Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Help installing OI 151a on IBM x366.

2012-06-05 Thread Volker A. Brandt
> I am trying to install OI 151a on an IBM x366. This machine has the > Serveraid 8i SAS backplane, with a legacy IDE DVD rom drive. > > The machine will boot the DVD, but then gives a stream of errors on > pci@0,0/pci-ide@f/edi@0 time reset bus Yes, I have seen the same errors on an x3655 with S

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] NFS hidden files

2012-06-05 Thread Gabriele Bulfon
Nice discussion. Even though I remember not being able to remove because of a bash waiting there, but probably was a zfs destroy...and IMHO this is a more logic approach I'll read the RFCs :) Thanx! Inviato da iPad Il giorno 05/giu/2012, alle ore 22:06, James Carlson ha scritto: > Gabriel

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] NFS hidden files

2012-06-05 Thread Richard L. Hamilton
On Jun 5, 2012, at 4:06 PM, James Carlson wrote: > Gabriele Bulfon wrote: >> I understand your point. >> But, my question is...shouldn't a network filesystem try to completely >> emulate a local file system, >> trying to hide as much as possible the fact of being a network share? > > Sure, alth

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Help installing OI 151a on IBM x366.

2012-06-05 Thread Jim Klimov
2012-06-06 2:08, Christopher X. Candreva написал: I am trying to install OI 151a on an IBM x366. This machine has the Serveraid 8i SAS backplane, with a legacy IDE DVD rom drive. The machine will boot the DVD, but then gives a stream of errors ... You can also try the remote management - if t

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Help installing OI 151a on IBM x366.

2012-06-05 Thread Christopher X. Candreva
I am trying to install OI 151a on an IBM x366. This machine has the Serveraid 8i SAS backplane, with a legacy IDE DVD rom drive. The machine will boot the DVD, but then gives a stream of errors on pci@0,0/pci-ide@f/edi@0 time reset bus I've read about problems with IDE, that offered adding opti

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] NFS hidden files

2012-06-05 Thread James Carlson
Gabriele Bulfon wrote: > I understand your point. > But, my question is...shouldn't a network filesystem try to completely > emulate a local file system, > trying to hide as much as possible the fact of being a network share? Sure, although "try" is certainly the operative word here. > In this c

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What happens when a ZIL drive dies?

2012-06-05 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Jan Owoc wrote: Some applications may depend on the files (or portions thereof) making it out to disk in a specific order. The example you gave is perfect. Let's say file "A" needs to exist before a change in file "B" happens. A properly written program would write out file "A

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What happens when a ZIL drive dies?

2012-06-05 Thread Jan Owoc
On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Nick Hall wrote: > On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Jan Owoc wrote: >> >> The data on the main pool is always consistent in that a certain >> operation either made it to the disk or it didn't. However, if your >> application depends on the fact that writes make it

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What happens when a ZIL drive dies?

2012-06-05 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Richard Elling wrote: This is no different than any other file system. It is not different than EXT4? While the promise should always be the same, what actually happens seems to be very file system dependent. Bob -- Bob Friesenhahn bfrie...@simple.dallas.tx.us, http://w

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What happens when a ZIL drive dies?

2012-06-05 Thread Richard Elling
On Jun 5, 2012, at 10:32 AM, Nick Hall wrote: > On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Jan Owoc wrote: > >> >> The data on the main pool is always consistent in that a certain >> operation either made it to the disk or it didn't. However, if your >> application depends on the fact that writes make it

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What happens when a ZIL drive dies?

2012-06-05 Thread Bob Friesenhahn
On Tue, 5 Jun 2012, Nick Hall wrote: I'm just wondering, for my own personal knowledge and for anyone else who finds this thread later, for some clarification on the above quote. So, if I'm understanding this correctly, are you saying that, say I have an application and it writes to file A, then

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] What happens when a ZIL drive dies?

2012-06-05 Thread Nick Hall
On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Jan Owoc wrote: > > The data on the main pool is always consistent in that a certain > operation either made it to the disk or it didn't. However, if your > application depends on the fact that writes make it out to disk in a > specific order (that's why it's sync

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Mounting %userprofile% from Windows on OI?

2012-06-05 Thread Robbie Crash
I'm trying to use OI as the backend for my Windows desktops. One of the things I have is a userprofile directory. Rather than manually link each user's profile, I did what is normally done and have a login policy set to map the user directory to a drive on Windows via something akin to: net use U:

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] NFS hidden files

2012-06-05 Thread Gabriele Bulfon
I understand your point. But, my question is...shouldn't a network filesystem try to completely emulate a local file system, trying to hide as much as possible the fact of being a network share? In this case, how does a local filesystem like ZFS or UFS manage these situations? Local file systems

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sun Restaurant.....

2012-06-05 Thread Robbie Crash
There used to be a tanning salon like that in Winnipeg Canada in the 80s/90s. Before I knew who sun was I thought the logo was super awesome. Sended from my Android. On Jun 5, 2012 9:22 AM, "Paolo Marcheschi" wrote: > Very funny indeed, > a good place to make an openindiana summer dinner ;-0 >

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Sun Restaurant.....

2012-06-05 Thread Paolo Marcheschi
Very funny indeed, a good place to make an openindiana summer dinner ;-0 Paolo On June 5, 2012 11:36:56 AM CEST, Gabriele Bulfon wrote: thought many of you will smile at this discoverythis is a restaurant in Italy, near Milan. Look at the logo.. : I think I'll have a dinner t

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] NFS hidden files

2012-06-05 Thread Jim Klimov
2012-06-05 16:31, Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz wrote: Well ... sort of. What do you say when "rm -rf somedir" fails because some of the files within "somedir," although owned by the invoker, cannot be removed? That means that these files are still open and in use by some program, or some active

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] NFS hidden files

2012-06-05 Thread Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz
James Carlson wrote: Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz wrote: ... Well ... sort of. What do you say when "rm -rf somedir" fails because some of the files within "somedir," although owned by the invoker, cannot be removed? Or when the GUI "Trash" icon stays messy after emptying because there are f

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] NFS hidden files

2012-06-05 Thread James Carlson
Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz wrote: > > Sorry for the top post... > > These files shouldn't be accessed by daemons other than those daemons in > the NFS system. If other daemons are doing so, they're not respecting > the NFS rules of the game. Well ... sort of. What do you say when "rm -rf somed

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] NFS hidden files

2012-06-05 Thread Jose-Marcio Martins da Cruz
Sorry for the top post... These files shouldn't be accessed by daemons other than those daemons in the NFS system. If other daemons are doing so, they're not respecting the NFS rules of the game. The only thing to do with these files is to remove them after after a system crash or similar ev

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] NFS hidden files

2012-06-05 Thread James Carlson
Gabriele Bulfon wrote: > Hi, > > On NFS mounted file systems I often happen to find daemons of the client > complaining about the hidden .nfsxxx files appearing and disappearing. > These are often annoying. > > Is there any way to let the server completely hide these files to the client, > and

[OpenIndiana-discuss] Sun Restaurant.....

2012-06-05 Thread Gabriele Bulfon
thought many of you will smile at this discoverythis is a restaurant in Italy, near Milan. Look at the logo.. : I think I'll have a dinner there sooner or later! http://www.ristorantesun.it/ Gabriele ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list