CCR and openehr

2007-02-20 Thread Heath Frankel
Andrew & Ogi, openEHR Templates are not Forms, they are aggregations of archetypes with further constraints. The scope of an openEHR template can be compared with a form but define the data structure of that form. However openEHR Templates can be used to drive the design and generation of forms a

CCR and openehr

2007-02-20 Thread Andrew Patterson
> implementation spaces. Archetypes as clinical model exist independent of > their potential use. Templates are the visual forms created for particular > applications. Thus it would be possible to create different versions serving > the same purpose - in this case the visual representation of a CCR

CCR and openehr

2007-02-20 Thread Ognian Pishev
The reason why it is important to distinguish between archetypes and templates is to why we insist on the separation between the design and implementation spaces. Archetypes as clinical model exist independent of their potential use. Templates are the visual forms created for particular applica

CCR and openehr

2007-02-20 Thread Heath Frankel
Andrew, I understand the limitation of no specifications for templates. Archetypes are more than data structures, they are semantic structures. A CCR is a data structure defined by a particular organisation but has no true semantics in health, where as a discharge or referral is a common concept

CCR and openehr

2007-02-20 Thread Andrew Patterson
> The CCR would not be implemented as a composition archetype but as a > template. Some of us haven't seen the template spec which makes it hard to see where the line between openehr archetypes and openehr templates lies. > Obviously there will be a composition archetype required and > several s

CCR and openehr

2007-02-20 Thread Heath Frankel
Andrew, The CCR would not be implemented as a composition archetype but as a template. Obviously there will be a composition archetype required and several section archetypes but they would not be specifically designed for CCR. The same archetypes should be able to be used in Australia (HealthCon

CCR and openehr

2007-02-20 Thread Thomas Beale
Gerard Freriks wrote: > My try. > > > Template: It is the interoperable information part of a contract > between two or more communicating actors. Gerard, that is a very nice functional definition. In some cases, the actors are the GUI application user, and other users, whose previously persiste

CCR and openehr

2007-02-20 Thread Thomas Beale
Heath Frankel wrote: > Andrew & Ogi, > openEHR Templates are not Forms, they are aggregations of archetypes with > further constraints. The scope of an openEHR template can be compared with > a form but define the data structure of that form. However openEHR > Templates can be used to drive the d

CCR and openehr

2007-02-20 Thread Brett Esler
I bet you can...even better implement one that is compatible with CDAr2 CCR implementation; they have some implementation guides with detail; CDA is supposedly mappable to a composition any way ;) (ask Heath Frankel and Dipak Kalra, or Sam).. Then go sell the idea to the NHS for mega$$ -Origi

CCR and openehr

2007-02-20 Thread Ian McNicoll
Hi Heath, I am interested in this aspect of archetypes/templates as well. I am currently working with the Scottish National Clinical Datasets program to see how we might integrate archetypes and templates into their data standards development process i.e essentially as a design-time tool rather th

CCR and openehr

2007-02-20 Thread Gerard Freriks
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CCR and openehr

2007-02-20 Thread Andrew Patterson
Has anyone looked at making an openehr composition archetype(s) corresponding to the ASTM continuity of care record (CCR)? I don't have access to the ASTM standard but I was just looking at the HL7 document describing how CCR maps into CDAr2 and was thinking that it would be a good test of the pow