redirect registrations. (2) Is there any interest in seeing if Oracle wo

Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? (was: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

Hi Christian, On 06/17/2011 03:57 PM, Christian Lohmaier wrote: Hi Daniel, *, On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: Christian Lohmaier wrote on Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 13:43:04 +0200: For jira the Infra team uses an IRC bot that interfaces with jira (and can notify on issue ch

Re: Release old fonts? (was: Subversion history)

Hi Andrea, On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > [...] > So, while I totally believe the error was made in good faith, I really > cannot believe I can be accused of creating FUD: Yes, you're right - that blogpost really included unclear information, so I apologize ciao Chris

Re: Release old fonts? (was: Subversion history)

Christian Lohmaier wrote: > > And those will not be liberated; rumors about this spread due to > > inaccurate or unclear blog posts by the Document Foundation > > Sorry, but don't spread FUD. > The Document Foundation surely didn't > spread any rumors about fonts or cliparts or other proprietary s

Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? (was: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

Hi Daniel, *, On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Christian Lohmaier wrote on Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 13:43:04 +0200: >> > For jira the Infra team uses an IRC bot that interfaces with jira (and > can notify on issue changes, add comments to issues, close them, etc) > --- so you c

Re: Bugzilla or JIRA? (was: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?)

Christian Lohmaier wrote on Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 13:43:04 +0200: > Hi Greg, *, > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 9:45 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 12:44, Dave Fisher wrote: > >> > >> > >> (2) There is no clear preference on Bugzilla over JIRA. > > > > That is kind of what I'm seei

Re: Release old fonts? (was: Subversion history)

On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 3:23 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Pedro Giffuni wrote: >>  Wikipedia recalls that Staroffice had twelve western fonts, clipart, >>  and other stuff as proprietary components. > > And those will not be liberated; rumors about this spread due to > inaccurate or unclear blog p

Re: Release old fonts? (was: Subversion history)

Pedro Giffuni wrote: > Wikipedia recalls that Staroffice had twelve western fonts, clipart, > and other stuff as proprietary components. And those will not be liberated; rumors about this spread due to inaccurate or unclear blog posts by the Document Foundation and the Free Software Foundation,

Re: Can we rationalize and formalize "a language project"?

Louis Suarez-Potts wrote: > I'd also like to modify the original OOo notion of a native language > project. When I set them up, I did so with a focus on language not > region. And you were right, there is no need to change it. Or, to be more precise, there are two categories of tasks: 1) Translati

Re: External dependencies (was Re: [discuss] remove of binfilter module)

On 06/16/2011 06:15 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote: On 16.06.2011 16:45, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Greg Stein wrote: On Wed, Jun 15, 2011 at 12:09, Pedro Giffuni wrote: On Wed, 15 Jun 2011 10:59:12 +0200, Mathias Bauer ... Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding was tha

Re: Subversion history (was: Wiki, SVN, other resources)

On 06/17/2011 10:42 AM, Mathias Bauer wrote: On 17.06.2011 10:01, Stephan Bergmann wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Mathias Bauerwrote: If we did it this way, my recommendation would be not to use the DEV300m103 milestone (that was used in the grant) but the most recent OOO340m1 milesto

What do we do at Apache versus what do we do elsewhere?

I've seen several posts asking about how the core OOo development project will relate to the other activities such as user forums, translations, releases, language projects, etc. I thought it would be good to have a single thread to discuss the general issues. As many of us know, with OpenOffice.

Re: Introduction

Hi Zoltan! Am 17.06.2011 12:40, schrieb Reizinger Zoltán: My name is Zoltán Reizinger (r4zoli on OOo) and I have been involved in OpenOffice.org Base QA project from last year. I participated in Base documentation development and in wiki. I was the founder co-admin for Hungarian OOo user forum,

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