[osol-discuss] Intel 82562EZ Network Controller support

2007-02-07 Thread Girts Zeltins
Hello, I want to inform that there is no supported yet Intel 82562EZ Network Controller in Solaris. This controller is on Intel D915PBL motherboard. There is need to support it as soon as possible. Regards, Girts This message posted from opensolaris.org __

Re: [osol-discuss] The new "The Love you Take is equal to the Love you Make" Open(2) License

2007-02-07 Thread Simon Phipps
On Feb 6, 2007, at 12:31, James Carlson wrote: GPLv3 doesn't exist, and therefore doesn't matter. There's no way to compare it with anything. (Well, except for the set of other non-existent things, to which it's equal. ;-}) The drafts are public and clear. See http://gplv3.fsf.org (note:

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun Microsystems Solaris on HP

2007-02-07 Thread Stefan Teleman
On Thursday 08 February 2007 00:01, Paul Maher wrote: > I'm a newbie. We have several sun systems we purchased our sun > reseller, MCA http://www.mcac.com. We are now migrating some of > our applications on to HP servers. Would they support solaris 10? http://www.hp.com/wwsolutions/solaris/inde

Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you? (was Re: [Fwd: Re: [osol-discuss] GPLv3?])

2007-02-07 Thread Jim Grisanzio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote On 02/07/07 23:41,: I'd say OpenSolaris/Solaris success looks pretty much like this: http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/02/06/1448200.shtml Interesting thread. Seems we are slowly making progress. Bubbling up in other conversations is really an excellent sign. Thank

Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you? (was Re: [Fwd: Re: [osol-discuss] GPLv3?])

2007-02-07 Thread Jim Grisanzio
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote On 02/08/07 00:24,: I think your PR bacjkround has made you used to slightly more polite discourse :-) Actually, my specialty in Sun PR before OpenSolaris was rapid response and competitive attack ... not very polite at all. :) Jim

[osol-discuss] Re: Community participation

2007-02-07 Thread Shawn Walker
> > The testing process is also difficult at best at > the > > moment since you need to test for x86 and SPARC, > and > > let's face it, most folks have an x86 box, not a > > SPARC box. > > Used SPARC hardware is dirt cheap nowdays. I just got > me 2 x SunFire V100 for $200 USD apiece, and they're

[osol-discuss] Re: CAB/OGB Position Paper # 20070207

2007-02-07 Thread Shawn Walker
Thank you *so much* for putting this statement forth. Our community needed clarity and closure. "+1e6 at least" to echo someone else's comment. -Shawn Contributor # OS0004 This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing li

Re: [osol-discuss] how do you divy up a USB flash drive

2007-02-07 Thread Mike "Ford" Ditto
I posted some scripts for doing the fdisk, format, etc. here: http://blogs.sun.com/ford/entry/world_s_smallest_bootable_solaris -=] Ford [=- ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Sun Microsystems Solaris on HP

2007-02-07 Thread James C. McPherson
Paul Maher wrote: I'm a newbie. We have several sun systems we purchased our sun reseller, MCA http://www.mcac.com. We are now migrating some of our applications on to HP servers. Would they support solaris 10? Good question. Care to give details on the boxes you're migrating to and from?

[osol-discuss] Sun Microsystems Solaris on HP

2007-02-07 Thread Paul Maher
I'm a newbie. We have several sun systems we purchased our sun reseller, MCA http://www.mcac.com. We are now migrating some of our applications on to HP servers. Would they support solaris 10? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensola

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Al Hopper wrote: Agreed. I followed that discussion, downloaded the SCMs and was a proponent of git to begin with. But git failed miserably in testing. Personally I had hoped for git to succeed - but it failed on its own demerits in fair and open testing against the competition. git certainly

