Re: [OpenAFS] TSM client for OpenAFS

2009-04-02 Thread Anders Magnusson
Felix Frank wrote: On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Anders Magnusson wrote: Harald Barth wrote: Why is the space bigger? Don't you do incremental dumps? Of course, but it will still take up much more space. If we do full dump once a week and incs each night there will be many duplicates of files change

Re: [OpenAFS] TSM client for OpenAFS

2009-04-02 Thread Felix Frank
On Thu, 2 Apr 2009, Anders Magnusson wrote: Harald Barth wrote: Why is the space bigger? Don't you do incremental dumps? Of course, but it will still take up much more space. If we do full dump once a week and incs each night there will be many duplicates of files changed early after the fu

Re: [OpenAFS] TSM client for OpenAFS

2009-04-02 Thread James E. Blair
Anders Magnusson writes: > Hi, > > we are currently deploying OpenAFS here at the university and also > are stuck with TSM for backups. Currently there doesn't seems to > exist any good AFS backup client for TSM, and just storing volume > dumps is not too appealing, both due to backup storage sp

Re: [OpenAFS] TSM client for OpenAFS

2009-04-02 Thread Anders Magnusson
Mattias Amnefelt wrote: >> >>> So I have written a client that uses the TSM API for backup. >> >> I suspected some ongoing work for AFS backups (considering your >> earlier questions). >> >> > I've been thinking about how to do this myself. My latest idea was to > modify the arla client an

Re: [OpenAFS] TSM client for OpenAFS

2009-04-02 Thread Anders Magnusson
Harald Barth wrote: >> we are currently deploying OpenAFS here at the university and also are stuck >> with TSM >> for backups. >> > > There could be worse things. PDC uses TSM and we use homwgrown logic > to do full and incremental dumps. These then are piped into a program > that uses the A

Re: [OpenAFS] openafs and tivoli backup client

2009-04-02 Thread Christopher D. Clausen
Russ Allbery wrote: "Christopher D. Clausen" writes: Russ Allbery wrote: Not any more. Tivoli dropped support for AFS. We have old binaries that we're still using because they've not broken the API (yet), but I don't think we're allowed to give them out, and they're not really a long-term

Re: [OpenAFS] openafs and tivoli backup client

2009-04-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Kevin Sumner writes: > TSM 6.1 was released last week. Ah, it's even worse than I thought. > We're using the butc plugin for AFS right now with 5.4, though we hope > to upgrade to something newer in the not-too-distant future. Yeah, we're using it right now with 5.5 but we're in the same boat

Re: [OpenAFS] openafs and tivoli backup client

2009-04-02 Thread Kevin Sumner
TSM 6.1 was released last week. We're using the butc plugin for AFS right now with 5.4, though we hope to upgrade to something newer in the not-too-distant future. Kevin Sumner ITS Enterprise Storage Management University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill CB# 1150, 440 W. Franklin Street, Offic

Re: [OpenAFS] openafs and tivoli backup client

2009-04-02 Thread Russ Allbery
"Christopher D. Clausen" writes: > Russ Allbery wrote: >> Not any more. Tivoli dropped support for AFS. We have old binaries >> that we're still using because they've not broken the API (yet), but I >> don't think we're allowed to give them out, and they're not really a >> long-term solution f

Re: [OpenAFS] openafs and tivoli backup client

2009-04-02 Thread Christopher D. Clausen
Russ Allbery wrote: Vladimir Konrad writes: Do you know a way to persuade IBM Tivoli client to do backup of openafs file-system? Not any more. Tivoli dropped support for AFS. We have old binaries that we're still using because they've not broken the API (yet), but I don't think we're allow

Re: [OpenAFS] TSM client for OpenAFS

2009-04-02 Thread Mattias Amnefelt
Harald Barth skrev: we are currently deploying OpenAFS here at the university and also are stuck with TSM for backups. There could be worse things. PDC uses TSM and we use homwgrown logic to do full and incremental dumps. These then are piped into a program that uses the API. The only pro

