Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris CD/DVD Distribution availability as of 01/30/2008

2008-01-31 Thread Joerg Schilling
Ken Gunderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 30 Jan 2008 18:30:22 -0800 > Scott Nasuta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > km> OpenSolaris CD/DVD Distributions as of 01/30/2008: > > km> > > km> 1. Indiana Live CD (still beta) > > km> 2. Solaris Express: Community Edition (b81) > > km> 3. So

Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris CD/DVD Distribution availability as of 01/30/2008

2008-01-31 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan Coopersmith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Marketing determined a while ago it was easier to just > declare the first week of February as "January 2.0" than > to go back and change the names everywhere when it slipped > a little. 8-) Looks like the Y2K changes have been lost already Shou

Re: [osol-discuss] Tab auto-completion doesn't work?

2008-01-31 Thread Casper . Dik
>> # cp /usr/bin/i86/ksh93 /sbin/sh >> will fix your problem. > >And also damage the system's consistency. And it will cause all running copies of "sh" to crash. Casper ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Tab auto-completion doesn't work?

2008-01-31 Thread UNIX admin
> Bummer, I thought was done by now, but just hadn't > yet gotten around to > checking. Could very well be. I know it's being worked on, and I know that preview binaries are available, perhaps in a package form as well. A little digging on opensolaris.org will surely turn up what the current st

Re: [osol-discuss] Tab auto-completion doesn't work?

2008-01-31 Thread UNIX admin
> # cp /usr/bin/i86/ksh93 /sbin/sh > will fix your problem. And also damage the system's consistency. That is something one should *never* do. There are other ways, for instance, delivering one's own ksh93 as a package in a separate directory until it makes it into the build. This message po

Re: [osol-discuss] Tab auto-completion doesn't work?

2008-01-31 Thread UNIX admin
> no? Routinely done on HP-UX boxes inside of HP. If > not, then why? What do you mean by "routinely done on HP boxes inside of HP"? Just like Solaris, HP-UX is well known for being forward compatible and guaranteeing compatibility. I've never observed any of hp's products changing the root's

Re: [osol-discuss] Any guides for users from linux?

2008-01-31 Thread Tim Scanlon
One thing that's good to do on a new system is set up the "windex" files in /usr/man /usr/sfw/man and any other man directories contained in your MANPATH for use with the "apropos" and "whatis" commands. You can do this by: cd /usr/man /usr/lib/makewhatis . This way you can at least find functio

Re: [osol-discuss] Tab auto-completion doesn't work?

2008-01-31 Thread UNIX admin
> You can change your own login shell with "passwd -e". > If you mean > hanging /sbin/sh to be ksh93, then you need to > redesign the system or > create your own OpenSolaris-based distribution or > pick one that does > this. That's exactly right. And the amount of work necessary to implement this

Re: [osol-discuss] Any guides for users from linux?

2008-01-31 Thread Orvar Korvar
this FAQ is several pages and a good introduction: http://www.sun.drydog.com/faq/ This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] Tab auto-completion doesn't work?

2008-01-31 Thread UNIX admin
> How do I make the change permanent? To do this, cleanly, in such a way that it scales, you'd have to deliver your own private copy of ksh93 in /opt/whatever/bin/. This in turn implies that you'd have to compile ksh93 such, that he looks for the system-wide configuration files (profile, etc.)

Re: [osol-discuss] 76B Cannot find install software

2008-01-31 Thread Alan O'Leary
I still have this problem in b81 ... Really hurting here as have a team of people looking to try this out and wanting to move to OpenSolaris but are blocked as all operate on new hardware which throws up this problem This message posted from opensolaris.org _

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-01-31 Thread Joerg Schilling
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > If Indiana is/becomes a (too) Linux or GNU "inspired" platform, a majority > > of > > the longstanding Solaris users in the community will not follow. Note that > > the > > people who used Solaris before OpenSolaris came out could have selected > > Linux > > a long

[osol-discuss] HDMI graphics card w/audio that works with solaris

2008-01-31 Thread Mike DeMarco
Does anyone know of or better yet use a HDMI video card that includes digital audio and works with solaris drivers? Looking to setup a media center. This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@o

Re: [osol-discuss] Any guides for users from linux?

