On 20/04/07, Ceri Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 06:13:16PM -0500, Shawn Walker wrote:
> On 19/04/07, Ceri Davies <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > True, and I don't have a problem with that. However, I will also
> > grant an irrevocable license to everyone who "receives
On 4/24/07, Stephen Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
UNIX admin wrote:
>> I'm glad we've managed to dumb things way down in the
>> last 20 years:
> ...
>> No longer do we need to write in assembly language
>> (or machine code or ...)
sure we do.
I don't think we will ever get away from the hardw
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Except that the Device Driver community is defunct, having no contributors
nor core contributors able to participate in community decision making, and
as noted, it's really a better fit for Storage or the proposed File Systems
community than Device Dr
I'm sorry, at the moment Sun just doesn't have the software tools I need. (I
work for a big corp. )
I have made a vow that when VMWare workstation comes out for Solaris, I will
start running a Solaris desktop. (I have held of switching to a Linux desktop
in the hopes that Sun will come through
> But if all you wanted to do is just "get stuff out
> of your computer", then why are you here? Why
> Solaris? Somebody with that kind of mentality can be
> perfectly happy on Windows. If you don't care about
> how it all works, you don't need the most advanced
> operating system on the planet. W
have you tried to see what was in the core, i.e. use strings ./core |more or
better yet use pmap or
pstach ./core
check the man page and check out the related commands.
1. bash-3.00# strings core|more
CORE
exename
/pathtoexename
CORE
i86pc
CORE
CORE
CORE
:1.29
org.freedesktop.
CORE
exen
All,
I can affiliate with the storage community until an FS community exists
if that works
for everyone. Oversight on my part not to have included this as part of
the proposal.
Thanks for the feedback,
Ted
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Alan DuBoff wrote:
What if you just make it a condition that T
Alan DuBoff wrote:
What if you just make it a condition that Ted needs to get the
affiliation?
Tom Haynes said this has happened, so I'm satisfied.
If it's just a formality that Ted didn't get an affiliation
from an existing community, I would affiliate with the Device Driver
community, whi
Can anyone give a make and model of a Blue Ray drive?
Admittedly, I
don't
know much about any of that new stuff.
Joerg, I'll buy you one and send it your way so that
you can work on
it, if
I can find one to buy.
->
If you are looking for Sony Blu-Ray drives:
You c
now - the weird thing is that i left the laptop overnight, then updated a very
similar model vaio in the same way. that worked fine, so i tried the 1st laptop
again.
this time it worked! i have no idea what changed between then & now :/
grrr
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On Tue, 24 Apr 2007, Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Ted Pogue wrote:
I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the
community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive
Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS.
The project proposal draft bein
Alan Coopersmith wrote:
Ted Pogue wrote:
I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to
the community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage
Archive Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS.
The project proposal draft being considered by the OG
Hi,
Its a Ultra 45 Workstation so there is no RCS, Openboot is/was updated tó
latest for a few weeks ago when the machine arrived.
System PROM revisions:
--
OBP 4.22.19 2006/09/06 23:42 Sun Ultra 45 Workstation
POST 4.22.19 2006/09/07 00:06
-
The machine is now running b61 pe
> community groups - would it be fair to assume this
> project will be
> affiliated with the existing Storage community?
I have been told that there is going to be a new file system community soon.
This seems to be the ideal fit.
-brian
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Ted Pogue wrote:
I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the
community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive
Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS.
The project proposal draft being considered by the OGB right now
would require
On 4/24/07, Ted Pogue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Project Overview:
I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the
community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive
Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS. These data
services ex
On 4/24/07, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Tom Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Considering these are currently unbundled and shipping products, that
> might be hard. I.e., would you want to tell
> customers that they need to learn new commands, change all of their
> scripts, etc?
On 4/24/07, Tom Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Joerg Schilling wrote:
> Ted Pogue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>> Project Overview:
>>
>> I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the
>> community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive
On 4/24/07, Joerg Schilling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Ted Pogue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Project Overview:
>
> I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the
> community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive
> Manager or SAM and the
Tom Haynes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Considering these are currently unbundled and shipping products, that
> might be hard. I.e., would you want to tell
> customers that they need to learn new commands, change all of their
> scripts, etc?
