Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-27 Thread Gary Gendel
On 4/26/12 10:53 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: On Thursday, April 26, 2012 08:30 PM, Gary Gendel wrote: On 4/26/12 5:01 AM, Christopher Chan wrote: On 26/04/12 12:17 AM, Gary Gendel wrote: That isn't what spamdyke is trying to accomplish here. This checks to see if the sender is trying to

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-26 Thread Christopher Chan
On 26/04/12 12:17 AM, Gary Gendel wrote: That isn't what spamdyke is trying to accomplish here. This checks to see if the sender is trying to spoof the MTA. What spamdyke is trying to do is to blacklist emails based upon the ip address embedded in the sending domain name. For example: If I get

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-26 Thread Gary Gendel
On 4/26/12 5:01 AM, Christopher Chan wrote: On 26/04/12 12:17 AM, Gary Gendel wrote: That isn't what spamdyke is trying to accomplish here. This checks to see if the sender is trying to spoof the MTA. What spamdyke is trying to do is to blacklist emails based upon the ip address embedded in

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-26 Thread låzaro
Thread name: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana? Mail number: 33 Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2012 In reply to: Gary Gendel g...@genashor.com Chris, I'm still unclear on how to do this. How could you write a regular express to check to see if the connecting ip address is buried

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-26 Thread Gary Gendel
On 4/26/12 11:54 AM, låzaro wrote: Thread name: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana? Mail number: 33 Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2012 In reply to: Gary Gendelg...@genashor.com Chris, I'm still unclear on how to do this. How could you write a regular express to check to see

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-26 Thread låzaro
name: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana? Mail number: 42 Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2012 In reply to: Gary Gendel g...@genashor.com Postfix will make a reverse lookup and if the domain not found, it will not allow get the mail. This is a completely different check. In spamdyke

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-26 Thread låzaro
Thread name: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana? Mail number: 42 Date: Thu, Apr 26, 2012 In reply to: Gary Gendel g...@genashor.com Also you can tell postfix who request to the remote server if that sender is a valid user, if it not exist i the remote server, the mail

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-26 Thread David Brodbeck
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Gary Gendel g...@genashor.com wrote: This is a problematic thing to do as many servers do not support this functionality.  I gave that approach up years ago because it adds delays for non-deterministic benefits. Yeah, it was widely switched off after spammers

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-26 Thread Christopher Chan
On Thursday, April 26, 2012 08:30 PM, Gary Gendel wrote: On 4/26/12 5:01 AM, Christopher Chan wrote: On 26/04/12 12:17 AM, Gary Gendel wrote: That isn't what spamdyke is trying to accomplish here. This checks to see if the sender is trying to spoof the MTA. What spamdyke is trying to do is

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-25 Thread Christopher Chan
... postfix is the better today :D I saw using Qmail long time ago, I like it, but is obsolete Also, I have my compiled Qmail and configured just as personal email museum Thread name: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana? Mail number: 17 Date: Tue, Apr 24, 2012 In reply to: Christopher

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-25 Thread Christopher Chan
On 24/04/12 09:08 PM, Jonathan Adams wrote: Dovecot's take on Qmail (and other MTA's http://wiki.dovecot.org/MTA ) which states qmail is an obsolete and unmaintained server. Its POP3 part can be taken over by Dovecot. Qmail started off boasting about speed and security in the mid-1990s, but has

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-25 Thread Gary Gendel
museum Thread name: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana? Mail number: 17 Date: Tue, Apr 24, 2012 In reply to: Christopher Chanchristopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk On Monday, April 23, 2012 08:44 PM, låzaro wrote: in Qmail, the security is patch-maked in postfix is by-design-maked

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-25 Thread Christopher Chan
On 25/04/12 11:06 PM, Gary Gendel wrote: Chris, I've replaced my qmail chain for SASL delivery with postfix. It took me a few rounds to get all the bits I needed working, but I'm good with the results. The non-SASL chain will be a big nut to crack. There are a lot of useful spam features in

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-25 Thread Gary Gendel
On 4/25/12 11:38 AM, Christopher Chan wrote: On 25/04/12 11:06 PM, Gary Gendel wrote: Chris, I've replaced my qmail chain for SASL delivery with postfix. It took me a few rounds to get all the bits I needed working, but I'm good with the results. The non-SASL chain will be a big nut to crack.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-24 Thread låzaro
anyway... postfix is the better today :D I saw using Qmail long time ago, I like it, but is obsolete Also, I have my compiled Qmail and configured just as personal email museum Thread name: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana? Mail number: 17 Date: Tue, Apr 24, 2012 In reply

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-24 Thread Jonathan Adams
netad...@lex-sa.cu wrote: anyway... postfix is the better today :D I saw using Qmail long time ago, I like it, but is obsolete Also, I have my compiled Qmail and configured just as personal email museum Thread name: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana? Mail number: 17 Date