2008-01-31 Thread Joerg Schilling
Tim Scanlon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > One thing that's good to do on a new system is set up the "windex" files in > /usr/man /usr/sfw/man and any other man directories contained in your MANPATH > for use with the "apropos" and "whatis" commands. You can do this by: > cd /usr/man > /usr/lib/ma

[osol-discuss] PCI to 4 CF slot adapter as hard disk

2008-01-31 Thread eagle liu
Not long ago,one new item PCI to 4 CF slot adapter was sold on market ,this new item was sold very expensive at present,I know one China factory of professional CF-IDE adapter is developing this item ,their website: http://www.cf-ide-adapter.com .We hope the price will be cheaper soon. This

[osol-discuss] ZFS performance issues on filesystem which *used* to have large numbers of files

2008-01-31 Thread Chris Linton-Ford
Hi all, I've recently cleared out a directory on a ZFS filesystem that had ~2 million files in it. Even after clearing out, listing the directory takes in the order of two minutes. I thought it might be something to do with the fact that the files were still being held in snapshots of the the file

Re: [osol-discuss] Why are there no 16 socket (or more) x64 servers onthe market?

2008-01-31 Thread Stewart, David C
>From: Dennis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Why are there no 16 socket (or more) x64 (Xeon or Opteron) servers on the >market? > >1. is there no demand? I had the chance today to pose this question to Intel's "Lead Strategist" in the Digital Enterprise Group. His response was something like this:

Re: [osol-discuss] ZFS performance issues on filesystem which *used* to have large number

2008-01-31 Thread Mike DeMarco
Have you tried to do a zpool scrub ? > Hi all, > > I've recently cleared out a directory on a ZFS > filesystem that had ~2 > million files in it. Even after clearing out, listing > the directory > takes in the order of two minutes. I thought it might > be something to do > with the fact that t

Re: [osol-discuss] ZFS performance issues on filesystem which *used* to have large number

2008-01-31 Thread Mike DeMarco
what does the output of zdb look like This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

[osol-discuss] Proposal for Initiator mode driver for Brocade FC HBAs

2008-01-31 Thread Ramkumar Vadivelu
Hi, Greetings! We would like to submit the following project proposal: Project Synopsis: Initiator mode driver for Brocade FC HBAs Project Description: This project would deliver an initiator mode driver for Brocade Fibre Channel HBAs. The initiator mode driver is designed to work with Solaris

[osol-discuss] Proposal for Target mode driver for Brocade FC HBA

2008-01-31 Thread Ramkumar Vadivelu
Hi, Greetings! We would like to submit the following project proposal: Project Synopsis: Target mode driver for Brocade FC HBAs Project Description: This project would deliver target mode driver for Brocade Fibre Channel HBAs. The target mode driver is designed to work with Solaris COMSTAR so

[osol-discuss] Programs compiled on OpenSolaris backwards compatible with Solaris 10?

2008-01-31 Thread Gary Gendel
I know that this may be a silly question, but if I create (compile/link) an executable under OpenSolaris x86, will it run under Solaris 10 x86, or do I have to do it the other-way round? Thanks, Gary This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ ope

Re: [osol-discuss] Programs compiled on OpenSolaris backwards compatible with Solaris 10?

2008-01-31 Thread Alan Coopersmith
Gary Gendel wrote: > I know that this may be a silly question, but if I create (compile/link) an > executable under OpenSolaris x86, will it run under Solaris 10 x86, or do I > have to do it the other-way round? Other way around - you have to compile on the oldest release you want to support, so

Re: [osol-discuss] Proposal for Initiator mode driver for Brocade FC HBAs

2008-01-31 Thread James Carlson
Ramkumar Vadivelu writes: > Project Synopsis: > Initiator mode driver for Brocade FC HBAs Sounds good, but you need to make the proposal in the appropriate community group, rather than here. See: http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/ogb/policies/project-instantiation.txt and: http://www

[osol-discuss] Why Solaris SPARC can not identify a PCI board but x86 can?

2008-01-31 Thread Tom Chen
hello, I have a 2 ports PCI board. On the x86 machine, a "prtconf" shows: pci1014,36f (driver not attached) pci1014,36e (driver not attached) but on a SPARC machine, "prtconf" result becomes: ethernet (driver not attached)

Re: [osol-discuss] Why Solaris SPARC can not identify a PCI board but x86 can?