Re: [osol-discuss] how do you divy up a USB flash drive

2007-02-07 Thread frits vanderlinden
John Brewer wrote: I was able to partition a UDB SD memory card, But when I run a format I get no disk found? i.e: # fdisk /dev/rdsk/c2t0d0p0 Total disk size is 59 cylinders Cylinder size is 2048 (512 byte) blocks Cylinde

[osol-discuss] how do you divy up a USB flash drive

2007-02-07 Thread John Brewer
I was able to partition a UDB SD memory card, But when I run a format I get no disk found? i.e: # fdisk /dev/rdsk/c2t0d0p0 Total disk size is 59 cylinders Cylinder size is 2048 (512 byte) blocks Cylinders Partition

Re: [osol-discuss] Embeddable Open Solaris

2007-02-07 Thread Peter Buckingham
Hi Robert, Robert Milkowski wrote: PB> Honeycomb is an archival storage appliance based on Solaris and Java. We PB> essentially have a clustered environment (8/16 nodes) and a mechanism to PB> store and retrieve data (SDK/API). The data on the system is protected PB> through self-healing (kind o

Re[2]: [osol-discuss] Embeddable Open Solaris

2007-02-07 Thread Robert Milkowski
Hello Peter, Wednesday, February 7, 2007, 6:23:43 PM, you wrote: PB> Joerg Schilling wrote: >> Peter Buckingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >>> For Honeycomb we use ramdisk images that we load from disk. The images >>> are ~700MB, but it is possible to make usable Solaris images < 400 MB. >>

Re: [osol-discuss] CAB/OGB Position Paper # 20070207

2007-02-07 Thread Glynn Foster
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> So yeah, this is cool to see, and quite a nice touch. >> >> However, it's interesting in some other ways. I note this is 'version 0.6' - >> which suggest that you're collaborating in forums outside >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] or the genunix wiki, and obviously the conference

Re: [osol-discuss] CAB/OGB Position Paper # 20070207

2007-02-07 Thread Casper . Dik
>So yeah, this is cool to see, and quite a nice touch. > >However, it's interesting in some other ways. I note this is 'version 0.6' - >which suggest that you're collaborating in forums outside >[EMAIL PROTECTED] or the genunix wiki, and obviously the conference calls. When the CAB was establishe

[osol-discuss] First beta of jambi is here

2007-02-07 Thread De Togni Giacomo
Take QT technology,sum Java language and realize Jambi! :-) This is the link: http://www.trolltech.com/developer/downloads/qt/qtjambi-beta Giacomo __ OpenSolaris - The Pride of a community This message posted from opensolaris.org __

[osol-discuss] Solaris 10 on Inspiron 6000

2007-02-07 Thread Brian Tyndall
Hi, I have just installed Solaris 10 on my laptop, but I cannot find any utility for configuring the intel wireless adaptor, in choosing which network to access. Can anyone help me please? This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-di

Re: [osol-discuss] CAB/OGB Position Paper # 20070207

2007-02-07 Thread Glynn Foster
Hey, James C. McPherson wrote: > Al Hopper wrote: >> CAB/OGB Position Paper # 20070207 version 0.6 >> >> Topic: Should OpenSolaris be dual licensed via CDDL and GPLv3 >> >> Published by: OpenSolaris CAB/OGB current members: >> Casper Dik, Al Hopper

[osol-discuss] Re: Embeddable Open Solaris

2007-02-07 Thread Jim Connors
Been meaning to do this for some time, finally broke down and started a blog. The first entry is dedicated to creating small footprint RAM resident Solaris configs. Check out http://blogs.sun.com/jtc/ Regards, -- Jim C This message posted from opensolaris.org __

Re: [osol-discuss] CAB/OGB Position Paper # 20070207

2007-02-07 Thread James C. McPherson
Al Hopper wrote: CAB/OGB Position Paper # 20070207 version 0.6 Topic: Should OpenSolaris be dual licensed via CDDL and GPLv3 Published by: OpenSolaris CAB/OGB current members: Casper Dik, Al Hopper, Roy Fielding, Simon Phipps, Rich Teer ... +1e6 at least. Thankyou. James C. McPherson

