HEADS-UP: plan to integrate a newer WebKit into 9-dev next week

2016-12-10 Thread Kevin Rushforth
All, As a heads-up, we plan to push an updated WebKit to FX 9-dev [1] this coming week. It is targeted to go into the jdk-9+150 promoted build. We plan to backport the newer WebKit to 8u-dev (to keep them in sync) the following week. Let me know if you have any questions. -- Kevin [1] http

Re: HEADS-UP: plan to integrate a newer WebKit into 9-dev next week.

2016-05-30 Thread Jonathan Giles
I'm not involved in WebKit work at all (so I'm no authority on this), but it sounds like what you're asking is already answered in Kevin's email that you quoted. -- Jonathan Sent from a touch device. Please excuse my brevity. On 31 May 2016 07:52:25 GMT+12:00, Matthieu BROUILLARD wrote: >Sorr

Re: HEADS-UP: plan to integrate a newer WebKit into 9-dev next week.

2016-05-30 Thread Matthieu BROUILLARD
Sorry previous mail sent before fully written. :-( Will this enhancement be backported to JDK8? Matthieu On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 12:20 AM, Kevin Rushforth < kevin.rushfo...@oracle.com> wrote: > All, > > As a heads-up, we plan to push an updated WebKit to FX 9-dev early next > week [1]. If there

Re: HEADS-UP: plan to integrate a newer WebKit into 9-dev next week.

2016-05-30 Thread Matthieu BROUILLARD
@Kevin will this upate finally find On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 12:20 AM, Kevin Rushforth < kevin.rushfo...@oracle.com> wrote: > All, > > As a heads-up, we plan to push an updated WebKit to FX 9-dev early next > week [1]. If there are no build problems, they will be integrated to 9 > master the follo

Re: HEADS-UP: plan to integrate a newer WebKit into 9-dev next week.

2016-05-30 Thread dalibor topic
On 27.05.2016 15:10, Konstantin Pasko wrote: Hi Kevin, sorry for the offtopic, but as you just mentioned JDK 10, could you please tell us what is planned for that release? You can track JEPs being drafted for 10 at http://openjdk.java.net/jeps/0 . cheers, dalibor topic --

Re: HEADS-UP: plan to integrate a newer WebKit into 9-dev next week.

2016-05-27 Thread Kevin Rushforth
We're too focused on JDK 9 to think about JDK 10 yet. After we stabilize JDK 9 we'll start planning. At that time we will solicit feedback from the openjfx-dev community to help prioritize. -- Kevin Konstantin Pasko wrote: Hi Kevin, sorry for the offtopic, but as you just mentioned JDK 10,

Re: HEADS-UP: plan to integrate a newer WebKit into 9-dev next week.

2016-05-27 Thread Kevin Rushforth
As I mentioned before, it is a non-trivial amount of work to integrate it into FX. We don't use the WebKit native renderer, rather the WebKit renderer is implemented by calling into Prism. Further, we use DirectX on Windows, which adds an additional complication (yes I know that WebGL has a sol

Re: HEADS-UP: plan to integrate a newer WebKit into 9-dev next week.

2016-05-27 Thread Felix Bembrick
Can you at least let me know why the JavaFX usage of WebKit does *not* support WebGL when native WebKit itself always has? Is there some technical or architectural barrier? > On 27 May 2016, at 22:51, Kevin Rushforth wrote: > > No, I don't have anything further to add about WebGL, if that's w

Re: HEADS-UP: plan to integrate a newer WebKit into 9-dev next week.

2016-05-27 Thread Konstantin Pasko
Hi Kevin, sorry for the offtopic, but as you just mentioned JDK 10, could you please tell us what is planned for that release? Something from the high level? New/missing features, controls, huge bugfixes? Googling "javafx road map" or "javafx jdk10" gives no results and looking through https://bug

Re: HEADS-UP: plan to integrate a newer WebKit into 9-dev next week.

2016-05-27 Thread Kevin Rushforth
No, I don't have anything further to add about WebGL, if that's what you are asking. As for moving to Blink, that would be a very large effort. We do not currently plan to do this for JDK 10, but could reevaluate it in the future if something changes. -- Kevin Felix Bembrick wrote: Any co

Re: HEADS-UP: plan to integrate a newer WebKit into 9-dev next week.

2016-05-27 Thread Felix Bembrick
Any comments on this? Isn't it time to move to Blink? > On 13 May 2016, at 04:32, Felix Bembrick wrote: > > Thanks Kevin. > > I was more curious as to why WebGL support hasn't been there since day 1, > given that WebKit itself supports it. > > Felix > >> On 13 May 2016, at 01:52, Kevin Rushf

Re: HEADS-UP: plan to integrate a newer WebKit into 9-dev next week.

2016-05-12 Thread Felix Bembrick
Thanks Kevin. I was more curious as to why WebGL support hasn't been there since day 1, given that WebKit itself supports it. Felix > On 13 May 2016, at 01:52, Kevin Rushforth wrote: > > It was an issue of resources versus priority and scope. JDK 9 is focused on > Jigsaw modularity and a few

Re: HEADS-UP: plan to integrate a newer WebKit into 9-dev next week.

2016-05-12 Thread Kevin Rushforth
It was an issue of resources versus priority and scope. JDK 9 is focused on Jigsaw modularity and a few other minor features. It is more of a "smoothing out" release than a big feature release (except for Jigsaw). We expect JDK 10 to be a somewhat more feature-oriented release. -- Kevin Feli

Re: HEADS-UP: plan to integrate a newer WebKit into 9-dev next week.

2016-05-11 Thread Felix Bembrick
Do you mind if I ask what the rationale behind such a decision is? From an admittedly perhaps totally ignorant outside observer, it would seem to me that any cost/benefit analysis would basically put this feature in the "no brainer" category and should have been implemented at the very least sin

Re: HEADS-UP: plan to integrate a newer WebKit into 9-dev next week.

2016-05-11 Thread Kevin Rushforth
No. WebGL support is not planned for JDK 9. We will look at this for JDK 10. -- Kevin Felix Bembrick wrote: Will this new WebKit finally support WebGL? Just by supporting WebGL in the JavaFX WebView will instantly enable an entire new set of 3D features and access to a plethora of JavaScript

Re: HEADS-UP: plan to integrate a newer WebKit into 9-dev next week.

2016-05-10 Thread Felix Bembrick
Will this new WebKit finally support WebGL? Just by supporting WebGL in the JavaFX WebView will instantly enable an entire new set of 3D features and access to a plethora of JavaScript 3D libraries for "free". And, Google Maps will finally work too. > On 11 May 2016, at 08:20, Kevin Rushforth

HEADS-UP: plan to integrate a newer WebKit into 9-dev next week.

2016-05-10 Thread Kevin Rushforth
All, As a heads-up, we plan to push an updated WebKit to FX 9-dev early next week [1]. If there are no build problems, they will be integrated to 9 master the following week for jdk-9+119. We then plan to backport the newer WebKit (to keep them in sync) to 8u-dev a couple weeks later. The on