Re: [OpenAFS] openafs and tivoli backup client

2009-04-02 Thread Russ Allbery
Vladimir Konrad writes: > Do you know a way to persuade IBM Tivoli client to do backup of openafs > file-system? Not any more. Tivoli dropped support for AFS. We have old binaries that we're still using because they've not broken the API (yet), but I don't think we're allowed to give them out,

Re: [OpenAFS] openafs and tivoli backup client

2009-04-02 Thread Mattias Amnefelt
Vladimir Konrad skrev: Hello, Do you know a way to persuade IBM Tivoli client to do backup of openafs file-system? Currently, I do vos dump on each volume, compress that and the result goes to tapes. But most of the data does not change and it takes very large chunk of space in the backup va

Re: [OpenAFS] Migration to Kerberos 5

2009-04-02 Thread Jason Edgecombe
Gedaliah Wolosh wrote: > > > On Thu, the 8th of Nisan, 5769 (04/2/2009) Wheeler, JF (Jonathan) wrote: > >> I have been studying the documentation for migrating from "Kerberos 4" >> to Kerberos 5 for AFS as written by Ken Hornstein. The version of the >> document that I have is dated 1998 so is a l

Re: [OpenAFS] TSM client for OpenAFS

2009-04-02 Thread Harald Barth
> we are currently deploying OpenAFS here at the university and also are stuck > with TSM > for backups. There could be worse things. PDC uses TSM and we use homwgrown logic to do full and incremental dumps. These then are piped into a program that uses the API. The only problem is that we do no

Re: [OpenAFS] Using Apple Spotlight on Leopard with OpenAFS

2009-04-02 Thread Jeffrey Altman
Rich Sudlow wrote: > Greetings > > I have a research group which would like to use Spotlight > in their OpenAFS space - they've told me that this only works > with AFP. Is this true? Have other sites been using > this and might be able to point me in the right direction? > Is there a way to do t

Re: [OpenAFS] Migration to Kerberos 5

2009-04-02 Thread Harald Barth
> I have been studying the documentation for migrating from "Kerberos 4" > to Kerberos 5 for AFS as written by Ken Hornstein. > ... > asetkey. Use the Heimdal kerberos package, it contains all kerberos tools you'll need. Harald. ___ OpenAFS-info mail

Re: [OpenAFS] Migration to Kerberos 5

2009-04-02 Thread Gedaliah Wolosh
On Thu, the 8th of Nisan, 5769 (04/2/2009) Wheeler, JF (Jonathan) wrote: I have been studying the documentation for migrating from "Kerberos 4" to Kerberos 5 for AFS as written by Ken Hornstein. The version of the document that I have is dated 1998 so is a little old. Is there a newer versio

[OpenAFS] TSM client for OpenAFS

2009-04-02 Thread Anders Magnusson
Hi, we are currently deploying OpenAFS here at the university and also are stuck with TSM for backups. Currently there doesn't seems to exist any good AFS backup client for TSM, and just storing volume dumps is not too appealing, both due to backup storage space and simpleness in restoring s

[OpenAFS] openafs and tivoli backup client

2009-04-02 Thread Vladimir Konrad
Hello, Do you know a way to persuade IBM Tivoli client to do backup of openafs file-system? Currently, I do vos dump on each volume, compress that and the result goes to tapes. But most of the data does not change and it takes very large chunk of space in the backup vault. Any pointers on ho

[OpenAFS] Migration to Kerberos 5

2009-04-02 Thread Wheeler, JF (Jonathan)
I have been studying the documentation for migrating from "Kerberos 4" to Kerberos 5 for AFS as written by Ken Hornstein. The version of the document that I have is dated 1998 so is a little old. Is there a newer version anywhere ? If not, can someone please answer the following question: the do

[OpenAFS] Using Apple Spotlight on Leopard with OpenAFS

2009-04-02 Thread Rich Sudlow
Greetings I have a research group which would like to use Spotlight in their OpenAFS space - they've told me that this only works with AFP. Is this true? Have other sites been using this and might be able to point me in the right direction? Is there a way to do this globally rather than on ever