[osol-discuss] CAB/OGB Position Paper # 20070207

2007-02-07 Thread Al Hopper
CAB/OGB Position Paper # 20070207 version 0.6 Topic: Should OpenSolaris be dual licensed via CDDL and GPLv3 Published by: OpenSolaris CAB/OGB current members: Casper Dik, Al Hopper, Roy Fielding, Simon Phipps, Rich Teer Background: Over the past week or so a heated and passionate debate has

[osol-discuss] Re: Zones FAQ

2007-02-07 Thread Michelle Olson
> Hello, > > recently I had discussion with our DBA about Oracle > DISM in zones. I had > remembered that it wasn't possible to use it inside > local zone > and started looking for docs which can be read by the > DBA. > While looking for it I encountered (again because I > had read it before) > zo

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread ken mays
When the community controls this, it will be the community volunteers who will carry more of the burden; what we're doing is quite unique: continue to develop an OS while opening up the development process and the source code management system. I'm not sure how we could approach this much differe

[osol-discuss] Re: SXCR Build 56 available

2007-02-07 Thread W. Wayne Liauh
> I don't mean to spoil the party, certainly > OpenSolaris has improved immensely, but my laptop > HP/Compaq NC6220 with Broadcom wireless, iwi, used to > work with earlier builds B52 I think. With B54, > B55, B56, wireless disappears. scanpci sees the > hardware, pc8086,4220, but I can't get w

RE: [Fwd: Re: [osol-discuss] GPLv3?]

2007-02-07 Thread James Mansion
Stephen Harpster wrote: > There are a lot of GPL bigots out there. And you *want* to appeal to them? Seriously - why? Are these bigots running datacentres? Are they running startups that have a hope in hell of actually making money - as opposed to generating PR and then just chewing their VC f

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal - TPM Drivers

2007-02-07 Thread Wyllys Ingersoll
Darren J Moffat wrote: We don't need a project for that that can be covered by the existing crypto project if this is just about using them as crypto framework plugins. That is already in scope for the crypto project that already exists on opensolaris.org. If what you really want is a pr

Re: [osol-discuss] Project Proposal - TPM Drivers

2007-02-07 Thread Darren J Moffat
Wyllys Ingersoll wrote: I would like to propose a new project for OpenSolaris.org. The project will be called "Solaris TPM Drivers". The goal is to create TPM (Trusted Platform Module) kernel drivers and cryptographic framework plugins for OpenSolaris to facilitate future secure computing work.

[osol-discuss] Project Proposal - TPM Drivers

2007-02-07 Thread Wyllys Ingersoll
I would like to propose a new project for OpenSolaris.org. The project will be called "Solaris TPM Drivers". The goal is to create TPM (Trusted Platform Module) kernel drivers and cryptographic framework plugins for OpenSolaris to facilitate future secure computing work. Having properly plumbed

[osol-discuss] lost opportunities: Teamware

2007-02-07 Thread John Plocher
Alan Burlison wrote: Joerg Schilling wrote: Well, there was a statement (from I believe it was Keith) that Sun was going to work OSSing Teamware in 2005. I was waiting for the results on this. So were we all... If you read the links I posted, you'll see that this was in fact the case, bu

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Stephen Hahn
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-02-07 09:04]: > When the community controls this, it will be the community volunteers > who will carry more of the burden; what we're doing is quite unique: > continue to develop an OS while opening up the development process > and the source code manag

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal -- Honeycomb Information and dev tools

2007-02-07 Thread Stephen Lau
Darren J Moffat wrote: Stephen Lau wrote: What I also dislike is, for lack of a better phrase, "random ass +1" being contributed by people who clearly have a vested interest (read: they are in, or part of the direct management chain) of the project group. If an engineer's manager or director