Does this mean that my fears are correct?
Consderin
On 4/24/07, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The number of true IT experts and professionals is dwindling exponentially
every day.
Dindling exponentially? Where are they all going? Perhaps systems are getting
harder to use so professionals are lkess productive and we nee more ofthem?
I
Joerg Schilling wrote:
Ted Pogue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Project Overview:
I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the
community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive
Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS. These
Ted Pogue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Project Overview:
>
> I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the
> community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive
> Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS. These data
> services
EXCELLENT! +1!
-dt
Ted Pogue wrote On 04/24/07 13:57,:
Project Overview:
I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to
the community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage
Archive Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS. These
data
Ok, I have finally been able to install the nfo drivers onto my machine and
setup all the usual networking files to set my device to static ip. Alas, I
still have no network access! I cannot ping my router and have run out of ideas
on how I can troubleshoot why I am not able to get solaris to pl
Ted Pogue writes:
> I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the
> community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive
> Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS. These data
Wow! +1 from me.
--
James Carlson, Solaris Networking
Is there a plan to incorporate this into Solaris Express?
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Ted Pogue wrote:
>
> Project Overview:
>
> I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the
> community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive
> Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS. These data
> services exist today and are di
Project Overview:
I propose the creation of a project on opensolaris.org, to bring to the
community Solaris host-based data services; namely the Storage Archive
Manager or SAM and the Solaris shared file system QFS. These data
services exist today and are distributed commercially by Su
3 little demos by Martin Man. Available as of today.
http://martinman.net/software/nexenta
Thanks Martin.
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> But if all you wanted to do is just "get stuff out of
> your computer", then why are you here? Why Solaris?
> Somebody with that kind of mentality can be perfectly
> happy on Windows. If you don't care about how it all
> works, you don't need the most advanced operating
> system on the planet. Wi
UNIX admin wrote:
And we've progressed... how exactly?
Look at Google Sketchup for a great example of the virtues of being able
to spend developer energies on 2nd and 3rd order features like intuitive
ease of use and great tutorials rather than on counting bytes in rendering
subroutines.
It is
> P.S. - I can't believe some people are actually
> advocating making a tool harder to use just so people
> will be forced to learn the underlying technology.
> That completely defeats the purpose of technological
> progress!!
If you're referring to me, you got it wrong. I don't believe cdrecord s
UNIX admin wrote:
I'm glad we've managed to dumb things way down in the
last 20 years:
...
No longer do we need to write in assembly language
(or machine code or ...)
And that's a good thing? That we now have compilers generating bloated code
that make it unthinkable to run a modern GUI?
He
> I'm glad we've managed to dumb things way down in the
> last 20 years:
...
> No longer do we need to write in assembly language
> (or machine code or ...)
And that's a good thing? That we now have compilers generating bloated code
that make it unthinkable to run a modern GUI?
Hey, I was coding
> PS: If "the number of true IT experts and
> professionals is dwindling exponentially every day",
> you might say that the free market is letting it
> happen because it doesn't need them. That
> observation matters to Sun because they probably want
> to appeal to the new guard before the old guar
For background on what this is, see:
http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=24416#24416
http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/message.jspa?messageID=25200#25200
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opensolaris-discuss 04/01 - 04/15
=
Size of all threads du
> You certainly do have a point from a different
> angle. I'd agree with
> you on this CS/IT skill thing. I've had CS students
> asking me: What
> is Unix ? Is it something similar to Linux ? I
> have interviewed folks
> who have done Java Web Services development but
> did not know
> how to se
ken mays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Do you have a Blu Ray drive in a machine and could
> give me
> a login on that machine?
> ---
>
> 1. I'll get a machine set up. Let me know if you need
> Solaris 10 or SXCE (what build) and we can go from
> there.
As
UNIX admin wrote:
My point is, quite simply, if we dumb everything down,
I'm glad we've managed to dumb things way down in the last 20 years:
No longer do we need to wire up plugboards to program the mainframes.
No longer do we need to toggle front panel switches to bootstrap a system.
No lon
ken mays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was asking if you needed immediate access to a
> Blu-Ray drive and/or workstation for development
> purposes.