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-24 Thread Gary Gendel
, låzaro wrote: anyway... postfix is the better today :D I saw using Qmail long time ago, I like it, but is obsolete Also, I have my compiled Qmail and configured just as personal email museum Thread name: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana? Mail number: 17 Date: Tue, Apr 24, 2012

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-23 Thread låzaro
in Qmail, the security is patch-maked in postfix is by-design-maked for example, smtp auth, SASL, TLS and soon. Also postfix is more modular. You can use it with someSQL LDAP and all thats cute things. If need some help with postfix, can mail me to the private, postfix is my strong point.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-23 Thread Hans J. Albertsson
I will take you up on that! On 2012-04-23 17:22, openindiana-discuss-requ...@openindiana.org wrote: Message: 2 Date: Mon, 23 Apr 2012 08:44:13 -0400 From: l?zaronetad...@lex-sa.cu To: Discussion list for OpenIndiana openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-23 Thread låzaro
I will take you up on that! done ___ OpenIndiana-discuss mailing list OpenIndiana-discuss@openindiana.org http://openindiana.org/mailman/listinfo/openindiana-discuss

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-23 Thread Christopher Chan
On Monday, April 23, 2012 08:44 PM, låzaro wrote: in Qmail, the security is patch-maked in postfix is by-design-maked NO, that is not accurate. security where it means anti-spam, DJB did not bother because as far as he is concerned, the way things are, things are just broken. Too bad his

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-22 Thread Christopher Chan
On 22/04/12 05:19 AM, Jonathan Adams wrote: you could always use Sendmail ... It's reliable, and flexible, if you can work out the configuration for it ... but Postfix is a damn sight easier to get working. people can still read sendmail rulesets? :p My biggest bug bears with Postfix are

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-22 Thread Christopher Chan
On 22/04/12 12:50 AM, Magnus Hedemark wrote: If we're going out on limbs, Haraka might be worth a look. http://haraka.github.com/ One still needs a proper mta on a later stage with haraka if used for incoming... Sounds more like a smtp proxy with filtering/authentication capabilities.

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-22 Thread Gary Gendel
Which brings us back to qmail. I've been using it flawlessly starting on a Sparc IPC running SunOS before Postfix was a gleam in Wietse Venema's eye. The darn thing is rock solid, secure, lightweight, and fast. That said, I have nothing against Postfix other that I've never had a reason to

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-22 Thread Jerry Kemp
For the most part, they don't need to any more. IMHO, during the Sendmail 8.8/8.9, or when ever the m4 macro compiler and .mc files got brought online, that event brought Sendmail up to speed on ease of configuration inline with its competitors. Jerry On 04/22/12 08:22, Christopher Chan

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-22 Thread Christopher Chan
On 22/04/12 11:28 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: For the most part, they don't need to any more. IMHO, during the Sendmail 8.8/8.9, or when ever the m4 macro compiler and .mc files got brought online, that event brought Sendmail up to speed on ease of configuration inline with its competitors. But

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-22 Thread Christopher Chan
So are people up for netqmail, daemontools, djbdns packages? On Sunday, April 22, 2012 08:34 PM, Gary Gendel wrote: Which brings us back to qmail. I've been using it flawlessly starting on a Sparc IPC running SunOS before Postfix was a gleam in Wietse Venema's eye. The darn thing is rock

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-21 Thread Hans J. Albertsson
What MTA would you suggest? On 2012-04-20 14:40, openindiana-discuss-requ...@openindiana.org wrote: Message: 8 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:00:03 +0800 From: Christopher Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-21 Thread Magnus Hedemark
Chan christopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana? Message-ID: 4f90b513.9080...@bradbury.edu.hk Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi Hans, May I ask why you would want to use

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-21 Thread Christopher Chan
, openindiana-discuss-requ...@openindiana.org wrote: Message: 8 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2012 09:00:03 +0800 From: Christopher Chanchristopher.c...@bradbury.edu.hk To: openindiana-discuss@openindiana.org Subject: Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana? Message-ID:4f90b513.9080

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-20 Thread Gary Gendel
Chris, There are no packages for Qmail that I am aware of. However, it's pretty trivial to build and install since it's dependencies are extremely small. I wrote some SMF scripts so I could use svcadm. I have two chains for incoming email. The first is on the standard port 25 and has no

Re: [OpenIndiana-discuss] Qmail-to-go on openindiana?

2012-04-19 Thread Gary
Webmin comes with a qmail modules in its standard bundle. AFAIK, Sunfreeware might be the only place to get a qmail package. Since it's no longer in development, I'd highly recommend checking out some 3rd party patches and forks if you intend to continue down this path;