Re: Converting the repo using mercurial's convert extension

2011-07-29 Thread Herbert Duerr
On 07/28/2011 08:42 PM, Jens-Heiner Rechtien wrote: But, frankly, I can't see the need of having the CVS stuff at hand. It's very hard to make sense of this historical data anyway, at least if you haven't got a decade of OOo developer knowledge under the belt. It's true that the conversion was

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Shane Curcuru wrote on Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 22:34:53 -0400: Note that I would also recommend emailing security@ after you have a basic proposed plan to get advice, and to strongly consider following any advice you get. They and some of the other major Apache projects, like Tomcat, Subversion,

RE: Q: Notices in Code - Answered and Thanks Y'All

2011-07-29 Thread Greg Stein
It seems there is some kind of subtext here, but it is so obtuse that I have no idea what is going on. So: was my short reply useful, or not? And note that my reply was also given as an augment to Rob's link to source header application. Dennis: be clear; *what* are you trying to say? I cannot

Mailing list moderation question

2011-07-29 Thread Rob Weir
I Just noticed that I'm signed up as moderator for the ooo-security list as robw...@apache.org. This appears to allow me to receive message (the forwarding works) but does not allow me to issue list commands. The list manager does not appear to use mailAlias.txt to resolve my other addresses,

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 3:49 AM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Shane Curcuru wrote on Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 22:34:53 -0400: Note that I would also recommend emailing security@ after you have a basic proposed plan to get advice, and to strongly consider following any advice you

RE: Mailing list moderation question

2011-07-29 Thread Gavin McDonald
-Original Message- From: Rob Weir [mailto:apa...@robweir.com] Sent: Friday, 29 July 2011 11:48 PM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Mailing list moderation question I Just noticed that I'm signed up as moderator for the ooo-security list as robw...@apache.org. This

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Florian Effenberger
Hi Malte, Malte Timmermann wrote on 2011-07-29 14:56: I really disagree to add all the members from OOo and LibO to the AOOo security list. well, that's sad to hear, but I guess nobody cares at all, so I won't elaborate any further on this. This was the same with OOo/LibO: You didn't add

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Florian Effenberger
that sould read: That could be a basis for cooperation, are now revoked... Florian Effenberger wrote on 2011-07-29 16:37: No problem. It's not about me, I just find it sad that things that worked out so very well in the past, and that could be a basis cooperation, are no revoked by your side.

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hi Malte, Malte Timmermann wrote on 2011-07-29 14:56: I really disagree to add all the members from OOo and LibO to the AOOo security list. well, that's sad to hear, but I guess nobody cares at all,

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hi, Rob Weir wrote on 2011-07-29 16:49: What did you think of Simon's idea of having a discussion list, perhaps outside of Apache, where interested parties could discuss issues related to the security

Re: OOO340 to svn

2011-07-29 Thread Malte Timmermann
On 28.07.2011 12:37, Eike Rathke wrote: Hi Greg, On Thursday, 2011-07-28 00:41:40 -0400, Greg Stein wrote: 1) import just the OOO340 tip into svn 2) move all the Hg repositories over to apache-extras.org. That supports Hg and it supports any OSI license. We can indefinitely retain history

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hi, Rob Weir wrote on 2011-07-29 16:49: What did you think of Simon's idea of having a discussion list, perhaps outside of Apache,

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:26 PM, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote: Hi, Rob Weir wrote on 2011-07-29 16:49: What did you

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Fri, 7/29/11, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: ... So let me use a analogy to illustrate why I though that was a sarcasm: to me, Rob's paragraph read as: The offer remain open: If any gay person want to marry, we will gladly recognize that marriage, as long as they

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Dave Fisher
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 11:58 AM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:26 AM, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:48 AM, Rob Weir apa...@robweir.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Florian Effenberger flo...@documentfoundation.org wrote:

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Wolf Halton
...something constructive... I am already a security expert, but I did not join up with LibO sec list/committee, yet - I was busy with some other stuff. I am already on the PPMC, and my committer's iCLA is already on file... Self-submit to be on the ooo sec list. Wolf P.S. Email is almost the

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni giffu...@tutopia.com wrote: --- On Fri, 7/29/11, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: ... So let me use a analogy to illustrate why I though that was a sarcasm: to me, Rob's paragraph read as: The offer remain open: If any gay

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Dave Fisher
On Jul 29, 2011, at 12:33 PM, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni giffu...@tutopia.com wrote: --- On Fri, 7/29/11, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: ... So let me use a analogy to illustrate why I though that was a sarcasm: to me,

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Norbert Thiebaud
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Let's stop misinterpreting and offending each other and find a way to co-operate. Several possibilities have been discussed. (1) A private list of experts that will be contacted as needed by ooo-security. Maybe

