Authenticity Issues [was: Re: Demographics service]

2005-03-07 Thread Sebastian Garde
Hi, There is another issue with digital signatures in the context of EHRs: Their value decreases over time and with them the value of digitally signed documents as legal evidence. In other words: securely signed documents don't necessarily provide a secure basis for verifying authenticity for

Authenticity Issues [was: Re: Demographics service]

2005-03-07 Thread Kerry Raymond
There are undeniably enormous challenges in this area. However, right now, we have a health system that operates off bits of paper augmented with IT here and there. Can we verify the authenticity of a medical record from the 1970s today? Will a paper health record created today be

archetypes and class constraints

2005-03-07 Thread Kerry Raymond
If I might ask a rather mundane technical question about archetypes ... Looking at the archetype models, there appears to be no way to enforce that the class to be used for some specific piece of information is exactly that class and not one of its subtypes. For example, what if it is

archetypes and class constraints

2005-03-07 Thread Sam Heard
Kerry The archetype editor sets this constraint for dv_date_time using a syntax for the purpose. At present the other reference model classes are not available in the same manner - that is they do not impinge directly on the data. Generally, one assumes that in the reference model people will

Demographics service

2005-03-07 Thread Sam Heard
Dear All The openEHR design team have, over many years, decided to separate the demographic information from the EHR data. Advantages are, amongst others: 1. Security - you need access to both sets of data to know about an individual 2. Normalisation - you can find people even though they have

Authenticity Issues [was: Re: Demographics service]

2005-03-07 Thread Gerard Freriks
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Demographics service

2005-03-07 Thread USM Bish
lakewood at copper.net wrote: Hi Sam, Is the indicated sentence correct? Regards! -Thomas Clark The EHR model has quite different classes than the EHR model - and the archetypes are therefore different. ^^ 'EHR model'--- 'EHR

Authenticity Issues [was: Re: Demographics service]

2005-03-07 Thread Gavin Brelstaff
Kerry Raymond wrote: There are undeniably enormous challenges in this area. However, right now, we have a health system that operates off bits of paper augmented with IT here and there. Can we verify the authenticity of a medical record from the 1970s today? Will a paper health record

OID once more

2005-03-07 Thread Bert Verhees
Two simpel questions, though the answer may be complicated 1) Is there an OID which can be used if there is no OID known, f.e. 0.0.0.0.0 2) I work for a comany which wants to use the insurance-number of a patient for a special goal. It only wants the Insurance-number. What is the best way to

OID once more

2005-03-07 Thread Dipak Kalra
Dear Bert, As you know, I am not technical enough to respond to you on OID construction, but I wanted you to know that I am sensitive to the OID-heavy nature of 13606 at present, and will look to ways to ease the implementation burden. I suspect your concerns will be shared by many. With best

OID once more

2005-03-07 Thread Bert Verhees
Thanks Dipa, I hope it helps best regards Bert Verhees Op maandag 7 maart 2005 15:06, schreef Dipak Kalra: Dear Bert, As you know, I am not technical enough to respond to you on OID construction, but I wanted you to know that I am sensitive to the OID-heavy nature of 13606 at present, and

Archetype editor status

2005-03-07 Thread Thomas Beale
Thomas Beale wrote: Dear all, there is an anomaly in the openEHR software as of Friday. The ADL reference parser, archetype workbench, and archetype valdiator have been rebuilt with small improvements to the dADL handling code, and with corrected handling of paths, which now must

OID once more

2005-03-07 Thread Thomas Beale
Bert Verhees wrote: Two simpel questions, though the answer may be complicated 1) Is there an OID which can be used if there is no OID known, f.e. 0.0.0.0.0 2) I work for a comany which wants to use the insurance-number of a patient for a special goal. It only wants the Insurance-number. What

Problem with Datatype: Instance Identifier (II)

2005-03-07 Thread Thomas Beale
Bert Verhees wrote: Now I must tell them they have to recognize the InsuranceNumbere from the OID which points to InsuranceCompany, somewhere??. There has to be a service on the Internet where one can translate OID's to friendly names, something like DNS for IP. Or else, this system

Problem with Datatype: Instance Identifier (II)

2005-03-07 Thread Thomas Beale
Bert Verhees wrote: In openEHR, in the RM.COMMON.IDENTIFICATION package you could find some classes that perhaps can cover your requirements better, this are OBJECT_REF, OBJECT_ID and HIER_OBJECT_ID Classes. This is interesting because a beautiful reflexion about identification and

archetypes and class constraints

2005-03-07 Thread Carl Mattocks
I vote for the pragmatic approach when we don't control the reference model quote who=Kerry Raymond A pragmatic approach would be to do what you say. We could probably argue for this just on the basis of the fact that many reference models (i.e. object models) are not well constructed, and

Authenticity Issues [was: Re: Demographics service]

2005-03-07 Thread Karsten Hilbert
However, right now, we have a health system that operates off bits of paper augmented with IT here and there. ... Surely the goal of EHR is to do better than the existing systems in some areas (so there is benefit in choosing EHR), and no worse in others (so there is no significant