2008-01-31 Thread UNIX admin
> hello, > > I have a 2 ports PCI board. On the x86 machine, a > "prtconf" shows: > pci1014,36f (driver not > attached) >pci1014,36e (driver not attached) > chine, "prtconf" result becomes: > ethernet (driver not attached) > pci1014,36e (driver not attached

[osol-discuss] simulating directio on zfs?

2008-01-31 Thread Andrew Robb
The big problem that I have with non-directio is that buffering delays program execution. When reading/writing files that are many times larger than RAM without directio, it is very apparent that system response drops through the floor- it can take several minutes for an ssh login to prompt for

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-01-31 Thread Dave Miner
Joerg Schilling wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> If Indiana is/becomes a (too) Linux or GNU "inspired" platform, a majority >>> of >>> the longstanding Solaris users in the community will not follow. Note that >>> the >>> people who used Solaris before OpenSolaris came out could have sele

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-01-31 Thread Casper . Dik
>And some people praised it and supported the experimental changes made >there. FIt still pretty much sounds like Sun's age old mistake of "fsck our old customers, lets get some new ones". >So much of this reminds me of all the BSD-SVR4 religion of 20 years ago. > SunOS changed then to bui

Re: [osol-discuss] SXCE Build 80 Coming Next week

2008-01-31 Thread Derek Cicero
>> Based what I have heard, I am going to skip builds 79 & 80 altogether, and wait and go directly to 81. Correct. Builds 79 & 80 will not be released. Derek -- Derek Cicero Program Manager Solaris Kernel Group, Software Division ___ opensolaris-dis

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-01-31 Thread Casper . Dik
>And some people praised it and supported the experimental changes made >there. Note that experimtal changes are extremely important and that I think we're not doing enough of the experimenting bits (and this is pretty hard to do for a wide audience because experiments are bound to fail in some

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-01-31 Thread Tim Spriggs
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> So much of this reminds me of all the BSD-SVR4 religion of 20 years ago. >> SunOS changed then to build something better, and my view is that's to >> a fair extent similar to what we're doing with Indiana. I keep hoping >> we can agree on the need to change and star

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-01-31 Thread Casper . Dik
>> Which is why change for change sake is wrong and thorough analysis is >> needed to determine what changes are really needed. >> >How can you do a thorough analysis of a change that has so many >(unknown) consequences? I don't think it's possible. I think it is clear that it is technically

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-01-31 Thread UNIX admin
> Pardon, but please don't spread misinformation about > Indiana. When > Indiana goes through ARC, etc. and completes the > process, it will be > "standards compliant" according to Sun's guidelines. Until that happens, SXCE is Alpha & Omega. The law. And frankly, we will see just how well "Indian

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-01-31 Thread Alan Coopersmith
UNIX admin wrote: > You and some other people might find themselves surprised if "Indiana" > actually causes a first OpenSolaris fork ever because of malcontent. I'd be very surprised if someone rewrote history to declare Indiana the cause of the first OpenSolaris fork, given that we've already g

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-01-31 Thread UNIX admin
> If Indiana is/becomes a (too) Linux or GNU "inspired" > platform, a majority of > the longstanding Solaris users in the community will > not follow. Note that the > people who used Solaris before OpenSolaris came out > could have selected Linux > a long time ago. They did not and the reason is t

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-01-31 Thread James Carlson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > One particular annoyance of mine being that it is fairly easy to write a > single ps which does both "ps -ef" and "ps uxga". Not only easy to write, but that's the default on other OSes. (AIX had that a decade or more ago. :-<) That's one of the sorts of things that

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-01-31 Thread UNIX admin
> So much of this reminds me of all the BSD-SVR4 > religion of 20 years ago. > SunOS changed then to build something better, and > my view is that's to > fair extent similar to what we're doing with > Indiana. Back then, Sun didn't "change". What was done is that Sun synced up with AT&T's cod

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-01-31 Thread James Carlson
UNIX admin writes: > > Despite assertions to the contrary, Sun does break > > certain > > compatibility from time to time and has guidelines > > for doing so. > > Might you be kind enough to point me to that document, so that I can, uh, > "warm up the chair"? See: http://www.opensolaris.org/o

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] SXCE Build 81 available

2008-01-31 Thread Moritz Willers
Thanks a lot for posting. I find that new technology on the SDLC quite annoying. It used to be possible to copy/paste the URLs from the laptop (non Solaris) to the server (Solaris) and then wget the files straight onto the server where I needed the iso image (I do the Live Upgrade straig

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-01-31 Thread Tim Spriggs
James Carlson wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > >> One particular annoyance of mine being that it is fairly easy to write a >> single ps which does both "ps -ef" and "ps uxga". >> > > Not only easy to write, but that's the default on other OSes. (AIX > had that a decade or more ago. :

[osol-discuss] The impossible SDLC download... / was: Re: [osol-announce] SXCE Build 81 available

2008-01-31 Thread Roland Mainz
Moritz Willers wrote: > On 29 Jan 2008, at 22:59, Derek Cicero wrote: > > Please find the links to SXCE Build 81 at > > > > http://www.opensolaris.org/os/downloads/on/ > > > > /IMPORTANT:/ > > > > The SDLC has changed how the downloads works. > > > > Now you choose the Platform first and t

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] SXCE Build 81 available

2008-01-31 Thread Lars Tunkrans
Its good to perceive that there is a few Power Users left in the world :-) //Lars This message posted from opensolaris.org ___ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-01-31 Thread John Weekley
Tim Spriggs wrote: > James Carlson wrote: > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> >> >>> One particular annoyance of mine being that it is fairly easy to write a >>> single ps which does both "ps -ef" and "ps uxga". >>> >>> >> Not only easy to write, but that's the default on othe

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-01-31 Thread Tim Spriggs
John Weekley wrote: > Someone from Sun told me a few years ago (ca. 2000 or > so) that it cost Sun $17.00 per download, I don't recall how many > successful downloads there were, but about the only money that flowed > was from Sun to it's ISP's. > That is an amazing amount per download. I'm curi

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-01-31 Thread John Weekley
Tim Spriggs wrote: > John Weekley wrote: >> Someone from Sun told me a few years ago (ca. 2000 or >> so) that it cost Sun $17.00 per download, I don't recall how many >> successful downloads there were, but about the only money that flowed >> was from Sun to it's ISP's. >> > That is an amazing a

[osol-discuss] BSD vs SYSV ps (was [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79)

2008-01-31 Thread Ali Bahrami
James Carlson wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: >> One particular annoyance of mine being that it is fairly easy to write a >> single ps which does both "ps -ef" and "ps uxga". > > Not only easy to write, but that's the default on other OSes. (AIX > had that a decade or more ago. :-<) > > Tha

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-01-31 Thread Tim Spriggs
John Weekley wrote: > Tim Spriggs wrote: > >> John Weekley wrote: >> >>> Someone from Sun told me a few years ago (ca. 2000 or >>> so) that it cost Sun $17.00 per download, I don't recall how many >>> successful downloads there were, but about the only money that flowed >>> was from Sun to

[osol-discuss] Configure OpenGrok to index Subversion

2008-01-31 Thread Greco One
I am very new to subversion and opengrok and I need some help in configuring openGrok to index my subversion repository. I have configured Subversion with apache and now I have configured OpenGrok using Tomcat and I have been able to index a directory on my machine and opengrok works great, but

Re: [osol-discuss] [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79

2008-01-31 Thread MC
John Weekley wrote: > Someone from Sun told me a few years ago (ca. 2000 or > so) that it cost Sun $17.00 per download, I don't recall how many > successful downloads there were, but about the only money that flowed > was from Sun to it's ISP's. Bringing that up is FUD IMHO. Internet economics we

Re: [osol-discuss] BSD vs SYSV ps (was [osol-announce] No update on SXCE Build 79)

2008-01-31 Thread Casper . Dik
>Agreed, especially since both ps's are really the same program: > > % ls -ilF /usr/bin/ps /usr/ucb/ps > 198275 -r-xr-xr-x 71 root bin 8164 Jan 27 02:11 /usr/bin/ps* > 198275 -r-xr-xr-x 71 root bin 8164 Jan 27 02:11 /usr/ucb/ps* No, not really. (Both are called thr