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Pavel Janík wrote on Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 19:55:04 +0200: On Jul 29, 2011, at 7:49 PM, Norbert Thiebaud wrote: PS: why o why would signing an iCLA be a requirement to be a project security liaison ? it's like asking that any ambassador be naturalized citizen of the country he is in post

Operating ooo-security (was RE: Population of ooo-security)

2011-07-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
We are in a very fledgling situation here. Let's see if we can clear up a few things. Here is my understanding of the situation as it exists at the moment. - Dennis 1. The ooo-security@i.a.o list is private and moderated. Anyone can send a message to the list. The three current

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Pedro F. Giffuni
--- On Fri, 7/29/11, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com wrote: ... ok let me use a concrete example: Let say person A found somewhere in the code something like   printf( s_usingText ); where there is a risk that s_usingText is not sanitized... let's say person A notify this

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Shane Curcuru
Yes, this is a great approach (and one I believe has been suggested in essence already). The point is that ooo-security@ is comprised only of trusted and knowledgeable Apache OOo committers - because it is the responsibility of Apache OOo committers (and really the PPMC) to ensure the

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dave Fisher wrote on Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 12:04:44 -0700: Let's stop misinterpreting and offending each other and find a way to co-operate. Several possibilities have been discussed. (1) A private list of experts that will be contacted as needed by ooo-security. Maybe this should be

Re: Operating ooo-security (was RE: Population of ooo-security)

2011-07-29 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Dennis E. Hamilton wrote on Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 13:28:01 -0700: We are in a very fledgling situation here. Let's see if we can clear up a few things. Here is my understanding of the situation as it exists at the moment. - Dennis 1. The ooo-security@i.a.o list is private and

Re: Operating ooo-security (was RE: Population of ooo-security)

2011-07-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 4:28 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton orc...@apache.org wrote: We are in a very fledgling situation here.  Let's see if we can clear up a few things. Here is my understanding of the situation as it exists at the moment.  - Dennis  1. The ooo-security@i.a.o list is private

Re: Population of ooo-security

2011-07-29 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 17:05:42 -0400: automatically cc LibreOffice and only LibreOffice Because I was too lazy to append This is just an example, in reality you'd have a list of other people and groups you'd CC, and that list may or may not include TDF to my previous email.

Re: Operating ooo-security (was RE: Population of ooo-security)

2011-07-29 Thread Daniel Shahaf
Rob Weir wrote on Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 16:55:06 -0400: For example, I'm not seeing at any stage where we would bring a summary of a reported vulnerability to the PPMC, even on the private list. The PPMC could, for example, be on the pre-notification list once the fix is done.

Re: Operating ooo-security (was RE: Population of ooo-security)

2011-07-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Daniel Shahaf d...@daniel.shahaf.name wrote: Rob Weir wrote on Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 16:55:06 -0400: For example, I'm not seeing at any stage where we would bring a summary of a reported vulnerability to the PPMC, even on the private list. The PPMC could, for

Re: Operating ooo-security (was RE: Population of ooo-security)

2011-07-29 Thread Dave Fisher
I just sent in a test email from my work email. Please do not divulge my employer. (Ah these corporate rules ;-) Regards, Dave On Jul 29, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: You're probably right. It is up to the list subscribers to know what to ignore then. We haven't had

RE: Operating ooo-security (was RE: Population of ooo-security)

2011-07-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
It came through on the list without any intervention. Hit my spam list though, so I tuned up my e-mail client to white-list anything addressed to that list. - Dennis -Original Message- From: Dave Fisher [mailto:dave2w...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 15:02 To:

Re: Operating ooo-security (was RE: Population of ooo-security)

2011-07-29 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jul 29, 2011 at 6:02 PM, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: I just sent in a test email from my work email. Please do not divulge my employer. (Ah these corporate rules ;-) Message arrived, no moderation note. Regards, Dave On Jul 29, 2011, at 2:54 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton

Requesting ooo-security Subscriptions: No Luck

2011-07-29 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Since the ooo-security list became operational, there have been a few requests to subscribe to the list. After the e-mail confirmation ceremony, applicants will be told, by the mail-list robot, that the initiation of their subscription awaits approval by a moderator. PLEASE NOTE: UNINVITED

RE: Q: Notices in Code - Answered and Thanks Y'All

2011-07-29 Thread Greg Stein
Geezus. You are continuing to be obtuse. I have *no* idea what you're talking about. On Jul 29, 2011 9:21 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Greg, your short reply was completely sufficient. It was all I needed and it answered the question that I asked. It was a little odd

RE: Q: Notices in Code - Answered and Thanks Y'All

2011-07-29 Thread Greg Stein
Answered where you did ... huh? What do you mean? Where, what? Please speak explicitly. On Jul 29, 2011 9:56 PM, Greg Stein gst...@gmail.com wrote: Geezus. You are continuing to be obtuse. I have *no* idea what you're talking about. On Jul 29, 2011 9:21 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton