Re: [openhealth] [Fwd: Re: [n-gaa] Is Open Source Good for Innovation?]

2006-03-25 Thread Thomas Beale
Nandalal Gunaratne wrote: > > > Thomas Beale <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Linus may have "an iron fist control " (though I doubt it), but there > are many FOSS projects that don't! They seem to be doing equally well. I investigated quite a lot about how he works when using BitKeeper, because th

Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-25 Thread Thomas Beale
Rod Roark wrote: > > > The point is, open source (as in Free Software) is NOT a business > model. It's a method and end result of collaboration among users. > I make good money at it only because some of those users are willing > to pay me to do the techie work for them. if someone is paying you s

Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-25 Thread Tim.Churches
Thomas Beale wrote: > Rod Roark wrote: > > > > > > The point is, open source (as in Free Software) is NOT a business > > model. It's a method and end result of collaboration among users. > > I make good money at it only because some of those users are willing > > to pay me to do the techie w

Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-25 Thread Joseph Dal Molin
In the pilot test of the criteria vendors took between roughly 30 and 300 hours to document their solutions.don't know to what extent they wentso Tim's estimate sounds reasonable. We estimated it will take 300 hours for VistA Officewe will let everyone know when we are done how long

Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-25 Thread Fred Trotter
Before I contributed to the opinions raised I would like to point out several things that my recent investigations have pointed out. First, the proposed fees are "straw man" fees CCHIT wants feedback on these prices. They are not at all set in stone. They also have some mechanisms in place to hand

Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-25 Thread Will Ross
On Mar 24, 2006, at 9:44 PM, Rod Roark wrote: > I repeat: NOBODY will pay thousands for certification of Free > Software. They will use it because they already believe in it. Rod, I have been following the CCHIT process. I do not consider CCHIT to be biased against open source. I think co

Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-25 Thread Tim.Churches
Will Ross wrote: > On Mar 24, 2006, at 9:44 PM, Rod Roark wrote: > > > I repeat: NOBODY will pay thousands for certification of Free > > Software. They will use it because they already believe in it. > > Rod, > > I have been following the CCHIT process. I do not consider CCHIT to > be bias

[openhealth] Of potential interest: Amazon S3

2006-03-25 Thread Tim.Churches
Amazon S3 is not strictly open source software but may be of interest to open source software developers and end-users. Here is the blurb from the S3 Web page at http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html/104-1570532-7764752?node=16427261 Amazon S3 is storage f

Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-25 Thread Joseph Dal Molin
It's a non-profit that won a Health and Human Services Tender to implement the ONCHIT EHR criteria. > I agree, but certifying authorities such as CCHIT (is CCHIT a govt > certification authority or is it a certifying business set up to make > money or is it an "industry" non-profit set up to p

Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-25 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
On Mar 25, 2006, at 5:01 PM, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: > and...at the risk of stating the obvious there should be some > mechanism for evaluating the certification authority and the > criteria... > Sadly, I don't know how many people are even thinking in those terms. What we are discussing

Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-25 Thread Tim.Churches
Gregory Woodhouse wrote: > On Mar 25, 2006, at 5:01 PM, Joseph Dal Molin wrote: > > > and...at the risk of stating the obvious there should be some > > mechanism for evaluating the certification authority and the > > criteria... > > > > Sadly, I don't know how many people are even thinki

Re: [openhealth] Of potential interest: Amazon S3

2006-03-25 Thread Tim.Churches
Tim.Churches wrote: > Amazon S3 is not strictly open source software but may be of interest to > open source software developers and end-users. ... > So what could S3 be used for? ... > 2) As a store-and-forward facility for the exchange of lab results or > other health messages (in encrypted form,

Re: [openhealth] CCHIT biased towards proprietary software??

2006-03-25 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
On Mar 25, 2006, at 9:01 PM, Tim.Churches wrote: > Certainly formal quality assurance mechanisms for health-related > software should be used where possible and reasonable, but it must > also > be remembered that the practice of medicine itself is, at worst, > guided > by a tradition of what