> I'd gladly donate some funds for hardware if you're
> willing to provide the solution.
Do you have a Blu Ray drive in a machine and could
give m
I don't know about that specific WiFi adapter, but you're more likely to
have support for Wifi with recent Solaris Nevada builds rather than
Solaris 10. Unless you intend to buy support or need to something
specific to Solaris 10, I'd recommend Solaris Express Developer Edition:
http://develo
Hey,
For Xfce on Solaris 8, 9, & 10, I would suggest you use the blastwave
packages (Note: They are built for Solaris 8 - no DBUS, HAL etc). For Solaris
Express >= build 61, there is now a Xfce (+extras) binary release for x86
hardware (sorry no SPARC yet) on the Open Solaris Xfce project sit
Brian Gupta wrote:
ISO's, then you will need to convince Sun to take on
the burden
of building, shipping, and supporting them - which at
the minimum
will require reviews by the Architecture Review
Committee (ARC)
and Sun's Product management committees, which for
KDE would
probably take closer to
> ISO's, then you will need to convince Sun to take on
> the burden
> of building, shipping, and supporting them - which at
> the minimum
> will require reviews by the Architecture Review
> Committee (ARC)
> and Sun's Product management committees, which for
> KDE would
> probably take closer to mo
ken mays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was asking if you needed immediate access to a
> Blu-Ray drive and/or workstation for development
> purposes.
> I'd gladly donate some funds for hardware if you're
> willing to provide the solution.
Do you have a Blu Ray drive in a machine and could give m
On 4/24/07, Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Manish Chakravarty wrote:
> Hi everyone,
>
> Could we have XFCE/KDE in the next OpenSolaris build?
OpenSolaris has no builds to include them in - it's a source
base for distros to be built from, and I believe a couple of
the distros already
hello all.
the title says it all. Im currently downloading Solaris 10 and...its my first
time migrating to open-source OSes.
my current PC is a 2.4GHz Intel Celeron D (which is of the X86 architecture,
isnt it?), 512MB od DDR RAM and 80GB harddisk space, and a Samsung CD-ROM drive.
My system
Another annoyance. I keep getting emails about 'discuss' forum. The unfortunate
thing is that their are multiple forums named discuss, and there really doesn't
seem to be an east way to distinguish between them.
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Manish Chakravarty wrote:
Hi everyone,
Could we have XFCE/KDE in the next OpenSolaris build?
OpenSolaris has no builds to include them in - it's a source
base for distros to be built from, and I believe a couple of
the distros already include those.
If you're referring to the Solaris Express
Manish Chakravarty wrote:
Hi everyone,
Could we have XFCE/KDE in the next OpenSolaris build
If you wish to have an OpenSolaris related discussion on this I highly
suggest that [EMAIL PROTECTED] is the appropriate alias
and please look at what is going on in the desktop community first:
http
On 4/24/07, Manish Chakravarty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi everyone,
Could we have XFCE/KDE in the next OpenSolaris build?
Both of them work on OpenSolaris.
KDE 3.4.3 has been built using Sun Studio.
It would be great for KDE users (like me) or other XFCE users (I am sure
there must be some)
Hi everyone,
Could we have XFCE/KDE in the next OpenSolaris build?
Both of them work on OpenSolaris.
KDE 3.4.3 has been built using Sun Studio.
It would be great for KDE users (like me) or other XFCE users (I am sure
there must be some)
KDE is good for the power users , IMHO (I have no intention
ken mays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As stated before, it seems we need the hardware and
> specs available to the right software engineers that
> will provide the solution.
>
> 1. Sony has a workstation (130G, $1500 USD) and
> Blu-Ray drives (BWU-100A and BRU-100A (external)).
The
> 25GB Blu-Ray
Brian Nitz wrote:
I'm troubleshooting a problem with recognition of an external SCSI tape
drive through a KME PCMCIA card bus. I've found references to the
openboot probe-scsi-all command but since X86 hardware typically lacks
openboot firmware, what is the equivalent of probe-scsi-all on Solari
I'm troubleshooting a problem with recognition of an external SCSI tape drive
through a KME PCMCIA card bus. I've found references to the openboot
probe-scsi-all command but since X86 hardware typically lacks openboot
firmware, what is the equivalent of probe-scsi-all on Solaris X86?