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Frank Van Der Linden
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In earnest, I think that flamefest is really overstating what is happening here. If this is a flamefest, I can show the people who call it that *real* flamefests and then some :-) Seriously, this isn't bad at all for a community of opinionated geeks.. Maybe I'm jaded

Re: [osol-discuss] Embeddable Open Solaris

2007-02-07 Thread Peter Buckingham
Joerg Schilling wrote: Peter Buckingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: For Honeycomb we use ramdisk images that we load from disk. The images are ~700MB, but it is possible to make usable Solaris images < 400 MB. I am sorry, it seems that I did miss what "Honeycomb" is, yould you please tell agai

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Embeddable Open Solaris

2007-02-07 Thread Peter Buckingham
UNIX admin wrote: Wasn't it possible to do it in a cleaner way, i.e. start from SUNWCrnet and use pkgrm, so that the system integrity remains consistent? I have to try that exercise one of these days... Yep, I actually remove some packages too. But to get to ~64MB I think you will need to be a

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Glynn Foster
Joerg Schilling wrote: > Frank Van Der Linden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> It was an open process. > > I read this on a regular base but what I did read did not look > to an open discussion process to me. The result was fixed by Sun > before the discussion started and this is why I did not

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal -- Honeycomb Information and dev tools

2007-02-07 Thread James Carlson
Darren J Moffat writes: > I think a "+1 I wish to contribute actively to this project" (by code, > design, documentation, discussion whatever it maybe code is certainly > not the only way) is worth a million times more than a "me too". At I take those "me toos" to mean "I'll use this feature

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal -- Honeycomb Information and dev tools

2007-02-07 Thread Stefan Teleman
On Wednesday 07 February 2007 12:04, Darren J Moffat wrote: > what it if it a non code project ? Not all projects should be > required to be code based. Granted, but i'm assuming that 6 months from inception, a project should show some signs of activity of some sort. :-) --Stefan -- Stefan Te

Re: [osol-discuss] Project proposal method

2007-02-07 Thread James Carlson
Darren J Moffat writes: > I would be happy with either of these cases: > > 1) A simple sum of the +1 and -1 replies regardless of who they came from. > > 2) Abandon any voting requirement at all and make the whole thing automatic. I'm not happy with either. (1) assumes into existence some sort

Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you? (was Re: [Fwd: Re: [osol-discuss] GPLv3?])

2007-02-07 Thread Casper . Dik
>So.. you're saying we should completely give up on the desktop and >attracting developers? The article you reference talks about a server >focus. No, giving up the desktop is giving up on everything. Sun's executives made that mistake once before. How did Sun get to the datacenter?

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Casper . Dik
>Oh boy. Now you've done it! > >Larry was /one/ member of a team that designed and implemented >Teamware. I'm sure Larry likes to think it's all about him, but the >other members of the Teamware team don't and if any of them read this >list, you've pretty much just started another flamefest!

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal -- Honeycomb Information and dev tools

2007-02-07 Thread Darren J Moffat
Stefan Teleman wrote: On Tuesday 06 February 2007 15:58, James Carlson wrote: At least at this point, I'd be disinclined to reject a project unless it either looks like the output from /dev/urandom or like this: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-terrell-math-quant-ternar y-logic-of-b

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal -- Honeycomb Information and dev tools

2007-02-07 Thread Darren J Moffat
Stephen Lau wrote: What I also dislike is, for lack of a better phrase, "random ass +1" being contributed by people who clearly have a vested interest (read: they are in, or part of the direct management chain) of the project group. If an engineer's manager or director is pressuring the engine

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Stephen Harpster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Oh boy. Now you've done it! > > Larry was /one/ member of a team that designed and implemented > Teamware. I'm sure Larry likes to think it's all about him, but the > other members of the Teamware team don't and if any of them read this > list, yo

Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you? (was Re: [Fwd: Re: [osol-discuss] GPLv3?])

