Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org - was: [proposal] development for the first AOO release

2011-10-24 Thread Andrew Rist
This is an issue that has stirred much emotion, and is one that has not reached consensus. Due to the requirement of having our official name be 'Apache [something]', I believe the current consensus points towards one of the following two options: * Apache OpenOffice.org * Apache OpenOffice

Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org - was: [proposal] development for the first AOO release

2011-10-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Andrew; Yes, I agree its healthy to discuss this in its own thread. I was in AOO (without .org) camp but the trademark we own is OOo. Until decided otherwise I will keep using AOOo in written documentation and code but otherwise referring to it as OpenOffice (or Apache OpenOffice), either in

Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org

2011-10-22 Thread Nelson Marques
Hi all, I'm mainly a lurker and I don't really want to add/take anything that was previously said before, neither this is my playground, and for me most I'm just another theorical (my academical formation is actually on marketing management), but I felt like leaving a few words: * The auto

Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org

2011-10-20 Thread Wolf Halton
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 7:14 PM, TJ Frazier tjfraz...@cfl.rr.com wrote: On 10/18/2011 18:53, Kay Schenk wrote: On 10/18/2011 02:58 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: massive snippery snip-ectomy Why not have both Apache Open Office and OpenOffice.org? 1) We already have both and people are

Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org

2011-10-18 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/18/2011 01:29 AM, Ian Lynch wrote: On 18 October 2011 03:55, Andreas S�gerville...@t-online.de wrote: Am 18.10.2011 01:35, Carl Marcum wrote: Since we already need to do some re-branding for adding Apache,

Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org

2011-10-18 Thread Ian Lynch
: Tuesday, October 18, 2011 09:18 To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org [ ... ] Consider this-- We ahd agreed to keep the user facing web site for Apache OpenOffice.org as www.openoffice.org its current DNS name -- and, as Dennis pointed out

Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org

2011-10-18 Thread Kay Schenk
On 10/17/2011 03:41 PM, John Boyle wrote: On 10/17/2011 3:12 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: On 17 October 2011 23:00, Danese Cooperdan...@gmail.com wrote: -1 unless Apache Trademarks has reached some conclusion on their overall brand strategy for OOo. I saw a preliminary discussion, but no

Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org

2011-10-18 Thread Ian Lynch
On 18 October 2011 19:49, Kay Schenk kay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/17/2011 03:41 PM, John Boyle wrote: On 10/17/2011 3:12 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: On 17 October 2011 23:00, Danese Cooperdan...@gmail.com wrote: -1 unless Apache Trademarks has reached some conclusion on their overall

Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org

2011-10-18 Thread Kay Schenk
On 10/18/2011 02:58 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On Tue, Oct 18, 2011 at 6:17 PM, Kay Schenkkay.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/18/2011 01:29 AM, Ian Lynch wrote: On 18 October 2011 03:55, Andreas S�gerville...@t-online.de wrote: Am 18.10.2011 01:35, Carl Marcum wrote: Since we

Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org

2011-10-18 Thread TJ Frazier
On 10/18/2011 18:53, Kay Schenk wrote: On 10/18/2011 02:58 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: massive snippery When we have a running and working project and nothing to do else we can again think about a rebrand. And if we decide to do that it becomes hopefully more successful than renaming a stoc

[Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org

2011-10-17 Thread Ian Lynch
I propose that we rename OpenOffice.org Apache OpenOffice and abbreviate it to ApacheOO or AOO and trademark each of those terms. At the same time invite submissions for a new logo or logos based on these terms with a deadline of end of November after which the PPMC decides it by vote. -- Ian

Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org

2011-10-17 Thread Ian Lynch
On 17 October 2011 23:00, Danese Cooper dan...@gmail.com wrote: -1 unless Apache Trademarks has reached some conclusion on their overall brand strategy for OOo. I saw a preliminary discussion, but no conclusions. If I've missed anything, please advise. IMHO, the PPMC should have some say in

Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org

2011-10-17 Thread Ian Lynch
On 17 October 2011 23:04, floris v floris...@gmail.com wrote: Op 17-10-2011 23:54, Ian Lynch schreef: I propose that we rename OpenOffice.org Apache OpenOffice and abbreviate it to ApacheOO or AOO and trademark each of those terms. At the same time invite submissions for a new logo or

Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org

2011-10-17 Thread Kay Schenk
I think we went through this QUITE some time ago, and decided to leave the branding -- i.e. OpenOffice.org -- as is. Please see discussions with subject Refactoring the Brand back in July. I will make an attempt to document this on the wiki so it doesn't come up yet again. The bottom line

Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org

2011-10-17 Thread John Boyle
On 10/17/2011 3:12 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: On 17 October 2011 23:00, Danese Cooperdan...@gmail.com wrote: -1 unless Apache Trademarks has reached some conclusion on their overall brand strategy for OOo. I saw a preliminary discussion, but no conclusions. If I've missed anything, please advise.

Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org

2011-10-17 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 10/18/2011 12:13 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk: I think we went through this QUITE some time ago, and decided to leave the branding -- i.e. OpenOffice.org -- as is. Please see discussions with subject Refactoring the Brand back in July. I will make an attempt to document this on the wiki so it

Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org

2011-10-17 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 10/18/2011 12:04 AM, schrieb floris v: Op 17-10-2011 23:54, Ian Lynch schreef: I propose that we rename OpenOffice.org Apache OpenOffice and abbreviate it to ApacheOO or AOO and trademark each of those terms. At the same time invite submissions for a new logo or logos based on these terms

Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org

2011-10-17 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 10/17/2011 11:54 PM, schrieb Ian Lynch: I propose that we rename OpenOffice.org Apache OpenOffice and abbreviate it to ApacheOO or AOO and trademark each of those terms. At the same time invite submissions for a new logo or logos based on these terms with a deadline of end of November after

Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org

2011-10-17 Thread Shane Curcuru
On 10/17/2011 5:54 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: I propose that we rename OpenOffice.org Apache OpenOffice and abbreviate it to ApacheOO or AOO and trademark each of those terms. At the same time invite submissions for a new logo or logos based on these terms with a deadline of end of November after

Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org

2011-10-17 Thread Carl Marcum
On 10/17/2011 05:54 PM, Ian Lynch wrote: I propose that we rename OpenOffice.org Apache OpenOffice and abbreviate it to ApacheOO or AOO and trademark each of those terms. At the same time invite submissions for a new logo or logos based on these terms with a deadline of end of November after

Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org

2011-10-17 Thread F C. Costero
One thing I would add from the perspective of a forum user is that there are MANY warnings in the EN forum to stay away from anyone offering OpenOffice software other than OpenOffice.org. See for example http://user.services.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49t=11052 which is titled Fake

Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org

2011-10-17 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 10/18/2011 02:22 AM, schrieb F C. Costero: One thing I would add from the perspective of a forum user is that there are MANY warnings in the EN forum to stay away from anyone offering OpenOffice software other than OpenOffice.org. See for example

Re: [Proposal] Renaming of OpenOffice.org

2011-10-17 Thread Andreas Säger
Am 18.10.2011 01:35, Carl Marcum wrote: Since we already need to do some re-branding for adding Apache, I think we should drop the .org which I believe was only there because OpenOffice was already trademarked. And still is: http://www.openoffice.nl/