Re: [opensc-devel] A 'real' web server certificate for opensc-project.org from godaddy

2007-05-06 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Hi Nils, I don't want to drag this discussion too far with my answer here, but please note, that a self-signed certificate is absolutely worthless, except in case: 1.) You created it. 2.) Wrote down it's fingerprint. 3.) Everybody relying on it, received the fingerprint by other (and secure

Re: [opensc-devel] A 'real' web server certificate for opensc-project.org from godaddy

2007-05-06 Thread Nils Larsch
Andreas Jellinghaus wrote: ... > the more important questions is: but why do we need an official ssl > certificate at all? there is no user information on opensc-project.org, > all we use ssl for is the developer write access to the svn repository > (and the login with trac and awstats and munin -

Re: [opensc-devel] A 'real' web server certificate for opensc-project.org from godaddy

2007-05-05 Thread Alaric Dailey
CAcerts inclusion status into Mozilla can be found here... https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=215243 While here is StartComs inclusion statuses http://cert.startcom.org/?app=140 'nuff said. Ives Steglich wrote: --On Mittwoch, 2. Mai 2007 14:14 +0300 Martin Paljak <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [opensc-devel] A 'real' web server certificate for opensc-project.org from godaddy

2007-05-05 Thread Ives Steglich
--On Mittwoch, 2. Mai 2007 14:14 +0300 Martin Paljak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Today I found this: > > https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/ssl/ssl_opensource.asp?ci=5988 > > Free for one year. Why not? > Well there is cacert.org too, similar to startcom except you don't pay anything and browser

Re: [opensc-devel] A 'real' web server certificate for opensc-project.org from godaddy

2007-05-02 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Justin Karneges wrote: However, I do agree that StartCom is a nice service... is enough for me to recommend its usage. Both thumbs up! For the Psi XMPP client project, we plan to distribute the StartCom root certificate with the client Also here, both thumbs up...obviously we know about your

Re: [opensc-devel] A 'real' web server certificate for opensc-project.org from godaddy

2007-05-02 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Andreas Jellinghaus wrote: hu? our official statistic tells me: Firefox Nein 5556 45.2 % MS Internet Explorer Nein 2855 23.2 % Hey Andreas, that's cool! Much better than expected even... so I could use startcom. Good! the more important questions is: but why do we need an offici

Re: [opensc-devel] A 'real' web server certificate for opensc-project.org from godaddy

2007-05-02 Thread Martin Paljak
On 03.05.2007, at 0:01, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote: > On Wednesday 02 May 2007 19:59:37 Nils Larsch wrote: >> Martin Paljak wrote: >>> But real life statistics say: 80% users use IE (in Estonia) >> >> 80% of the opensc-project.org visitors use IE I'm little >> bit disappointed :-( I'm not say

Re: [opensc-devel] A 'real' web server certificate for opensc-project.org from godaddy

2007-05-02 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
On Wednesday 02 May 2007 19:59:37 Nils Larsch wrote: > Martin Paljak wrote: > > On 02.05.2007, at 15:21, Alaric Dailey wrote: > >> StartCom has free certs, and is now accepted by most browsers. > > > > Nice service. > > > > But real life statistics say: 80% users use IE (in Estonia) > > 80% of the

Re: [opensc-devel] A 'real' web server certificate for opensc-project.org from godaddy

2007-05-02 Thread Justin Karneges
On Wednesday 02 May 2007 5:36 am, Martin Paljak wrote: > On 02.05.2007, at 15:21, Alaric Dailey wrote: > > StartCom has free certs, and is now accepted by most browsers. > > Nice service. > > But real life statistics say: 80% users use IE (in Estonia) > > So unless IE accepts the certificate ( I'l

Re: [opensc-devel] A 'real' web server certificate for opensc-project.org from godaddy

2007-05-02 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Nils Larsch wrote: 80% of the opensc-project.org visitors use IE I'm little bit disappointed :-( Nils At Distrowatch they announced that only 30 % are using an open source browser. Even less are using Linux...what a shame...But hey, even at the StartCom CA (see http://cert.startcom.org a

Re: [opensc-devel] A 'real' web server certificate for opensc-project.org from godaddy

2007-05-02 Thread Nils Larsch
Martin Paljak wrote: > On 02.05.2007, at 15:21, Alaric Dailey wrote: >> StartCom has free certs, and is now accepted by most browsers. > > Nice service. > > But real life statistics say: 80% users use IE (in Estonia) 80% of the opensc-project.org visitors use IE I'm little bit disappointed

Re: [opensc-devel] A 'real' web server certificate for opensc-project.org from godaddy

2007-05-02 Thread Eddy Nigg (StartCom Ltd.)
Thank you Alaric for your suggestion. Actually we offered that already some time ago, but I think Andreas opted for not securing (Because of the need for a dedicated IP address?) Don't remember... However specially in Europa, the market share of IE is declining. For example read http://www.hei

Re: [opensc-devel] A 'real' web server certificate for opensc-project.org from godaddy

2007-05-02 Thread Martin Paljak
On 02.05.2007, at 15:21, Alaric Dailey wrote: > StartCom has free certs, and is now accepted by most browsers. Nice service. But real life statistics say: 80% users use IE (in Estonia) So unless IE accepts the certificate ( I'll omit my comments on the green bar thing) it is not that good fo

Re: [opensc-devel] A 'real' web server certificate for opensc-project.org from godaddy

2007-05-02 Thread Alaric Dailey
Martin Paljak wrote: Today I found this: https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/ssl/ssl_opensource.asp?ci=5988 Free for one year. Why not? S tartCom has free certs, and is now accepted by most browsers .

[opensc-devel] A 'real' web server certificate for opensc-project.org from godaddy

2007-05-02 Thread Martin Paljak
Today I found this: https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/ssl/ssl_opensource.asp?ci=5988 Free for one year. Why not? -- Martin Paljak ___ opensc-devel mailing list opensc-devel@lists.opensc-project.org http://www.opensc-project.org/mailman/listinfo/opensc-