RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-12 Thread ted creedon
s.org Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments ted creedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Progress on a long forgotten front. > If any material improvements to the text are made please forward so > they can be incorporated.. I'm quite sure that improvements have been

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-11 Thread Russ Allbery
ted creedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Progress on a long forgotten front. > If any material improvements to the text are made please forward so they > can be incorporated.. I'm quite sure that improvements have been made to at least some of the text; I know that I rewrote the pts man page in

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-11 Thread Esther Filderman
On 6/11/05, ted creedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Progress on a long forgotten front. > > If any material improvements to the text are made please forward so they can > be incorporated.. > tedc Once again: this is supposed to be an open-source group-oriented project. Documentation that only

RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-11 Thread ted creedon
@openafs.org Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I'll mail Alf and ask if there's anything newer than the last time I >> looked, and start plugging away at

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-11 Thread Russ Allbery
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> I'll mail Alf and ask if there's anything newer than the last time I >> looked, and start plugging away at this. > I now have in my hot little hands a tarball that should make a good > starting point, and I loo

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread Russ Allbery
ted creedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > If there is a Latex to man ir info, shouldn't be too bad. > There are 800 pages in the Admin Reference Yes, and most of them need significant work to update. Changing the format of the documentation is only about 10% of the actual work that needs to

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread Russ Allbery
ted creedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Here's what you won't have in the POD's: Please note that all I'm trying to do is produce man pages. That means a man page for each command or subcommand and a man page for each configuration file. I'm not trying to duplicate the installation instructio

RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread ted creedon
Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments On Friday, June 10, 2005 03:25:24 PM -0700 Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So that people know, if I write the man pages I'll write them all in > POD, based initially on the web page reference manual, and then

RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Friday, June 10, 2005 04:37:18 PM -0700 ted creedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: E-mail directly with questions. I have a better idea. There is a mailing list, [EMAIL PROTECTED], set up for discussion related to working on the documentation. I'd much rather see active discussion there th

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Friday, June 10, 2005 03:25:24 PM -0700 Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So that people know, if I write the man pages I'll write them all in POD, based initially on the web page reference manual, and then use pod2man to convert them to man pages. One of the many pod2html converte

RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread ted creedon
ge- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Russ Allbery Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 3:25 PM To: openafs-info@openafs.org Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments Esther Filderman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 6/10/05, chas williams - CONTRACTOR <

RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread ted creedon
an Cc: openafs-info@openafs.org Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,Esther Filderman writes: >available online. Requiring people to download giant postscript or pdf >files to look up one command is ludicrious. > >Making things look p

RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread ted creedon
ent: Friday, June 10, 2005 12:08 PM To: openafs-info@openafs.org Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments On 6/10/05, ted creedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For what its worth, I think html documentation with hyperlinks is not > the best way to go. It just happened to get do

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Russ Allbery <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I'll mail Alf and ask if there's anything newer than the last time I > looked, and start plugging away at this. I now have in my hot little hands a tarball that should make a good starting point, and I look it over and submit it to openafs-bugs for inclu

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread Russ Allbery
Esther Filderman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 6/10/05, chas williams - CONTRACTOR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> is there any hope of someone doing something with the man pages? >> yes, i am a dinosaur, i still like man pages. > I think Russ Allbery was working on man pages a while ago. Oh, Ru

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread Robert Banz
Esther Filderman wrote: On 6/10/05, ted creedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For what its worth, I think html documentation with hyperlinks is not the best way to go. It just happened to get done first on the second round of conversions. Yes, you've made your bias clear since you started this.

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread Esther Filderman
On 6/10/05, chas williams - CONTRACTOR <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > is there any hope of someone doing something with the man pages? > yes, i am a dinosaur, i still like man pages. > I think Russ Allbery was working on man pages a while ago. Oh, Russ, whatever happened? ___

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread chas williams - CONTRACTOR
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,Esther Filderman writes: >available online. Requiring people to download giant postscript or >pdf files to look up one command is ludicrious. > >Making things look pretty is fine, but they also have to be usable. >In the end, HTML is likely going to be the most used

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread Esther Filderman
On 6/10/05, ted creedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For what its worth, I think html documentation with hyperlinks is not the > best way to go. It just happened to get done first on the second round of > conversions. Yes, you've made your bias clear since you started this. While I sincerely appre

RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread ted creedon
y, June 10, 2005 9:58 AM To: openafs-info@openafs.org Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments > Recompiling with the Springer Verlag sving6.sty document class > produces textbook quality compositions with automatically numbered > tables of contents, indexes and appen

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project comments

2005-06-10 Thread Robert Banz
Recompiling with the Springer Verlag sving6.sty document class produces textbook quality compositions with automatically numbered tables of contents, indexes and appendicies. The current version uses the article class to support the hyperref package and the downstream converters. Just going to

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project

2005-06-10 Thread Jeffrey Altman
ted creedon wrote: > Sources sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Anyone else interested can respond. It's a 3.5M targz file. > > tedc > Ted: You already had an existing ticket in RT for this project. (#2830) You should attach the documentation plus instructions to that ticket. FYI, the new ticket y

RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project

2005-06-10 Thread ted creedon
c -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derrick J Brashear Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 6:40 AM To: openafs-info@openafs.org Subject: RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, ted creedon wrote: > 1. Explain "codify". If

RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project

2005-06-10 Thread Derrick J Brashear
On Fri, 10 Jun 2005, ted creedon wrote: 1. Explain "codify". If you mean "tell us what tricks we need to know" that's why I suggested a BOF at the conference. Is it a small set of same or similar transforms which can be scripted? 2. Hand edits will be required but more importantly, trial "l

RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project

2005-06-10 Thread ted creedon
. The good news is there is a latex set of docs available... In 284 separate files for the AdminReference alone. tedc -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Derrick J Brashear Sent: Thursday, June 09, 2005 7:39 PM To: openafs-info@openafs.org Sub

RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project

2005-06-10 Thread ted creedon
8:09 PM To: ted creedon Cc: openafs-info@openafs.org Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project On Thursday, June 09, 2005 01:31:06 PM -0700 ted creedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... but I don't think anyone but me will be dong updates anyway. That doesn't sound like a

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project

2005-06-09 Thread Jeffrey Hutzelman
On Thursday, June 09, 2005 01:31:06 PM -0700 ted creedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: ... but I don't think anyone but me will be dong updates anyway. That doesn't sound like a reasonable assumption to me, either in theory or in practice. This is an open-source project, and it needs to be po

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project

2005-06-09 Thread Derrick J Brashear
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, ted creedon wrote: The AFS html part is about as done as its going to get. It actually looks useful. Hyperlinks work, minor hacks required but I don't think anyone but me will be dong updates anyway. PDF links will require some more work since the links are in the form direc

RE: [OpenAFS] Documentation project update

2005-06-04 Thread ted creedon
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Esther Filderman Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 11:03 PM To: openafs-info@openafs.org Subject: Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project update On 6/3/05, ted creedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All,

Re: [OpenAFS] Documentation project update

2005-06-03 Thread Esther Filderman
On 6/3/05, ted creedon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > All, > > The documentation project is finished except for hyperlinks. That's a very nice planet you live on. > The conversion from IBM htm to tex is stable and the conversion from tex to > html, dvi or pdf is also stable. Oh, you mean the proj