This m
+1
Many customers are asking for higher performance from the IPoIB and we now have
a project to deliver some improvements.
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IT maintenance is one thing. Scientific innovation is a different thing
altogether.
I can tell you this much: the software GUI is not the cause of a degeneration
of computer science. There is nothing smart or noble about typing a word
instead of clicking a button. If anything, GUIs make life
--- UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Solaris only needs to improve if Sun wants to stay
> > competitive and grow its market and mind share.
> If
> > it wasn't for that little hitch, Solaris could
> remain
> > as painful as your heart desired.
>
> Solaris isn't "painful", but easy and e
ken mays <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As stated before, it seems we need the hardware and
> specs available to the right software engineers that
> will provide the solution.
>
> 1. Sony has a workstation (130G, $1500 USD) and
> Blu-Ray drives (BWU-100A and BRU-100A (external)). The
> 25GB Blu-Ray
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007, Alan DuBoff wrote:
...
If Chung wants to help, he should get involved and try to fix it...
+1000
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Brian Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Shouldn't DVD burning be included in this discussion? I need all formats of
> DVD + and - as well as single and double layer.
>
Well, cdrecord supports this
Jörg
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UNIX admin wrote:
[...]
Moinak, I urge you to think carefully one more time about what you've written
(an excellent reply BTW). The number of true IT experts and professionals is
dwindling exponentially every day. Over here I've got bakers and train drivers
and construction workers bei
> Just so I'm clear, the Nexenta design philosophy is
> (as with many other
> people) one of the things you're mainly interested
> in here? Is that what
> gives rise to most of the sentiments and
> observations you're expressing here?
>
Nexenta design philosophy? I am not sure what you are
refer
Hi Brian,
> In particular I am wondering if there is any work done or planned to start
> supporting additional file systems. Foe example:
> - jffs2/squashfs
I have one student who just started to work on JFFS2 support. Based on
docu, just from scratch, it will take some time.
Another is working
"Anil Gulecha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not specifically asking for a Solaris port of
linux Nero. I'm
asking for
> a well designed GUI for burning CD/DVDs.. if Nero
*were* to be
ported, it
> would be a great choice.
The problem is thsat many people ask for something to
happen instead of
Shouldn't DVD burning be included in this discussion? I need all formats of DVD
+ and - as well as single and double layer.
Also I think that ideally there is a good scriptable cli tool, ideally the sam
tool has a simple to use GUI, in addition to an ncurses interface.
How many people really ne
On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 14:01 +0200, Joerg Schilling wrote:
> UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Wrapping lines correctly is the job of the MUA.
>
> No, it is not. For this reason, the Mail RFC
> allows a max line length of 78 characters.
The RFC also says "it is encumbant upon implementat
On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 02:06 -0700, UNIX admin wrote:
> My point is, quite simply, if we dumb everything down, once we're
> gone, the knowledge and experience might very well be lost. Forever.
As long as there's one person who still needs to make use of that
knowledge and experience, it won't get
"Anil Gulecha" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not specifically asking for a Solaris port of linux Nero. I'm asking for
> a well designed GUI for burning CD/DVDs.. if Nero *were* to be ported, it
> would be a great choice.
The problem is thsat many people ask for something to happen instead of h
You were asked to report a bug . It might cause creating a CR (Change Request)
It works fine when you perform production support for Enterpise System
maintained by Company, paying a good money to software vendor. I am not quite
sure that in open source development process it will work as good as
UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I thought that it was obvious that an OpenSolaris
> > based product cannot be
> > compatible to Sun Solaris 10.
>
> Why would that be obvious? I've compiled binaries on Nevada and ran them on
> Solaris 10 without a hitch, so no, it is not obvious.
The f
> I'm not specifically asking
> for a Solaris port of linux Nero. I'm asking for
> a well designed GUI for burning CD/DVDs.. if Nero
> *were* to be ported, it would be a great
> choice.I'm a Campus ambassador for SUN,
> and spread awareness about Solaris and other SUN
> technologies on campus. It i
3) Why can't the emails I get include the body of the post?