2007-02-07 Thread Stephen Harpster
So.. you're saying we should completely give up on the desktop and attracting developers? The article you reference talks about a server focus. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd say OpenSolaris/Solaris success looks pretty much like this: http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/02/06/1448200.

[osol-discuss] Project proposal method

2007-02-07 Thread Darren J Moffat
Stephen Lau wrote: So here's a suggestion for a revised project proposal policy that Ben and I hashed out over email. Ben, please correct me if I miss anything... Projects need to be affiliated with, or get the sponsorship of an already existing community and what if there is not appropriat

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Stephen Harpster
Oh boy. Now you've done it! Larry was /one/ member of a team that designed and implemented Teamware. I'm sure Larry likes to think it's all about him, but the other members of the Teamware team don't and if any of them read this list, you've pretty much just started another flamefest! Jo

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Alan Burlison
Ghee Teo wrote: It saddened me to see a dedicated honorable OpenSolaris community member such as yourself drew such conclusion (or having such perception) about Sun, I feel like I am wasting all my time reading all the discussion here :-( If we can build up trust among us day in da

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Alan Burlison
Joerg Schilling wrote: Well, there was a statement (from I believe it was Keith) that Sun was going to work OSSing Teamware in 2005. I was waiting for the results on this. If you read the links I posted, you'll see that this was in fact the case, but that it never came to fruition. From my

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Ghee Teo
This is not much work but it does not make sense to discuss _before_ SCCS is opensourced. The fact that the SCM discussion started before OSSing SCCS makes it obvious to me that there was a Sun internal vote against SCCS before the "discussion" went public. It saddened me to see a dedicate

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Al Hopper
On Wed, 7 Feb 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> >I still don't understand why Sun did device to move to Hg while > >>> >it looks simple to ehance sccs. The problem is that the SCCS source > >>> >has not been made available fast enough to allow peopl

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The tools-discuss group discussed this issue at length, including > the criteria for selection and how the other candidates fell by the > way side. > > Was it really necessary to wait until SCCS or teamware were opensourced? Of course it was. > Teamware was pretty much

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >The fact is that Teamware had been EOL'd by Sun before OpenSolaris > >started - see http://docs.sun.com/source/816-7532/relnote40.html, > >"Removal of Features", and it was well recognised within the Sun Solaris > >community that we needed to move to something else

Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you? (was Re: [Fwd: Re: [osol-discuss] GPLv3?])

2007-02-07 Thread Casper . Dik
>To me, this is /the/ issue in our discourse as a community. I'm happy we >got many substantive issues out on the table that were articulated >absolutely professionally (and those posts were obvious), but we also >attacked far too many people -- and entire groups and communities, >actually -- in t

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Casper . Dik
>The fact is that Teamware had been EOL'd by Sun before OpenSolaris >started - see http://docs.sun.com/source/816-7532/relnote40.html, >"Removal of Features", and it was well recognised within the Sun Solaris >community that we needed to move to something else, and OpenSolaris >moved the switc

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Casper . Dik
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >>> >>> >I still don't understand why Sun did device to move to Hg while >>> >it looks simple to ehance sccs. The problem is that the SCCS source >>> >has not been made available fast enough to allow people to point to >>> >possible solutions. >>> >>> "Sun" did not

Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you? (was Re: [Fwd: Re: [osol-discuss] GPLv3?])

2007-02-07 Thread Casper . Dik
I'd say OpenSolaris/Solaris success looks pretty much like this: http://linux.slashdot.org/linux/07/02/06/1448200.shtml Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Dennis Clarke
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >> >I still don't understand why Sun did device to move to Hg while >> >it looks simple to ehance sccs. The problem is that the SCCS source >> >has not been made available fast enough to allow people to point to >> >possible solutions. >> >> "Sun" did not decide to

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Alan Burlison
Joerg Schilling wrote: I read this on a regular base but what I did read did not look to an open discussion process to me. The result was fixed by Sun before the discussion started and this is why I did not join this discussion. On the basis of what evidence? Based on my impression. That's

Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you? (was Re: [Fwd: Re: [osol-discuss] GPLv3?])

