RE: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS Web page...

2005-07-17 Thread ted creedon
The developers shouldn't be expected to, they're busy doing what they do best. tedc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of chas williams - CONTRACTOR Sent: Friday, July 15, 2005 8:26 AM To: openafs-info@openafs.org Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS

Re: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS Web page...

2005-07-17 Thread Michael Norwick
ted creedon wrote: All good questions, with no immediate answers. snip (If this cutting bugs someone plz. let me know.) One more thing came to mind. How to deal with chapters for the various *nix platforms and architectures and Windows based systems. i.e. the IBM/Transarc docs got me

RE: [OpenAFS] OpenAFS Web page...

2005-07-17 Thread ted creedon
Bil, 1. Windows has its own set of docs. 2. All the *nix platfroms are in the IBM docs, multiple platforms (AIX, HPUX, etc.) per section. 3. This makes for a lengthy documents includeing platforms that the typical reader isn't interested in (I.e. user X uses Linux client/servers and Windows

[OpenAFS] Compressed source code...

2005-07-17 Thread Rodney M Dyer
I made a couple of comments the other day about the web page, but that thread had a life of its own and has now changed direction. I thought it would be better to start another one that is specific to my question. In the original thread on the web page I commented that clicking on the

Re: [OpenAFS] Compressed source code...

2005-07-17 Thread Jim Rees
I too would like to see a switch from bz2 back to gz. It would be more convenient for the OpenBSD platform. If we can find a compression type that works on all platforms that would be good. ___ OpenAFS-info mailing list OpenAFS-info@openafs.org

Re: [OpenAFS] Compressed source code...

2005-07-17 Thread Robert Banz
Did OpenAFS.org need to change the compress type from gz to bz2 for some reason? I would rather see the most common compressed type that all uncompressors can use. Does OpenAFS.org need a license to use ZIP? I'd vote for distributing it in both .bz2 .gz forms. .bz2 is much more

Re: [OpenAFS] Compressed source code...

2005-07-17 Thread Sir Clark Frazier Hale I
Rodney M Dyer wrote: In the original thread on the web page I commented that clicking on the openafs-1.3.85-src.tar.bz2 actually causes the IE browser to download it as openafs-1.3.85-src.tar.tar. This is strange, but even more strange is the fact that I can't do anything with the resulting

Re: [OpenAFS] Compressed source code...

2005-07-17 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Sunday, July 17, 2005 04:48:31 PM -0400 Robert Banz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did OpenAFS.org need to change the compress type from gz to bz2 for some reason? I would rather see the most common compressed type that all uncompressors can use. Does OpenAFS.org need a license to use ZIP?

Re: [OpenAFS] Compressed source code...

2005-07-17 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Sunday, July 17, 2005 04:51:01 PM -0400 Sir Clark Frazier Hale I [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rodney M Dyer wrote: In the original thread on the web page I commented that clicking on the openafs-1.3.85-src.tar.bz2 actually causes the IE browser to download it as openafs-1.3.85-src.tar.tar.

Re: [OpenAFS] Compressed source code...

2005-07-17 Thread Jim Rees
Content-Type and Content-Encoding are two different things. Both are correct for the OpenAFS source: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 22:43:25 GMT Server: Apache/1.3.33 (Debian GNU/Linux) mod_ssl/2.8.22 OpenSSL/0.9.7d Last-Modified: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 03:51:20 GMT ETag: 2600010-a79e4e-42d33e38

Re: [OpenAFS] Compressed source code...

2005-07-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Jim Rees [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bzip2 isn't that much better than gzip, maybe 20%. OpenBSD includes gzip but not bunzip2, I think due to licensing restrictions. It's unlikely that's the reason, since it's basically a BSD license: Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or

Re: [OpenAFS] Compressed source code...

2005-07-17 Thread Sir Clark Frazier Hale I
Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: On Sunday, July 17, 2005 04:51:01 PM -0400 Sir Clark Frazier Hale I [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rodney M Dyer wrote: In the original thread on the web page I commented that clicking on the openafs-1.3.85-src.tar.bz2 actually causes the IE browser to download it as

Re: [OpenAFS] Compressed source code...

2005-07-17 Thread Derrick J Brashear
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, Jeffrey Hutzelman wrote: We've done this in the past, but for some reason not revealed to me, the gatekeeper(s) who did the release chose not to generate gzip'd versions of 1.3.85. It's possible this was just an oversight; to find out why, you'd have to ask them...

Re: [OpenAFS] Compressed source code...

2005-07-17 Thread Rodney M Dyer
At 07:21 PM 7/17/2005, you wrote: Sorry, I'm ignorant as usual. And now that I've fired up my Windows machine, I can't reproduce what R. Dyer's talking about. I have seen it before, though. Maybe in Netscape 7.0 or 7.1. What version of Windows are you running? What compression tools do you

Re: [OpenAFS] Compressed source code...

2005-07-17 Thread Derrick J Brashear
On Sun, 17 Jul 2005, Rodney M Dyer wrote: As to the comment on better compression. We're only saving about 2 meg here. Look at the 1.3.8400 release, where it was in tar.gz and tar.bz2. Is 2 meg really all that important in the scheme of things? It's just a little more than a floppy. Is

Re: [OpenAFS] Compressed source code...

2005-07-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Rodney M Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As to the comment on better compression. We're only saving about 2 meg here. Look at the 1.3.8400 release, where it was in tar.gz and tar.bz2. Is 2 meg really all that important in the scheme of things? It's just a little more than a floppy. Is

Re: [OpenAFS] Compressed source code...

2005-07-17 Thread Rodney M Dyer
At 10:15 PM 7/17/2005, Derrick J Brashear wrote: Wireless (non 802.11) network isn't free, and I like to develop from random places. You're splitting hairs here. ;-) ___ OpenAFS-info mailing list OpenAFS-info@openafs.org

Re: [OpenAFS] Compressed source code...

2005-07-17 Thread Matthew Miller
On Sun, Jul 17, 2005 at 06:47:20PM -0400, Jim Rees wrote: Bzip2 isn't that much better than gzip, maybe 20%. OpenBSD includes gzip but not bunzip2, I think due to licensing restrictions. Specifically for OpenAFS 1.3.84, 22.94%. :) That seems usefully-better to me -- saves almost two and a

Re: [OpenAFS] Compressed source code...

2005-07-17 Thread Rodney M Dyer
Ok ok, I've observed that it was an oversite, and have already downloaded the TAR file itself. WinZIP can deal with TARs directly, even though they aren't compressed. I'm not really interested in having every compression tool under the sun (Microsystems? ... pun) installed. I'm also willing

Re: [OpenAFS] Compressed source code...

2005-07-17 Thread Russ Allbery
Rodney M Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ok ok, I've observed that it was an oversite, and have already downloaded the TAR file itself. WinZIP can deal with TARs directly, even though they aren't compressed. I'm not really interested in having every compression tool under the sun