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Why can't the emails I get include the topic of the post, in addition to the
links?
Why are there no digest mailing formats?
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On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 12:34 +0200, Mark Phalan wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 03:04 -0700, Brian Gupta wrote:
> > Understanding that ZFS is the world's most advanced filesystem, there are
> > times when other filesystem types are needed.
> >
> > In particular I am wondering if there is any work d
Andrew Pattison writes:
> How do I disable IPv6 on the loopback?
It's enabled automatically if you have one or more regular IPv6
interfaces at boot time (plumbed by /etc/hostname6.*), or if you're
using the phase 0 NWAM feature.
You can disable it at run time by doing "ifconfig lo0 inet6 unplumb.
On Tue, 2007-04-24 at 03:04 -0700, Brian Gupta wrote:
> Understanding that ZFS is the world's most advanced filesystem, there are
> times when other filesystem types are needed.
>
> In particular I am wondering if there is any work done or planned to start
> supporting additional file systems. F
On 4/24/07, UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> @all: Yes, I know that wrappers exist, and
> have used xcdroast previously. The last gcombust
> release was in 2003. Lets just say I like my GUIs
> pretty and intuitive. The graveman screenshots look
> promising. The point is there are no produ
Hi guys,
A Solaris (SXDE) Parallels Virtual Machine Appliance (i.e., a
pre-installed SXDE Parallels image) is now ready for your download on
Sun Download Center!
Generally speaking, this ready-to-resume appliance enables you to run
Solaris inside Parallels virtual machine (http://www.parallels.co
Hi Brian,
Replies inline.
On 4/24/07, Brian Gupta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Understanding that ZFS is the world's most advanced filesystem, there are
times when other filesystem types are needed.
unsure
- FAT16/FAT32
These are supported.
- NTFS
- ext3
The above are not supported by
Understanding that ZFS is the world's most advanced filesystem, there are times
when other filesystem types are needed.
In particular I am wondering if there is any work done or planned to start
supporting additional file systems. Foe example:
- jffs2/squashfs
- FAT16/FAT32
- NTFS
- ext3
- HFS+
sorry, I did't understand (my english is poor as my unix knowledge :-)
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> Solaris only needs to improve if Sun wants to stay
> competitive and grow its market and mind share. If
> it wasn't for that little hitch, Solaris could remain
> as painful as your heart desired.
Solaris isn't "painful", but easy and elegant. It's a matter of opinion, and in
particular, it's a
Richard L. Hamilton wrote:
Seriously, the next thing you know, you'll want a "wizard" or dancing paper
clip or some such to step the newcomers through the choices that can't
just be defaulted (like what kinds of systems do you want to be able to
read this CD: Apple (Mac OS X), Solaris, Linux, Wi
> I thought that it was obvious that an OpenSolaris
> based product cannot be
> compatible to Sun Solaris 10.
Why would that be obvious? I've compiled binaries on Nevada and ran them on
Solaris 10 without a hitch, so no, it is not obvious.
To be fair, I recently compiled something on Solaris 10
UNIX admin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Nero is a child's plaything compared to cdrtools from Joerg Schilling, that
> BTW come built into Solaris:
>
> cdrecord -scanbus
> cdrecord -v -data -sao dev=c,t,l /var/tmp/MyImage.ISO
>
> where "c,t,l" are the numbers you'd get from `cdrecord -scanbus`, an
> I seem to have not been as clear as I should have. I
> sugest Nero not because there is no other alternative
> but because it is simple better. from and end user
> rospective it is highly intuative, can do anything
> you could posibly want,
Actually, no, it can not. For example, the kind of UDF
> Ummm we have a couple of user groups here ...
> developers/power users
> ho want scriptablity
> and power, casual users and newbies who want ease
> of use.
> A developer/power user will go gaga over the
> power, flexibility,
> etailed output and scriptability
> that cdrecord and mkisofs prov
> @all: Yes, I know that wrappers exist, and
> have used xcdroast previously. The last gcombust
> release was in 2003. Lets just say I like my GUIs
> pretty and intuitive. The graveman screenshots look
> promising. The point is there are no production
> quality ones, that could be included in SX by
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