2007-02-07 Thread Casper . Dik
>If the discussion were about discarding the current license and >adopting a different one, that'd be different. I don't see the same >risk of long-term community damage from that, though there are almost >certainly other issues. There's still a potential fork issue: the current code can continu

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Frank Van Der Linden
Joerg Schilling wrote: I read this on a regular base but what I did read did not look to an open discussion process to me. The result was fixed by Sun before the discussion started and this is why I did not join this discussion. I can assure you that everyone approached it with an open mind.

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan Burlison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joerg Schilling wrote: > > > I read this on a regular base but what I did read did not look > > to an open discussion process to me. The result was fixed by Sun > > before the discussion started and this is why I did not join this > > discussion. > > On

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Alan Burlison
Joerg Schilling wrote: I read this on a regular base but what I did read did not look to an open discussion process to me. The result was fixed by Sun before the discussion started and this is why I did not join this discussion. On the basis of what evidence? I can assure you it wasn't fixed

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Frank Van Der Linden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> "Sun" did not decide to move to Hg; it was pretty much an open process > >> which led to the selection of Hg. > >> > > > > I am not aware of a real discussion on that. > > > Read the tools-discuss archives. The whole selection process wa

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Chroot users to their home directory

2007-02-07 Thread Mark Phalan
On Tue, 2007-02-06 at 18:17 -0800, Matty wrote: > I haven't heard back from anyone, and was curious if the folks at Sun could > comment (or forward the original message to someone who could) on the bugs > listed in the original message? > You might find this interesting: http://blogs.sun.com/j

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Casper . Dik
>I believe that there is little, if any, benefit to dual-licensing >OpenSolaris with CDDL and the yet to be approved/upcoming GPLv3 license - >aside from possible good press for the project. In addition, I believe >that there are significant downsides to dual licensing, including, but not >limite

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: Project Proposal -- Honeycomb Information and dev tools

2007-02-07 Thread James Carlson
Stefan Teleman writes: > Maybe we could enforce some kind of automatic self-destruct timer from > the date of project inception. For example, if a project doesn't > check in any code within 6 months of inception, it self-destructs. I don't think that really addresses the problem either, as some

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Al Hopper
On Tue, 6 Feb 2007, Roy T. Fielding wrote: lots of wise words elided . > > Otherwise, stick with the CDDL. GPLv3 cannot be evaluated seriously > until it is actually approved by the FSF and published in final form. > Even then, dual-licensing wouldn't make any sense, but at least we'd >

[osol-discuss] Re: Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Jim Grisanzio
> "Roy T. Fielding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Roy, I would like to meet you in Berlin at OSDEVCON > for a more > in depth talk on the CAB and license stuff... > > > The first day that the CAB met, almost two years > ago, we talked about > > all of the things that OpenSolaris needed to do to

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Frank Van Der Linden
Joerg Schilling wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still don't understand why Sun did device to move to Hg while it looks simple to ehance sccs. The problem is that the SCCS source has not been made available fast enough to allow people to point to possible solutions. "Sun" did not d

[osol-discuss] Re: Embeddable Open Solaris

2007-02-07 Thread Doug Scott
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >>I'm more interested in paring things down to a > minimal kernel that can > >>be loaded from FLASH. 64-128MB would be my target. > >> > >> > > > >My minimized install miniroot is a 64MB; so it > should be possible to make > >that work (it's a full kernel runnin

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >I still don't understand why Sun did device to move to Hg while > >it looks simple to ehance sccs. The problem is that the SCCS source > >has not been made available fast enough to allow people to point to > >possible solutions. > > "Sun" did not decide to move to H

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Casper . Dik
>I still don't understand why Sun did device to move to Hg while >it looks simple to ehance sccs. The problem is that the SCCS source >has not been made available fast enough to allow people to point to >possible solutions. "Sun" did not decide to move to Hg; it was pretty much an open process

Re: [osol-discuss] Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you?

