Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Reasons to change to Solaris

2005-10-08 Thread Martin 'MC' Brown
Unfortunately, we can't update that when we deliver new versions in patches, so relying on the DESC field is not useful. There is no generic way to find the upstream version of software in a Solaris package - you have to rely on the software to have a -v or --version or equivalent. And that

[osol-discuss] irssi

2005-10-08 Thread Sh
If someone wants to use irssi irc client on solaris 10 - 11 x86 but gets errors connected with perl, do the following: cd src/perl/common edit Makefile remove -KPIC flag remove optimization flags -xO3 -xspace -xlidoff Do this in src/perl/common,src/perl/ui,src/perl/textui,src/perl/irc Only by

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Reasons to change to Solaris

2005-10-08 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Saturday 08 October 2005 02:37 am, Martin 'MC' Brown wrote: VERSION: 11.10.0,REV=2005.08.26.07.05 The above info pertains to Solaris. I know that, you know that. New users? Especially those who might be trying Solaris out from Linux? No argument, but wouldn't the user do: $ bash

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Sparc ? x86 Comparison

2005-10-08 Thread S Destika
I don't mean to start a flamewar - I already said Solaris has gotten a lot better with S10 but come on - it still has slower fork, slower thread creation the last I checked even on S10. The SPEC benchmarks also are a piece of Crap, are they? All I was saying to the OP was that if he uses 1-2

Re: [osol-discuss] irssi

2005-10-08 Thread Eric Enright
On 10/8/05, Sh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If someone wants to use irssi irc client on solaris 10 - 11 x86 but gets errors connected with perl, do the following: cd src/perl/common edit Makefile remove -KPIC flag remove optimization flags -xO3 -xspace -xlidoff Do this in

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: Swtching from Windows to Solaris

2005-10-08 Thread Dennis Clarke
On 10/8/05, Alan DuBoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Friday 07 October 2005 07:48 pm, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: Alan DuBoff wrote: snip I will try to find time to re-install Solaris Express 23. Now, come to think about it, I believe what happened was that, when se23 did not recognize

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: Swtching from Windows to Solaris

2005-10-08 Thread David Schanen
On Friday 07 October 2005 07:48 pm, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: The fact that Solaris is different from Linux, and that it requires a steeper learning curve, may actually be advertised as an advantage. (Read: an elite OS) Easy may not play well with business users. OTOH a default Linux

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Reasons to change to Solaris

2005-10-08 Thread Al Hopper
On Sat, 8 Oct 2005, Martin 'MC' Brown wrote: Unfortunately, we can't update that when we deliver new versions in patches, so relying on the DESC field is not useful. There is no generic way to find the upstream version of software in a Solaris package - you have to rely on the

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Swtching from Windows to Solaris

2005-10-08 Thread Al Hopper
On Fri, 7 Oct 2005, W. Wayne Liauh wrote: Dennis Clarke wrote: I don't really know what the problem is with build 23 but somehow I _highly_ doubt we went from networking working fine to does not configure by default in one rev. I installed build 23 twice, and neither time it installed

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Sparc ? x86 Comparison

2005-10-08 Thread ken mays
--- Cyril Plisko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2005-10-08 at 07:35 -0700, S Destika wrote: I don't mean to start a flamewar - I already said Solaris has gotten a lot better with S10 but come on - it still has slower fork, slower thread creation the last I checked even on S10. The SPEC

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Sparc ? x86 Comparison

2005-10-08 Thread Bill Rushmore
Thank you Theo for making the point about OS's is exactly I wanted to convey about CPU architecture. I have seen several articles with OS comparisons but little when it comes to hardware architecture. It looks like I have researching to do and I think I'll write my own article on the

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: Swtching from Windows to Solaris

2005-10-08 Thread Alan DuBoff
On Saturday 08 October 2005 09:33 am, David Schanen wrote: No one is truly qualified to speak on how easy or difficult Solaris or GNU/Linux is outside their specific domain of experience. Everyone is entitled to speak for themself on how difficult they feel either are. This is all opinion

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: Re: Re: Sparc ? x86 Comparison

2005-10-08 Thread S Destika
You'd better backup your statements with figures. I already referred to SPEC benchmarks. If you will only believe in what Sun says, check this http://bugs.opensolaris.org/bugdatabase/view_bug.do?bug_id=4240498 - it is open since ages and talks about Fork being 2-6 times faster on Linux. (Yeah

Re: [osol-discuss] irssi

2005-10-08 Thread Theo Schlossnagle
On Oct 8, 2005, at 11:55 AM, Eric Enright wrote:On 10/8/05, Sh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If someone wants to use irssi irc client on solaris 10 - 11 x86 but gets errors connected with perl, do the following:cd src/perl/commonedit Makefileremove -KPIC flagremove optimization flags -xO3 -xspace

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Re: Reasons to change to Solaris

2005-10-08 Thread Martin 'MC' Brown
Hi, Please do me a favor,when you doing the investigation of Solaris SVR4 PMS(package mangement system), please look at TWW's Hyper PMS that released with GPL licence. (see ref1 and ref2). I will do - thanks for the tip :) MC -- Martin 'MC' Brown, http://MCslp.com