2007-02-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
"Roy T. Fielding" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Roy, I would like to meet you in Berlin at OSDEVCON for a more in depth talk on the CAB and license stuff... > The first day that the CAB met, almost two years ago, we talked about > all of the things that OpenSolaris needed to do to become successful

Re: [osol-discuss] Embeddable Open Solaris

2007-02-07 Thread Joerg Schilling
Peter Buckingham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > For Honeycomb we use ramdisk images that we load from disk. The images > are ~700MB, but it is possible to make usable Solaris images < 400 MB. I am sorry, it seems that I did miss what "Honeycomb" is, yould you please tell again? Jörg -- EMail:[

[osol-discuss] Re: Embeddable Open Solaris

2007-02-07 Thread Doug Scott
> > That may well be possible with some more extreme > > measures. What I started > > with is the reduced network core install which is > > ~200MB. This doesn't > > include ssh, but does include a bunch of things > that > > may not be of interest. > > > > You may find you will have to use rm judic

[osol-discuss] Re: Community participation

2007-02-07 Thread UNIX admin
> The testing process is also difficult at best at the > moment since you need to test for x86 and SPARC, and > let's face it, most folks have an x86 box, not a > SPARC box. Used SPARC hardware is dirt cheap nowdays. I just got me 2 x SunFire V100 for $200 USD apiece, and they're both practically

[osol-discuss] what is the path of source directory?

2007-02-07 Thread devendra
hi as i know before searching anything it must be indexed for indexing which the source Directory...tell me the paths of src and index directorys This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@o

[osol-discuss] Re: Community participation

2007-02-07 Thread UNIX admin
> IBM is also embracing it on their blade centers, and > are a reseller of > Solaris. Maybe so -- I can't comment on that, but I can say that IBM is badmouthing Solaris every chance they get. They even have a magazine that features IBM solutions on Linux, and lots of articles are specifically f

[osol-discuss] Re: Community participation

2007-02-07 Thread UNIX admin
> > On 31-Jan-07, at 9:37 PM, Jim Grisanzio wrote: > > > > > Some have been considering a "bug bounty" program, > so yes, I think > > we ought to consider specific programs to engage > more people in > > more ways and then call attention to their > contributions. > > Fantastic! > :) I honest

[osol-discuss] Re: Embeddable Open Solaris

2007-02-07 Thread UNIX admin
> That may well be possible with some more extreme > measures. What I started > with is the reduced network core install which is > ~200MB. This doesn't > include ssh, but does include a bunch of things that > may not be of interest. > > You may find you will have to use rm judiciously. > Also if

[osol-discuss] Re: Embeddable Open Solaris

2007-02-07 Thread UNIX admin
> For Honeycomb we use ramdisk images that we load from > disk. The images > are ~700MB, but it is possible to make usable Solaris > images < 400 MB. True. I have a 348MB (if I recall correctly) Flash(TM) image of Solaris 10 6/06 that supports IPFilter, NFS, NIS, DNS, SSH, all the drivers + vari

Re: What does OpenSolaris Success look like to you? (was Re: [Fwd: Re: [osol-discuss] GPLv3?])

2007-02-07 Thread Jim Grisanzio
Glynn Foster wrote On 02/07/07 15:16,: Hey, Jim Grisanzio wrote: I think the lists on opensolaris.org (177 of them currently) represent pretty well the community in the U.S. That's where the vast majority of traffic and posts come from and it's not even close. However, there are many people

[osol-discuss] Zones FAQ

2007-02-07 Thread przemolicc
Hello, recently I had discussion with our DBA about Oracle DISM in zones. I had remembered that it wasn't possible to use it inside local zone and started looking for docs which can be read by the DBA. While looking for it I encountered (again because I had read it before) zones FAQ at http://www.